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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone got in to my e mail account and is sending Links for a home based business,over and over, to people on my e mail list. It is not me. I am really upset. If anyone got anything like that from me, it was not me. I am gonna remedy it, tomorrow, with my computer store.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was getting them from an a person and thought--this is obnoxious. Then I looked and I was sending them to everyone myself
Not me, but some virus. My friend said that a person can get your actual e mail if you open a picture which I do open pictures. Has anyone had experience with this?

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PixieJane
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posted February 23, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there's even the slightest doubt I don't open pix or files, and everyone who knows me knows not to send me any kind of email greeting cards as I delete them without even opening the email itself (let alone the "greeting card").

However, I still got infected once. A clever cracker sent what appeared to be a YouTube digest (I'd say spoofed), and many of the links were to real YT vids. But one of the links uploaded a virus and tried very hard to get my personal info and get me to give a credit card number to fix it (as if). It managed to defeat all antivirus measures I had but I managed to get rid of it by running AVG while in safe mode. Now I'm careful of anything that claims to be from YouTube as well.

Btw, if your computer has any really good components you should check to make sure you still have them after you get it back. Someone I knew had a huge amount of memory to run vids with but after taking it in to get a virus cleaned off he got it back with less than half the memory it had before (because a component had been switched by an unknown comp tech).

It's a shame that trust is such a liability in this society, especially as trust is needed for society to work at all (for example, imagine if you didn't trust people to stop at red lights).

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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Pixie
Could someone have SEEN my password. It was a weirdo so you could not guess it?

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Alma Sun
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posted February 23, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never good to open an email or DL an attachment from an unknown sender.

You gotta be careful with friends as well. Sometimes they get hacked, and send out links to their family and friends.. and that's one way how it spreads. Also be careful what you click from friends on websites like Facebook.

Hope everything gets fixed soon!

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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Alma. At least they did not send out bad pictures from a Christian

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PixieJane
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posted February 23, 2012 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are many ways to get a password, even an unusual one (mine are all weird, too, and so far I think they've worked). There are ways to get at them, even software (such as rainbow tables), and also ways to get around them (for example, a friend showed me how to load a program onto a computer and then load someone else's disk with the same program and already be inside it without having to know the pass codes because you were already in so when you called up "your" info it instead called up the info on the new disk, thus no need for the password). Sniffers can show all your keystrokes (and thus passwords). In your case you probably got a trojan of some sort that basically put your computer or account under someone else's command, but he probably didn't have actual access to your account, just the ability to manipulate it in limited ways.

Still, I don't know all that much about computers, I'm just a drone who has picked up a little here and there. And computer crackers are always getting more sophisticated. If you want to know more about viruses, this looks to sum them up pretty well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging

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Alma Sun
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posted February 23, 2012 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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At least they did not send out bad pictures from a Christian

PixieJane I've been hit with a keylogger before. Years ago. They really suck big time.

Had to reboot to get rid of. It's a pain!

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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Pixie
Ok My feeling is it was in their command but they did not get the password. I saw dear IQ n there and so many e mails to open a Home based business. I am sorry IQ

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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel better Pixie. I think they could just send out this e mail. I did the full scan and it did NOT detect anything. What would that mean. Does anyone know? Thank you all so much for your help. I feel violated !

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Randall
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posted February 23, 2012 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was probably just spoofed. Change your Password, and it will likely stop.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2012 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
It was probably just spoofed. Change your Password, and it will likely stop.


I changed it. Thanks Randall! If you get info from a Home based business, it is not me

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Ami Anne
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posted February 24, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is spoofed, Randall? I opened up a "home based" business thing from someone I knew and then I kept getting all these.

What is "spoofed" exactly, Randall ?

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posted February 24, 2012 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant to mention that to you. My mother had the same thing happen to her last year.

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posted February 24, 2012 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It usually happens if you use the internet from an open (no WAP) internet access point. That can compromise your email address and password.
Always switch to https to safeguard your email login info when you are not using your own ISP.
When it last happened to me, I completely busted the spammers a$$. Haha. I found their IP and location (they were in Mexicon and using a phone!) I just did everything to kick him out. Change your password will do it most of the times but it took several days before the spam emails stopped. I was horrified to see all my professional contacts being sent emails about viagra supposedly from me!
This too shall pass.
Read up on spamming and fishing and spoofing. Knowledge is power.

And never never EVER open a link from an email sent from a stranger. If sent from a known person, email back and ask them what the link is about BEFORE you open it. For this reason, I never bother to open chain letters even though I have a few friends who like to send me loads
People clueless to online piracy and hacking just don't get it how a link can infect your HD to the point of saying bye-bye to your computer a few days later. Also beware of downloading software or anything from spurious websites. If you feel it's off, trust your intuition and stay away. Also do not just fill out forms online; know who is going to use this info and how and be a judge of their safety measures. Personally I rarely use my real names, addresses, etc. on any online forms for this reason.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 24, 2012 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I was darn lucky I sent out info on a home based business

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posted February 24, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does happen, part of this whole online thing.

You just gotta change your passwords from time to time and be careful what you open.

When I get forwards from my mother, I look at the previous participants.

FB apps are horrible as well

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SaggiMC
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posted February 24, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AVG is a great online free resource, but then I was advised to get this one for free from micosoft. Well you can't get a better pedigree...
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/products/security-essentials

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Ami Anne
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posted February 24, 2012 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hippichick:
It does happen, part of this whole online thing.

You just gotta change your passwords from time to time and be careful what you open.

When I get forwards from my mother, I look at the previous participants.

FB apps are horrible as well


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posted February 24, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are lots of ways they can get your Password. And then they have their bots send SPAM with your e-mail address as the sender (spoofing). A Password change is usually all that's required.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 27, 2012 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Randall You had it exactly right.I changed my password. My dear friend was scaring me that they got everywhere with my password but you were right.It stopped when I changed it. I will be VERY careful opening anything now.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 27, 2012 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank God it all stopped. It was very upsetting lol

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posted February 27, 2012 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to give AG the credit on that one. My personal experience was much more serious, so that's all I had to draw from until AG educated me on the more common and simpler problem that can easily be resolved by changing one's Password.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 27, 2012 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I have to give AG the credit on that one. My personal experience was much more serious, so that's all I had to draw from until AG educated me on the more common and simpler problem that can easily be resolved by changing one's Password.


Yes, I suppose one learns by being burned lol

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