posted April 21, 2012 04:53 AM            

I wouldn't be putting myself "in front" right know.

Just as much as you may want to rebel about a certain issue that is wrong and injust there are people willing to contain your views who will use the same if not more force.

Think of the recent Zimmerman case in Florida, as an example.

posted April 21, 2012 05:02 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm not talking about violence, mooning is all about love and peace man.

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I'm not referring to that at all.

What I'm referring is to the fact that people these days don't act as kindly to each other, there's no point in puting yourself out and in danger.

posted April 21, 2012 05:09 AM            

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Originally posted by SpooL:
I'm not referring to that at all.

What I'm referring is to the fact that people these days don't act as kindly to each other, there's no point in puting yourself out and in danger.

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posted April 21, 2012 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Is there anyway that you rebel against society?what is it? I like to moon people,which I haven't done in awhile I'm ashamed to say.

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Lol. Haven't seen that in awhile, I remember Blink 182 used to do it all the time!

For me personally, rebellion is just about being honest and never apologizing for my preferences or opinions. Just being 100% authentically myself. I don't *try* to rebel or anything. But being 100% straight edge (for instance), never having tried any drugs and always having been immune to peer pressure can almost be a form of rebellion nowadays:-0 just as I imagine abstinence could be when the whole world is having sex.

posted April 21, 2012 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm not talking about violence, mooning is all about love and peace man.

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lol!

posted April 21, 2012 09:11 AM            

Yep

Being immune and being purposely hard headed are different tho.

Being an aquachica myself. I get it.

posted April 21, 2012 12:19 PM            

What an idea? Let's do it! Anything and everything that welcomes the collectivity of the change that's coming. Right now our society and our world are filled with pretty ruthless people. I'm pretty ashamed to call myself a citizen of the Planet Earth. What a disgrace? This world has become something to be appalled by. The people are ruthlessly destroying this planet and each other. Terrified of the changes that are already in place. And unfolding as we speak. Authority figures are repeatedly abusing their authority, in favor of their own desires and self interests. With their insatiable appetites to control people and repress freedom and individualism. Those following these oppressive authoritative mongers will find themselves in a pit of desolation. Having put their faith in something that appeared to be more powerful then the essence of their very beings.

In a time like this, we have to be the change we desperately long to see. We have to dance naked in the streets. Scream "ANARCHY" in a room filled with conservative politicians. Paint hearts and rainbows on the sides of police precinct buildings. Make known to the greater world that we won't sacrifice our individualism anymore! Our authenticity is our very bread and butter. Many sheep perceive individualism as what's dividing our societies, but in actuality on a universal level, our individuality is the essence within ourselves that allows us to unite with one another in pure undiluted love and acceptance.

The people in this world have made me very ashamed. Abusing their authority consistently, finding satisfaction through ridiculing and misusing their power to punish others based on their own ideas of what constitutes ethical behavior. They should be ashamed of themselves for not allowing people the chance to grow and transform into something incredible. For tainted the very light of others through ridicule. They should be ashamed of themselves for not accepting people for who they are. I'm pretty disgusted with people right now. There is never a proper time to rebel against the horrors that have become this world, we've got to challenge them now. This world doesn't cater to eccentrics or visionaries. We've seen it through the history of our civilization. Yet things are changing, at a time no more stirring then now has it been of the utmost importance to embrace who you are. In the end if we stay true to who we are, embracing and accepting one another, we'll achieve something more them simply surviving on this planet. We'll have been able to truly and authentically live.

There's this incredible film called "Nostalghia" directed by Andrei Tarkovsky. There's a speech one of the characters makes that reminds me of what's going on in the world today. And how important it is right now to rebel against society, in the most stirring yet chaotically harmonious way. No one said accepting change was meant to be easy. I've quoted the speech and you can watch the video to get the full effect by looking it up on youtube. It's incredible. I reference this speech when ever I think about how this world at times really is just too much to swallow. The people consistently confound me with insatiably ruthless nature. Attempting to survive in a ruthless world makes surviving necessary, but it makes living seem like a far away utopic dream.

"What ancestor speaks in me? I can't live simultaneously in my head and in my body. That's why I can't be just one person. I can feel within myself countless things at once.

There are no great masters left. That's the real evil of our time. The heart's path is covered in shadow. We must listen to the voices that seem useless in brains full of long sewage pipes of school wall, tarmac and welfare papers. The buzzing of insects must enter. We must fill the eyes and ears of all of us with things that are the beginning of a great dream. Someone must shout that we'll build the pyramids. It doesn't matter if we don't. We must fuel that wish and stretch the corners of the soul like an endless sheet.

If you want the world to go forward, we must hold hands. We must mix the so-called healthy with the so-called sick. You healthy ones! What does your health mean? The eyes of all mankind are looking at the pit into which we are plunging. Freedom is useless if you don't have the courage to look us in the eye, to eat, drink and sleep with us! It's the so-called healthy who have brought the world to the verge of ruin. Man, listen! In you water, fire and then ashes, and the bones in the ashes. The bones and the ashes!

Where am I when I'm not in reality or in my imagination? Here's my new pact: it must be sunny at night and snowy in August. Great things end. Small things endure. Society must become united again instead of so disjointed. Just look at nature and you'll see that life is simple. We must go back to where we were, to the point where we took the wrong turn. We must go back to the main foundations of life without dirtying the water. What kind of world is this if a madman tells you you must be ashamed of yourselves!

O Mother! The air is that light thing that moves around your head and becomes clearer when you laugh." (Domenico's Speech, film Nostalghia) You can watch the whole scene on youtube. I don't want to link it because it's uncensored.

It's a hauntingly moving speech. Even in the 1980s (film release year), people could see the changes that needed to be in order to move forward. The madman (he's called this because that's what we call the truly ingenious in our society, those ahead of their time) does the speech in the middle of a city square, and at the end lights himself on fire. All of the people there just watch him, no one does anything. Only a dog barks uncontrollably at the horrifying sight.

posted April 21, 2012 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
For me personally, rebellion is just about being honest and never apologizing for my preferences or opinions. Just being 100% authentically myself.

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posted April 21, 2012 12:52 PM            

There's always an established order. And those who've created or assisted in it's implementation will try, tooth and nail to keep the establishment as is. Even when the world's falling apart because of it. These kind of authoritative people have their own very twisted intentions invested in keeping the order even at the expense of oppressing others. Those who unquestionably accept the established order, have given themselves over to complete and utter victimization. They've given away their right to freedom and they've given away the very power of their individual identity. The ones who accept the established order, will be forever lost. The ones who do not will be ostracized and ridiculed for their individuality. It's the way of the world. Rebellion in its entirety is the only alternative. We deny who we are on the deepest level when we accept the persecution of trying to survive within these man or woman made established orders.

posted April 21, 2012 05:43 PM            

Aqua

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
I couldn't have said it better. People will go to endless lengths to limit who you are as a person for various reasons including, jealously, personal biases, your beliefs and views and plain hate. However it's of the utmost importance to be who you are, authentically, individually, universally, period, point blank. I'm just letting you know, I respect you Aquacheeka, and I thoroughly enjoy what you have to say on LL. Keep being true to yourself, and thank you for not limiting who you are for anyone.

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posted April 21, 2012 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
About the thread topic... I don't actually mean to rebel.. but in a professional setting I always seem strangely assertive. (I mean - 'strange' from others' perspective.. specially from a male perspective). I often feel like they don't expect it at all.

It's not just things I say or .. anything specific I do.. but my overall demeanour is very assertive. A lot of girls seem somewhat more submissive. (It's probably my cardinal Sun/Mars).
I studied a double degree. Now I'm postgrad. But during one of these degrees and also in one of my postgrad classes... because there are aren't many women in the class.. the ones there seem intimidated.
I have a -voice- and I'm not afraid to use it lol I'm very good at giving presentations as well, which is a bonus. Because even when I am nervous, I can look and sound assertive. The other HUGE myth - is that girls are never funny.. or at least that 'attractive' girls are never funny.
I always try to make things funny, (during presentations as well)... which they SO don't expect. I mean some of the guys there, when I went to a conference on this - were looking at me like I'm an alien from outer space, because they are used to the 'quiet', 'soft spoken' type of girl who is very apologetic about even *being* there. They are also even more surprised that they *like* me. Some of them seem to see the world in black and white... with the intelligent (but unattractive/low-self esteem) girl on the one hand - kind of like Ami in the Big Bang)............. and the attractive (but stupid) girl on the other, kind of like Penny. I've had a lot of guys say things like "you're so different".. or "you amaze me".. which is a good thing since I hope that I amaze and shock them out of their preconceptions. It's almost like a goal for me.

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posted April 21, 2012 11:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
hahahahahaha @ your mooning!

Aqua

Have you ever been to a nudist place/beach?

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posted April 21, 2012 11:18 PM            

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posted April 21, 2012 11:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you really want to rebel? Be a Born Again Christian

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posted April 22, 2012 12:34 AM            

Someone might seem to have an extremely compliant and unquestioning mentality toward the government, medical establishment, schools, churches, ...but still have radical theories about other things, or a nice rebellious streak about some part of whole circus.

Like maybe they don't watch TV or they try to dodge the rules in their housing development or sneak whiskey behind their wife's back. They aren't just living on autopilot.

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I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices. - Mark Twain

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I do like rebels a lot.

posted April 22, 2012 02:22 AM            

I prefer the "big man/woman approach" which is go directly to the person in charge and convince and explain why something should be changed that's my way of rebelling against society.

Failing that the next person, I've seen it so many times were one person may refuse but another person with higher or equal authority overrules the other.

Its just a matter of who you get.

I used to work as an Overnight Night Auditor so I was in a position were I had some authority, I would always push for what I thought was right and made sure those that didn't understood.

No point in walking down the street with flags and with a group of protesters, people will just think less of your group and your cause.