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carl
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posted May 14, 2011 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel deep like the ocean (or deeper), way too much in my opinion. Even when I participate in mental activities like puzzles, or activities and sports like bike riding or basketball, or detach through a dumb movie, there is an underlying sense of feeling.

I need rationality. I need practicality. I need to..not get rid of, but temper these emotions.

They need to be in control, I can not to fall too deeply, especially too quickly and a combo of those two is what I do too much. I am not sure there are enough tender souls who can handle a free wheeling heart like mine with gentleness and care.

How do emotional people protect themselves when all they really want is a deep soul connection and that seems to be the dominating force? Cause 99% of the time, I need to watch out for myself, not to be selfish but to protect myself from being hurt when people don't match my in-depth emotions.

I talked to a colleague a little while ago about some of my..sh!t and he told me to cry. I rarely do, but lately I have tried. I can not. It seems impossible, I guess I am not capable of letting go, but emotions are still there.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 14, 2011 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GREAT question Carl dear
I don't want to give a fast and shallow answer.I want to think about it from my own experience and try to offer some answer that night help

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Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most.


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starfox
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posted May 14, 2011 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Know thyself.

Google for the Myers-Briggs personality type tests.

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LEXX
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posted May 14, 2011 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carl {{{hugs}}}
I totally personally understand.
You should also post this at Sweet Peas.

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pixelpixie
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posted May 14, 2011 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh gosh totally.

I don't know, but I am interested in hearing practical techniques.
Empathy is a wonderful thing.
Try to rationalize when you need to....like project protection if you have to. Lie to yourself if you need to, don't internalize others experiences.
Watch something inspirational, really drink it in. Know those beautiful things are just as real- more real in fact than the *other* things.
Laugh.

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LEXX
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posted May 14, 2011 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
don't internalize others experiences.
I agree but I sure have a very hard time distancing myself.

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pixelpixie
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posted May 15, 2011 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, which is why I wrote it.. I thought of all those things I do that cause me pain, unnecessary pain, I mean.... and that one topped the list. hahaha

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Ami Anne
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posted May 15, 2011 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carl
If there were a quick fix for this sort of thing,I would have had it by now.
I know all the platitudes. I am sure you do ,too.
What is the answer? I really don't know. I am praying for God to heal my co-dependence.
I a praying for God to make me strong and complete in myself,to a degree that I feel peace.
I think there is something in the nature of life that it just doesn't work.
Maybe,that is one of the keys.I know there ARE keys to wisdom.
When/if you find them ,you can have as much peace as the world can offer.
I don't know the keys.I suspect if I knew them,they would be platitudes lol

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pixelpixie
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posted May 15, 2011 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This stuff is definitely cyclical. Some days you feel powerful and able to take on the burdens of others and your own as well. You can carry the weight. Other days, ugh. You're squished.

The ebb and flow.

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Shalimar
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posted May 16, 2011 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shalimar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have any of you ever looked into gemstone healing? I wear a long strand of tourmaline beads to act as a psychic shield, and especially if I'm having to be around people & feeling especially energy absorbant (spongey Pisces moon here.) It might sound hokey, but I've had alot of luck using gemstones for different purposes.

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posted May 16, 2011 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for insideintrovert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Google Empaths or the Highly Sensitive person and do some research. There is a way to manage your feelings/emotions. I seem to suffer from mine from time to time and I just find outlets to do things. I info being emotional, it is easy to be creative in writing, music etc.....The key is to find ways to work with it. There can be some practicality there.

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pire
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posted May 16, 2011 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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tenny22
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posted May 29, 2011 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meditation may provide the feeling over those emotions that you are seeking. Nothing heavy, just easy breathing and centering your thoughts... worth a shot.

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rajji
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posted May 29, 2011 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having a pet will solve all your emotional needs!You'll see how much you can give and yet get back in double measure.
A puppy is all that you need right now to help you out of this emotional crisis.

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pixelpixie
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posted May 29, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tenny22:
Meditation may provide the feeling over those emotions that you are seeking. Nothing heavy, just easy breathing and centering your thoughts... worth a shot.

Meditation That reminded me of this;

Laughter! Here's one. You know how Facebook caters their Ads to what you've said or your interests? I saw, on the right hand side, an AD that pictured a frustrated woman's face that said " Are you Tired of Meditation?" join this (blah blah blah...) haha
it reminded me of a Chris Rock rant on pharmaceutical drugs, basically..."Do your feet hurt? Are you tired? Do you go to bed at night and wake up in the morning?"
hahahahahaha

It struck me as hilarious.

Oh yeah, I'm super tired of meditation!!! hahaha

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mochai
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posted May 30, 2011 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would just try to be with your emotions as much as possible. The more you rationalize the more you distance yourself from the core issue. Sure it's great to look into neuroscience and say this emotion correlates to this type experience, but that's not always enough.

The two things I can think of are meditation or just taking a lot of time to -be- with how you're feeling. Going to crystals which someone else brought up, obsidian or snowflake obsidian or apache tears carried on your left side will bring up whatever is blocking your emotion and keeping you from crying, plain obsidian might make you a little intense emotionally. I used to not be able to cry and I found that to be the hardest thing.

From my perspective in trying to re-learn how to cry, I realize that shutting down emotion can be a safety mechanism, so try to be in a place where you're safe first and have the time to devote to your healing because if you're shut down emotionally like you are, you're obviously wounded. Secondly just accept whatever comes up or comes to the surface in a detached but curious way, kind of like meditation, and be with it as much as possible. Fear and aversion, that desire to even change your emotions carries elements of aversion and fear, which amplify both emotions and pain so they are your enemies here. When subconcious stuff comes to the surface love and accept that and it will disappear or you'll consciously integrate or learn from it.

As far as emotional trauma is concerned, the exact correlate to non-reactance and emotional stability in trying or averse circumstances, where you might get hurt etc or someone hurts you is self compassion. I also think compassion works here similarly. It keeps you centered in the rational prefrontal cortex as opposed to your amygdala hijacking the process and leading on a rollercoaster ride to a damaged hypothalamus (the impact of repeated trauma results in post traumatic stress disorder although I'm sure it's different in a romantic context).

There's a great story that highlights the practical aspects of this. One of the Dalai Lama's doctors who was unable to escape Tibet in time and was captured by the chinese and subsequently tortured for 20+ years of his life. When he escaped neuroscientists went to look at his brain and while they were expecting to see a highly traumatized brain they found a very healthy brain and brain activity that looked as if he had experienced no psychological trauma. When asked if he was ever afraid of anything during his 20 years of being tortured he said that he indeed was afraid, he was afraid he would lose his compassion for the Chinese people. For that reason he never suffered. I know it's hokey, but compassion/love/acceptance is like a panacea of mitigating trauma and is a strength in itself (for emotional resiliency etc).

Unrelated, but there's this thing called the happiness set-point that is the ratio of activity between the left anterior cingulate cortex (acc) and the right anterior cingulate cortex on either side of the medial prefrontal cortex (attention at the center of your prefrontal cortex.. the front of your head). The left anterior cingulate cortex (acc) is responsible for things like courage compassion and recognizing a conflict. Conveniently the left prefrontal cortex is in charge of solving a conflict along with teaching and seeing things from other perspectives. The right acc is in charge of anxiety and insecurity etc. Our happiness setpoint (acc ratio) is largely genetic, but you can change it by exercising the left acc more. The highest happiness setpoint they ever found was in a Buddhist monk affectionately known as the happy geshe doing compassion meditation. Coincidence? I think not. A little unrelated but maybe it will help you. Daniel Siegel talks about aspects of Buddhism also making one more self regulating emotionally where they don't need or aren't as reliant on interpersonal attachments as strongly for emotional regulation and become intrapersonally attuned (his pet word). There is a ton of research in this area.. between science and Buddhism.

So maybe self mastery? I'm not saying you don't have it because I can tell by your posts that you do. Maybe these emotions are trying to teach you something deeper about your self or reality.

Sorry if I stated the obvious or said too much or didn't explain myself well. I have a cold and I'm a little foggy sometimes precluding the on and off mental acuity of kundalini that I deal with.

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Randall
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posted June 05, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I concur with the pet idea.

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Benedict Moon*
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posted June 06, 2011 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This post is scarily apt. What do I do when my senses leave me feeling vulnerable? I put on my Capricorn mask before I leave the house, and none are the wiser. Nobody assumes I have a problem and it still sucks because I seem driven to make a connection that I can rarely ever find. Its like a vicious cycle.

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