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Randall
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posted May 09, 2011 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I owe you an apology. I handled this the wrong way. I should have taken this to you in private. You deserved your say in the matter. How utterly unfair of me to presume anything without asking your side. I am very protective of Charmaine, as any of us are over those whom we love...but that is no excuse. I ask for your forgiveness. And the truly guilty culprits shall pay. I promise you that.

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Randall
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posted May 09, 2011 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Juni, for peacefully guarding the gate and for wielding that flaming sword when you have to.

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juniperb
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posted May 09, 2011 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries

Mischief isn`t kats style and I`m relieved you got to the source.

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted May 09, 2011 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall,

(not that you need my approval)

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katatonic
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posted May 09, 2011 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wwell it looks like this was all over before i even heard about it!
a)i am not in any secret groups
b) i do not wind people up for the fun or vengeance of it
c) i have no axes to grind anyway
d) yes, randall, it would have been nice if you had checked with me first
e) i have NO idea what this is even about!

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Randall
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posted May 09, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, when information comes from different places (especially going first from eyewitness and then to secondary sources), misinformation can be intentionally inserted in the chain. The real mystery is why someone would do that using her name. Even though I never accused her of being up to mischief (only that I heard she was asked to), I should always come to that person in private first. I, of all people, should realize by now that things are not always as they appear to be. Live and learn. I get very defensive about attacks on this site and on people I care about, and I'm certain everyone can identify with that. Still, it is no excuse to lose my cool and jump the gun. For that, I am sorry. It was not the right way to do things.

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charmainec
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posted May 09, 2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed.

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Randall
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posted May 09, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, I didn't see your post before I made mine, Kat. The only reason I can figure this was done is because they thought I would react rashly with banning you. Now, granted, I did jump the gun, and that was wrong, but I didn't do as they thought I would (how could I when you did nothing wrong), so they ultimately failed. Once again, I'm sorry.

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Randall
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posted May 09, 2011 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charmaine:

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katatonic
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posted May 09, 2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well no one has asked me to do anything of the sort and if they did i would tell them where to get off.

i don't know where anyone gets the idea that i am a sheep or even goat but i don't follow herds and i don't do other people's dirty work for them. i am a one woman band.

and i am tired of people talking about the "haters" who supposedly left because they were mean. i DO talk to people i met here elsewhere but the idea that there is some nasty coven or clique is just too ridiculous for words. most people here, including you, randall, and charmaine, talk to folks from here elsewhere too.

just because it sometimes happens that a number of people agree on something or someone doesn't make them a group of harpies, it just makes them people who are agreeing on something, whether you like what they say or not..

and i would like randall to email me and tell me where this started...why am i the last to hear of it?

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charmainec
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posted May 09, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too think Kat's name was delibrately used to stir up trouble.
Whatever the motive was failed.Kat has not bothered me at all in any way.

Randall,it takes alot of character to admit a mistake.Thank you

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charmainec
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posted May 09, 2011 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat,I speak to very few people elsewhere.In fact it has come down to four people,one of which is a relative and another a mentor.I've basically isolated myself from people on other networking sites.Also,I don't really have much time for such.

Edit:by four people I mean four people I speak to on a regular basis.

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charmainec
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posted May 09, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a difference between people agreeing to something and a group of people who are out to hurt for whatever reasons they conceed in their minds.

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juniperb
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posted May 09, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kat, you`re a famous one woman band

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I too think Kat's name was delibrately used to stir up trouble.
Whatever the motive was failed.Kat has not bothered me at all in any way.

That was my hunch.

I`m sure kat will sort it out and the gossip will go the way a mudslide does, downhill til it hits bottom.

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katatonic
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posted May 09, 2011 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well thanks for the support juni.

@charm, i can only repeat that if i have a beef with someone or want to set the record straight, i do it in my own name. i am so NOT the person who can be used in the way suggested here! i learned in my teens, a very long time ago now, that groups often get ugly. usually even then i was on the receiving end, since i am a true 7th houser, one on one is basically my thing...

that "secret group" that you and i were both part of was not designed to wreak vengeance but to vent. it is pretty defunct since it was misconstrued and people's feelings were hurt, by the way.

but LL is a group. there are bound to be some friendships brewed here, nothing wrong with that.

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Randall
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posted May 09, 2011 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is far from defunct. People are still invited to join...and a few of its members have gone to extraordinary measures to attack myself, Charmaine, and this site. That much is irrefutable. But I am glad you are not one of them. Closing this now.

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charmainec
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posted May 09, 2011 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently there are people from that secret group that strike at me whenever there's some crisis in my life even while I was ill.

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