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Topic: Who Is Reincarnating?
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted December 15, 2012 01:17 PM
  
The murder in Conn. has torn the fabric of our beings. How can such evil exist in a human being is on everyone`s mind and tearing at their hearts.
The rash of mass murders in the United States in recent years is proving to be young men in their twenties.
No coincidence so the question is why. Who are these men? Or who were these men? They seem to be of a generational reincarnating to do destruction on the highest unthinkable spiritual level.
My prayers for all the families, past and present, who are suffering from these unthinkable crimes against humanity. 
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charmainec
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posted December 15, 2012 01:56 PM
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PixieJane
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posted December 15, 2012 05:59 PM
The crimes of violence have almost always been done by men under 30. I understand some ancient cultures even sent boys turning into men out to roam and cause trouble among enemies so that their villages would know some peace (and those who survived came back very capable of defending the village without being the local bully). Violence dropped drastically in the 90s and the most likely reason (the one reason that's constant) is that the last of the Boomers passed age 30. That said, psyche meds are known to exacerbate both suicidal and homicidal tendencies. The most dangerous times are when first starting a new psyche med or when going cold turkey off them, either can cause a radical shift in brain chemistry that allow for things like this (or like the mother who drowned her children one by one in the bathtub). A friend of mine said her mom locked herself in her room and demanded her kids stay away while she called 911 and said she was about to kill her kids and the first thing they asked was if she'd just started psyche meds and when she said she did they said that happens sometimes. The vast majority of mass shooters in the USA either just started or stopped psyche meds (or were influenced by those who had, like one of the Columbine boys was mandated to start meds and he was the one who goaded the other to join him in shooting up the school among other behavior changes that happened after the system forced him on drugs), and mass shootings spiked once psyche meds became popular (they'd always happened, but never like it does today). So I don't see this as a reincarnation thing but a very ill advised chemical thing that's inflicted on the killers as well as the rest of us, and if there's karma involved then it's the ignorance and greed of the system as well as the laziness of parents, teachers, etc, who want a quick fix rather than hard work and use a TV, computer, and music (that often glamorize violence, though then the government and public does that, too, so more karma) as a surrogate parent which is playing out here, we're just reaping what we sow. We pay for convenience and quick fixes and others sell it to us, even get the government to mandate it, and glorify violence all the while, so actually I'm surprised it's not worse than it is. IP: Logged |
SunChild
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posted December 15, 2012 08:11 PM
I always wonder the same thing Juni, who are these Souls?
And why?Is it something they repeat, what destiny is playing out and what karmic consequence will inevitably unfold? Many questions of the like- I can only imagine the evilness that exists within them. ------------------
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juniperb
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posted December 16, 2012 05:53 PM
Thank you for your insights  We never will wrap our minds around pure evil; no matter the cause. ------------------
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Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmainec
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posted December 16, 2012 06:10 PM
There was a bomb threat today in the same city in one of the churches holding a vigil. And on the day of the shooting, another plot was foiled in a high school. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 16, 2012 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
There was a bomb threat today in the same city in one of the churches holding a vigil. And on the day of the shooting, another plot was foiled in a high school.
Wow, evil is intensifying as the Bible says, in the last days. Scary times ------------------
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted December 18, 2012 01:41 PM
SunChild, quote:
Is it something they repeat, what destiny is playing out and what karmic consequence will inevitably unfold?
We may never receive the answers but we must never stop asking the question to find a way to break the chain. ------------------
We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted December 18, 2012 03:29 PM
i heard someone on the radio the other night saying the ban on assault weapons (1994-2004) made no significant difference in the carnage rate...and of course columbine shootings were in this period...however the bit below is a summary of what the clinton administration did and how successful it was in reducing violent crime in general.that ban ended in 2004 and as we have seen, the push to cut state spending has resulted in fewer police in many places. the combination of these two things has a lot more to do with these statistics than the "end of days" predictions. however, these lone crazy shooters do not seem to ever go away. thankfully their victims are few, especially when compared with the innocent children and other victims of our war machines and trigger happy police. i doubt whether these crimes will abate until we stop cultivating the mentality that says it is okay for the innocent to die when the cause is "righteous" (as in military actions) and the children are not "ours". Communities struggled to fight rising crime rates.
Between 1989 and 1992, violent crime rates increased by 13 percent. In 1992, there were nearly two million murders, rapes and aggravated assaults reported. Cities including Houston, Boston and New York brought down crime rates with community policing, but most communities lacked the resources to hire and redeploy enough police officers to fight and prevent crime.
100,000 new community police funded along with record investments in local law enforcement. President Clinton fought for and signed a plan to help communities across the country move to community policing by funding the hiring and redeployment of 100,000 new police officers over five years. The Clinton-Gore Administration’s COPS initiative, passed as part of the 1994 Crime Bill, has provided more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies funding to hire or redeploy more than 100,000 police officers. In 2000, President Clinton won over $1 billion to help communities take the next step and hire up to 50,000 more police officers by FY 2005. The federal government has also made record investments helping local authorities fight crime — increasing funding for state and local law enforcement by more than 300 percent since 1993. Overall crime rates has dropped every year under President Clinton and Vice President Gore, the longest continuous drop on record and crime is now at a 26-year low.
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katatonic
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posted December 18, 2012 03:42 PM
as to the reincarnation aspect, perhaps these shooters are returning soon to spend a life in service to the innocent, having slaughtered same on the way out? and perhaps they and their victims will be part of the army of peace for the next generation..IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted December 18, 2012 04:22 PM
EDIT: sorry, I was thinking of the wrong law. There are just SO MANY of them that I get confused sometimes. That said, the reason violence in general went down in the 90s is because the last of the boomer generation passed the age of 30. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted December 18, 2012 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by katatonic:
i doubt whether these crimes will abate until we stop cultivating the mentality that says it is okay for the innocent to die when the cause is "righteous" (as in military actions) and the children are not "ours".
I just wanted to say "thank you" for that. Sometimes I think I'm about the only one who sees that. It would be nice if Obama could shed some tears for the kids killed through his drone program at civilian targets as well. Of course if any nation ever does the same exact thing to us we'd go to war over in a heartbeat...heck, I even think we should if that happened, which is a big reason why I'm so passionately opposed to us doing it to others. It does no good to fight monsters if we become monsters ourselves in the process. IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars
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From: South Carolina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2012 05:46 PM
I found this yesterday on facebook and what you guys are talking about here made me think about it.
 The caption read:
Children are beautiful. Pakistani school children, who live in fear of US drone strikes, light candles for the victims of Sandy Hook. IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars
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From: South Carolina
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posted December 18, 2012 05:48 PM
And my other half wrote this article about it, and I thought it shed a certain light on the topic:
American society is rapidly becoming a place where it's citizens get more and more input with less and less meaning. They can contribute to that sea of interaction, but their contribution is virtually insignificant. In the workplace, in economic status, social status, interpersonal relationships and other aspects there is a decreasing sense of place for any individual. A decreasing sense of legacy, contribution, meaning, standing or significance. A harder time in "making one's mark."
A profound lack of recognition can instill shame, and even allow for public humiliation. I surmise, once they feel innominate (thus rejected) by their peers, collegues, authority figures etc, then a follow-through occurs, restoring justice in what they see as an unjust situation.
Americas government brazenly and jubilantly celebrates the killing of any member of our species if they are considered an interference. The impulse to celebrate death depends on what side you're on, and nothing else. For shooters who aren't severely biologically impaired (i.e. schizophrenic), I sense a common thread. Perhaps they are that tiny fraction who desperately need to be known for something- in fact the more monstrous the atrocity offers insight into their polarized feelings of invisibility, futility and nothingness.
Studies have shown alterations in specific brain regions identified as the Amygdala, the area associated with emotions, fear and aggression, and the orbitolfrontal cortex, the region which deals with decision making, which could explain their offending behaviors. I do not wish to get too tied down with the neural triggers of a particular group of people as it has been proven that the same deficit exists in numerous others who live happy, contented lives- and namely- have never exhibited psychopathic tendencies. Unquestionably, there is a prevailing environmental factor involved, which, seemingly is specific to America!
Yes, there is the undeniable question surrounding gun ownership, but America cannot ever begin to curb mass shootings until it stops the cycle of converging outward displays of ebullience towards it's own acts of violence! Euphorically exalting the death of one man at the expense of 3,280 US casualties is nothing short of abhorrent deception. Critically, the Government needs to fastidiously filter the culture of non-violence down to the citizens of this once great country. The USA is NOT a a peaceful species: Nor are they a peaceful nation.The public celebrations of killings can, in my opinion, easily instil the desire for some 'nobody' who cannot even distinguish between evil, love or hate, dignity and dishonor to grossly eskew the principles of human conduct. Notoriety, however repulsive, was probably the best feeling Adam Lanza had ever experienced. Sure there was no way out- but I'm also sure the chants of USA USA USA went through his head long before he decided to go on his killing spree!
The idea for killing as a public spectacle is the hallmark of an uncivilized society. Obama, as the sitting President has to shoulder the responsibility. Flag waving and anthem singing about someone's death undermines long term security much more than any terrorist or someone suffering from an undiagnosed personality disorder. Lessons must be learned from this grotesque taxonomy. The USA has huge swathes of ingenious and impressionable young people- Controlling of these impulses elevates both individuals and nations above the nihilist' vision of the world!
It seems a long way back for America! Mental Health should've been on the agenda thirty years ago!IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars
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From: South Carolina
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posted December 18, 2012 06:01 PM
My own personal thoughs are so ambivalent at the moment.....like Juni I was thinking who are these souls and why are they incarnating? These children who do not speak and display violent tempers and actions that parents seem to be unable to control, these children appear soulless. I have looked many of them in the eye and cringed at the emptiness I saw...and their presence is uncomfortable for me and their auras are always dreary grey and black swirls.
Many parents are living in fear...consider this article written by one such mother:
http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother I cannot help but wonder if they are part of some End Times plan. In general the world will go from bad to worst with there presence. But on the other hand there must be a hitting of complete rock bottom before there is change. I fear we have not seen the worst...not yet...there must be something to shake the humans on Gaia to their very core if all are to become more heart centered perhaps this is part of it. And lets not forget that book.... that I shall let remain nameless... that speaks of a great tribulation "such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be"..."You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains"
Ugh these thoughts disgust me...And many Christians have decided this is the time we are living in...their consciousness alone could manifest the terrors we shall witness and endure. For the life of me I cannot figure out why they have chose to entertain such horrible thoughts about their neighbors and their Earth...it is beyond me, but what you believe you create.....no book written by men could make me do that in this lifetime....I Re-member the consequences..but like a lamb being lead to a slaughter they follow their god faithfully. Only unconditional love...something not written about in that book ...for ourselves first and then others can turn that ship around and who knows it just might. And I also agree with Sean (my other half as well) we cannot expect any different from a culture that glorifies violence and the death of others. This to me is Karma...and we as a country are paying it back. My thoughts are all over the page on this......the conclusion of the matter will be something all of us can grab some popcorn and sit back and watch...the next 3 years will be momentous. ------------------
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PixieJane
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posted December 18, 2012 08:39 PM
Let's not forget how much more barbaric society was even a mere century ago: extreme racial & religious violence much more common even in the Western nations a mere 20 years ago, for example, and earlier in the 20th century it was an age of death camps, gulags, and mass murder all around the world, even the United States dabbled in such things (btw, there's reason to believe that a University in Connecticut inspired Hitler's genocide), and of course the genocide against Native Americans happened not longer before that (even a hundred years ago politicians displayed a brutal view of American Indians, with Roosevelt even saying once, "I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth" and Woodrow Wilson is said to have endorsed The Birth of the Nation that glorified the values & beliefs of the KKK). So while it looks bad now I can't help but wonder if the worst is already over. Granted, there's still a lot of evil to be purged from our society, and all the other societies as well. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted December 18, 2012 09:28 PM
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