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Frozen Queen
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posted January 16, 2012 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You've heard the phrase, "So-and-so is a really nice person," and probably thought nothing of it. In my work, though, I think a lot about what it means to be "really nice" as I see a major distinction between being nice and being genuinely kind.

The way I understand it, kindness emerges from someone who's confident, compassionate and comfortable with themselves. A kind person is loving and giving out of the goodness of their heart.

At the root of extreme niceness, however, are feelings of inadequacy and the need to get approval and validation from others. Overly-nice people try to please so that they can feel good about themselves.

Genuinely kind people are giving because it's in their nature to care, and since they have no ulterior motives, they aren't concerned with whether or not other people like them.

Kind people can be assertive and set good limits. Nice people, on the other hand, bend over backward to be obliging. They deal with potential conflicts by placating the other person because they can't bear to have anyone upset with them.

Kind people have good self-esteem and because they love themselves as much as they care about others, they expect to be treated with respect. Nice people are desperate for approval, so they're often mistreated or taken advantage of.

Nice people tend to do too much for those who don't deserve it and are easy prey for users. They get into co-dependent relationships in which they care-take others in the hopes of eventually being cared for themselves.

This co-dependent interaction, however, is a lose-lose for everyone involved. The nice person fails to get the love and approval they seek, and the person on the receiving end never feels like they're getting enough care. Instead of being grateful, they become resentful toward the pleaser.

Kind people take responsibility for their own self-care. They're generous, even altruistic, but don't get caught up in a user-pleaser type of relationship.

The nice person is careful not to offend anyone and wouldn't dream of expressing a "negative" emotion. They focus on being good to others, to the detriment of their own needs. In fact, they're afraid to ask for what they want for fear of creating conflict.

Nice people stuff down their feelings, not wanting to be a bother to anyone, but the problem with this is that emotions can't be kept down indefinitely. Feelings and needs are meant to be expressed and when they're repressed, they find another outlet.

Being nice, then, has unforeseen consequences: it's painful to seek affirmation but receive contempt. Always holding back needs, feelings and opinions adds to their frustration.

Ultimately, the frustration grows into anger, but showing this anger is unacceptable to someone so invested in always being pleasant. They're compelled to suppress any "bad" feelings.

As the nice person continues to please everyone and the anger simmers underneath the surface, the pressure builds up. At some point emotions begin to leak, in the form of snarky comments, whining, needling, sarcasm, passive-aggressive behaviour or even outbursts of rage.

When a nice person leaks resentment it's usually met with surprise or with more anger, which reinforces their belief that anger should never be expressed.

A vicious circle is created in which the nice person pleases others, becomes resentful, represses and then leaks their anger and then represses their feelings some more. As a result, I believe they'll often get caught up in addictive behaviours which are meant to compensate for their mounting frustration.

I have found that nice people will often turn to starchy, fatty or sugary "comfort foods" to help them to stuff down their anger and soothe their hurt feelings. They'll sometimes abuse alcohol or turn to tranquillizers to anaesthetize their pain. Some will go on spending sprees, trying to buy themselves happiness.

The nice person is overly-invested in the emotional pay-off they're hoping to achieve by pleasing and taking care of others. They're also unwilling to face how much hurt or anger they're carrying. They're resistant to changing their behaviour, despite the consequences of their compensatory addictions.

Kind people are happy people to begin with, and add to their happiness through acts of generosity and altruism. Nice people are needy people who inadvertently create more and more unhappiness for themselves.

The nice person has to understand that their self-worth can never be improved by being a pleaser. They must learn how to validate themselves independently of others, and let go of the co-dependent relationships which foster mutual animosity.

When the overly-nice person can let go of the urge to please, they'll be able to identify their real needs and feelings and begin to take proper care of themselves. They can find happiness in pursuing meaningful activities and relationships instead of giving too much, becoming resentful and developing nasty addictions along the way.


Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/marcia-sirota/too-nice_b_946956.html

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anongrl10
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posted January 16, 2012 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the source of the above quote?

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Frozen Queen
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posted January 16, 2012 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
What's the source of the above quote?

Thanks anon...added!

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RegardesPlatero
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posted January 16, 2012 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Frozen Queen
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posted January 16, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good for you and you're most welcome

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Ask Me anything. Anything. I will contrive to bring you the answer. The whole universe will I use to do this. So be on the lookout. This book is far from My only tool. You may ask a question, then put this book down. But watch. Listen. The words to the next song you hear. The information in the next article you read. The story line of the next movie you watch. The chance utterance of the next person you meet. Or the whisper of the next river, the next ocean, the next breeze that caresses your ear—all these devices are Mine; all these avenues are open to Me. I will speak to you if you will listen. I will come to you if you will invite Me. I will show you then that I have always been there. All ways.

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posted January 16, 2012 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was great Frozen Queen. Thanks!

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LEXX
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posted January 16, 2012 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frozen Queen
Thank you.
It has only been a few years since I realized that distinction.
I still struggle with being nice instead of kind.
It is not always an easy balance.
Nice is fine unless one finds they have become or are becoming a doormat afraid to speak their mind even when observing wrong doing.
Today I was met with negativity for recognizing and speaking out against socially incorrect behavior.
Now I find my "nice" self fearful that I may have made some see me as the enemy.
I find myself having an urge to apologize even though I did nothing wrong.....
just to not be hated by those who condone incorrect behavior.
That I realize is self depreciating and grovelling and unhealthy.
So thank you,
I will try to hold to kind instead of a doormat insecure nice to avoid conflict.

Sigh
cannot please everyone.

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SunChild
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posted January 16, 2012 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sharing this one.

Thanks FQ! I enjoyed that article.

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Frozen Queen
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posted January 16, 2012 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're all welcome. The thing is, when you bend over backwards, people tend to walk all over you. It's just something you see a lot. Here's the thinking: if I can get away with bullsh!t, where's the need for me to make an effort?

My high school had a very beautiful quote on one of the plaques in the corridor. It said:

Be firm, not rigid.
Adjustment is not compromise.
Look at the tree.
It bends with the wind, but does not fall.

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Ask Me anything. Anything. I will contrive to bring you the answer. The whole universe will I use to do this. So be on the lookout. This book is far from My only tool. You may ask a question, then put this book down. But watch. Listen. The words to the next song you hear. The information in the next article you read. The story line of the next movie you watch. The chance utterance of the next person you meet. Or the whisper of the next river, the next ocean, the next breeze that caresses your ear—all these devices are Mine; all these avenues are open to Me. I will speak to you if you will listen. I will come to you if you will invite Me. I will show you then that I have always been there. All ways.

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LEXX
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posted January 16, 2012 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Frozen Queen:
You're all welcome. The thing is, when you bend over backwards, people tend to walk all over you. It's just something you see a lot. Here's the thinking: if I can get away with bullsh!t, where's the need for me to make an effort?

My high school had a very beautiful quote on one of the plaques in the corridor. It said:

Be firm, not rigid.
Adjustment is not compromise.
Look at the tree.
It bends with the wind, but does not fall.


Beautiful!
Much wisdom there!
Yeah,
I have gotten told by so many people, especially guys;
get used to it,
when they are unwilling to meet me 1/2 way or compromise.
It has always been their way or no way.
I am ALWAYS the one expected to adapt but never them.
Well excuse me!
I am tired of giving giving giving, adapting, to please others, never myself.
And I am not talking only about man/woman relationships.
So I have come to the realization;
Bending over backwards makes me unhappy and so does being alone.
However at least alone I do not have to be a slave to the wishes whims and desires of anyone else that do not jive with mine.
Nor be required to be their drudge slave just because I want love and affection.
I get so angry with myself because I am too often afraid to speak up when I am upset or offended or hurt.
Afraid I will be rejected.
Or worse;
fraking patronized and told I am being silly or whatever, especially when the concerns are indeed valid.
So I shut up. Try not to mention my "silly" concerns again.
I must find a way not to be afraid of rejection.
There comes a point where the price is perhaps too high otherwise.

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teasel
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posted January 16, 2012 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. That's why I now make a point of distinguishing between the two. Although someone can also be kind when they feel unsure of themselves, because I've been that way before. I was determined that someone's unkindness towards me, wouldn't drag me down to their level, because I didn't want to hurt anyone. I can't say I live up to it anymore, but it took me thirty-five years of doing the right thing.

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