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teasel
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posted March 14, 2012 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://jezebel.com/5893244/lawmaker-suggests-beaten-ladies-remember-the-good-times


A thoughtful, sensitive male Wisconsin legislator has proclaimed that he is against divorce under all circumstances — even spousal abuse. And he's got a message to all those ladies out there getting the **** beaten out of them by their husbands: remember the good times, back before things took an abusive turn, and maybe you'll fall in love again. There, isn't that better? Now, chin up, and go back out into that awful marriage of yours like a champ.

The obtuse anti divorce champion is Republican Don Pridemore. And this isn't the first time the Heartless Cheesehead has acted in a manner most unbecoming.

Remember earlier this month when another Wisconsin lawmaker thoughtfully suggested that maybe single parenthood should be considered a factor that may be indicative of child abuse? Pridemore was a co-sponsor of the bill that would've made it a crime for a person to dare try to raise a child on their own outside of the pillowy soft Magic Zone of marriage. But what about women who are being abused by their husbands? Shouldn't they have the option to extract themselves from an unhealthy situation? Nope, says Pridemore. And he's got some expert abused spouse marital advice as well: "If they can refind those reasons and get back to why they got married in the first place it might help."

So, the solution to divorce and spousal abuse is just remembering why you love your abuser? Did he learn about love, relationships, and psychology from tragic early country songs?

In addition to being a ladyhating idiot, Pridemore ignores the fact that men can be victims of physical or emotional abuse as well — and the fact that a poor quality marriage can be a contributing factor to child abuse. Let's get those bitches married, the way God intended! Come hell or high water or emergency room visits or a life lived in a state of utter terror!

Meanwhile Glenn Grothman, the "single parenthood is child abuse" bill's awful asshat of an author, has not only doubled down on the legislation, but he's attempted to out-**** himself by singling women out as the culprits of this non-plural parenthood pandemic. It's the women, you see, who have chosen to raise children by themselves over the course of the last 30 years. And that needs to change right now, by criminalizing single motherhood and legally bullying them into loveless and harmful marriages (and, oddly, penalizing people who dare get married to someone who is fated to die tragically at a young age, leaving them to raise the child or children by themselves).

On behalf of current and former residents of America's Dairyland, I implore State Senators Grothman and Pridemore to stop embarrassing themselves and all Wisconsinites with their nakedly misogynist antics. Statements like these from people who are supposed to be promoting public interest make Bucky Badger cry

Wisconsin GOP to battered women: Don't get divorced [Addicting Info]

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Lexxigramer
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posted March 14, 2012 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What fraking idiots!

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RegardesPlatero
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posted March 15, 2012 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mercuranian
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posted March 15, 2012 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ummm,, what year is it again???...
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posted March 15, 2012 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw this film once called "Idiocracy" and I think it's upon us :/

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posted March 15, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scary how some people's metal processes work. Crazy.

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Betty Boop
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posted March 17, 2012 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked up his chart. He has an exact Mars/Mercury conj in Scorpio at 17 deg. His Sun is in Libra -- marriage above all?

I'm wondering if he just wants to be contentious. I know other Libra/Scorp Merc - types who say things just to be taboo.. and the conjunction to Mars would only add power to his Merc.

If I look beyond his taboo-style of conveying this message - which is difficult.. I think he does have a point.

I mean - if a situation is abusive and harmful - the
person abused should leave that situation asap. I know that it is so difficult to leave sometimes.. but so often there are kids involved as well - and for the sake of everyone - it is the only responsible thing to do - to *leave* and to be in a safe place.

However, after having physically *left* the situation - I would not necessarily doom the relationship.
It depends on the circumstances. I'm sure there are abusive people out there who did get help and were able to turn their lives around. So it is not for anyone to say that the next step is always *divorce*. If something can be achieved through counseling and psychological help.. and if both people are willing to try.. I wouldn't doom things.

BUT this is only -after- the spouse & kids are out of the situation and safe.

I know that many abusive people are just not open to counseling which is another problem. But this is not always the case.

Sometimes when the abuse stems from other issues - like being an alcoholic.. (i.e. maybe the person is only abusive WHEN drinking) - it is still possible that when sober they feel really bad about it and actually WANT to change and *can* change.

So it's not always so clear cut.

Reading what he said... it reminds me of the fact that any long term relationship can go through a rough patch. If you don't know the details and the context, it's difficult to judge. I mean two people could have the best relationship ever and they could be truly in love... but after some of the problems life throws at them, like financial difficulties or illness... they can become addicted to things, they can change... they can become a worse version of themselves.

That does not mean you should *forget* the good times.. and kill-off the person. Not always! Marriage vows are 'in good times and in bad' after all...

So I think this is what he is getting at perhaps.. but it was a very harsh way to say it -- The way he said it sends the wrong message. Because the message to victims of abuse should always be to LEAVE the situation first and foremost.

What I strongly disagree with in his statement is the implication that the abused person could somehow make things work all by themselves... This is NOT true.. They would need help from a professional and the abusive party would have to be willing to change their ways...
This is not a situation where the abused can just continue on living with the abuser. So the fact that Pridemore implies this... is very reproachable.

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tautomer4314
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posted March 17, 2012 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to meet the kinds of individuals who vote for politicians that have mindsets like this. I genuinely don't know anyone like that and the only way I am going to *truly* understand their thought processes is to meet them.

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PixieJane
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posted March 18, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I wanna know is can they still be elected again after doing this?

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