posted December 16, 2012 06:58 PM            

What do you believe is going to happen on 12/21/12?
Your beliefs create your reality.

Those who die or transition from earth create the environment they believe is true before their earth transition. Some believe they belong in a hell-like setting – so they create that. Others that they will be floating on clouds playing harps (But never snare drums or acoustical guitars!). So it will be.

But this state between earth and reality does not last long for most. The newly transitioned soon realize the joy of exploring new areas.

The same is true of what you believe is going to happen on 12/12/12/ or 12/21/12. Perhaps you believe you will ascend to a different plane. Or that those who remain in the third dimension will disappear from earth.

Such beliefs are as limiting as the beliefs of those who expect a boring eternity playing harps.

Maybe you fear you will create your earth transition or death with your current ascension beliefs. Such is not the case. Your higher self will not allow you to transition because of your 3D beliefs. Anymore than the Universes allow you to spend much time floating in the clouds before tapping you for your next exciting adventure.

Or perhaps you disappointed that a parallel earth will not be created, that you will not ascend or that rockets and fireworks will not occur. For many, 12/12/12 and 12/21/12 will not be much different from any other day.

Of course, those of you interested in opening your being to other dimensions, might have indicators that such is happening. Perhaps a buzzing in your head, a headache or similar non-emergency sensations that indicate something is shifting.

Can you imagine the global emotional pain of cutting the earth in two in terms of those who now wish to be part of different dimensions and those who do not? Who determines which entities have enough interest to exist on a different earth? Should such happen the first day of questioning a 3D life? Or the first day one believes in life after death? Or once the entity begins dimension skipping?

Do you see the difficulty in determining who should be “saved” or placed on a new earth and when? Do you understand how such a division would actually delay the development of all that you hope for and believe in? Those with a more scientific bent might be less likely to jump on the New Age/new earth band wagon leaving gaps in your global shift process. Or if only those of like thought were included, no one would question the validity of the experience – or more to the point, add spark to the development process.

Many are somewhat sanctimonious about what is going to happen to believers.

But then, there are divisions even within the so-called believers. Some believe the only path to a new dimension is meditation or a specific diet. Others believe that neither is important. Yet both groups are certain they are the ones who will be saved. Are such thoughts not similar to a 3D religious revival?

The new earth/New Age is freedom. The freedom to progress at a pace and into the life that feels most correct for you. But then, neither is probable for most on earth at this time for you are still forming and shifting your new beings. Granted, you Lightworkers might be a bit advanced in those areas, but what good would your processing and clearing be if you left those not at your stage of development behind?
All are equal.

You advanced Lightworkers merely accepted a different role than those not yet starting to awake. This transition is for all, not just a for the few who believe they know the truth.

Your role is not to move to another earth so you can congratulate yourselves on your abilities and early interest in this transition. But instead, to glory in your new skills and interests so that those who wish to awake to their new earth/New Age roles will have many loving role models to choose from. An extremely important statement for you all.
It does not matter that your inner-being declares meat inappropriate and another does not. It only matters that you are following your inner messages. Not media messages or your friends’ messages. But yours.

Your inner-being is the only guide you need to move into your life of joy. You are not wiser, nor less wise than anyone.

All of you are moving to the same endpoint – love. Most importantly, love for yourself. That is not possible if you believe you are better or not as good as someone else. Merely Old Age thinking.

A wondrous transition is occurring. Your role in this transition is provided to you by your inner-being. A role that is part of a larger tapestry than just those of you who are now interested or part of the New Age/new earth. You are role models, not gurus.
You are wondrous, but so is everyone courageous enough to be on earth at this time or to assist from other dimensions as earth and it’s entities transitions into a new spiritual awakening.

You are loved and talented, as is everyone. There are no class distinctions in this transition. To believe that only some will be part of a new physical earth, is to recreate the class distinctions that made living on earth so uncomfortable.

All who wish to be part of the new earth in this lifetime will be – whether it is before or after 12/21/12. So be it.

Channeled by Brenda Hoffman for www.LifeTapestryCreations.com
Summary of Brenda’s December 9, 2012 free, 15-minute, channeled “Creation Energies” show at www.BlogTalkRadio.com/brenda-hoffman: Before entering earth, you determined the New Age role you wished to play. Whether a media star or a loving neighbor, you will move into that niche with ease. Ignoring that role or trying to jump into another role will prove difficult and lacking in joy.

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posted December 16, 2012 10:11 PM            

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Ive been pondering this for some time based on things I have observed and heard amongst the new age community that seems hell bent on ascension, and religious bible based teachings that things like the rapture and armageddon will get rid of all the "bad" people and leave the good ones

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On a related note are people who think karma is for everyone else (that is, others reap what they sow but they themselves are never reaping what THEY'VE sown)...and an interesting thing I saw some Wiccans do was preach Threefold Law and yet want cast spells to speed karma along (as if they didn't truly believe in Threefold Law), though the more enlightened ones warned them that invoking Justice (as a divine/magical force) was a dangerous act because Justice (in whatever form) had a habit of smiting the accuser along with (or even instead of) the accused. Or as illustrated in Angel...

"What I deserve is open to debate. But understand, there's a difference between wishing vengeance on someone, and taking it. So now the question becomes, what do you deserve?"

posted December 16, 2012 10:55 PM            

I have read many different pyramids of thought, such as Shekinah Rose, Melchizedek, David Wilcock, Braden, Nick Goode and the superhero crew, McKenna, many others who a very sure of what will happen, or may happen, first I layed out what was in common, then a separate column for the differences, then I compared all of it to scientific data on the alignment and made a picture. There is something happening, thats for sure, the vertical alignment with the pyramids, the precession of the equinox, age of Aquarius, solar activity, mayan calendar (yes i heard the actual mayan interpretation) and my own inner Soul activity, what I ended up with was a whole lot of interesting data- all I can do is tune into the energy surrounding this data and see what I feel from that and contribute to as much good on the planet as I can, regardless of what time we are in.

My message would be to pay close attention, assume nothing, believe none, observe and perceive with an open mind, expect more from yourself and watch how this affects others. The energy is amped up- feel how sensitive to it all you are now, notice it, this is a collective result of your intention and the global intention, there is more good than bad, turn off the media, (we ended our TV).

I have loads more thought but what it comes down to is my own soul activity so sharing it would be going too far, it's not quite ripe for sharing if you know what I mean, however, today is the day.

Thank you for your timely message ORBM!!!

posted December 16, 2012 10:59 PM            

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I'm tuning into this process with an open mind. A zen mind, just perceiving.

I have read many different pyramids of thought, such as Shekinah Rose, Melchizedek, David Wilcock, Braden, Nick Goode and the superhero crew, McKenna, many others who are very sure of what will happen, or may happen, first I layed out what was in common, then a separate column for the differences, then I compared all of it to scientific data on the alignment and made a picture. There is something happening, thats for sure, the vertical alignment with the pyramids, the precession of the equinox, age of Aquarius, solar activity, mayan calendar (yes i heard the actual mayan interpretation) and my own inner Soul activity, what I ended up with was a whole lot of interesting data- all I can do is tune into the energy surrounding this data and see what I feel from that and contribute to as much good on the planet as I can, regardless of what time we are in.

My message would be to pay close attention, assume nothing, believe none, observe and perceive with an open mind, expect more from yourself and watch how this affects others. The energy is amped up- feel how sensitive to it all you are now, notice it, this is a collective result of your intention and the global intention, there is more good than bad, turn off the media, (we ended our TV).

I have loads more thought but what it comes down to is my own soul activity so sharing it would be going too far, it's not quite ripe for sharing if you know what I mean, however, today is the day.

Thank you for your timely message ORBM!!!

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posted December 17, 2012 12:20 AM            

I totally agree with you hon...race and religion divide us now...but not for long. Over the next 3 years we will begin to see a breakdown in the barriers that divide us...we have finished a 26,000 year cycle through the zodiac!.. we have learned so much and acquired so many new talents. As I type I have this vision in my third eye of standing at a door that is slowly opening on the Age of Aquarius.

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posted December 17, 2012 12:54 AM            

"I'm tuning into this process with an open mind. A zen mind, just perceiving.
I have read many different pyramids of thought, such as Shekinah Rose, Melchizedek, David Wilcock, Braden, Nick Goode and the superhero crew, McKenna, many others who a very sure of what will happen, or may happen, first I layed out what was in common, then a separate column for the differences, then I compared all of it to scientific data on the alignment and made a picture. There is something happening, thats for sure, the vertical alignment with the pyramids, the precession of the equinox, age of Aquarius, solar activity, mayan calendar (yes i heard the actual mayan interpretation) and my own inner Soul activity, what I ended up with was a whole lot of interesting data- all I can do is tune into the energy surrounding this data and see what I feel from that and contribute to as much good on the planet as I can, regardless of what time we are in.

My message would be to pay close attention, assume nothing, believe none, observe and perceive with an open mind, expect more from yourself and watch how this affects others. The energy is amped up- feel how sensitive to it all you are now, notice it, this is a collective result of your intention and the global intention, there is more good than bad, turn off the media, (we ended our TV).

I have loads more thought but what it comes down to is my own soul activity so sharing it would be going too far, it's not quite ripe for sharing if you know what I mean, however, today is the day."

Your words have such power to them. You bring to mind an old tree....with roots so deep that they anchor into the center of Gaia...you are conducting a huge amount of Energy...your soul is vast and your wisdom profound.
I to have been on a similiar path to you with my esoteric research, astral travels and indepth studies of channelings. And I have come to no conclusions as well, my mind and heart are open to the flow of the Universe.

Well maybe 3:

*The past happened just as it should and I have no regrets, I would not change a single thing in hindsight.
*The present requires me to stay in the moment and remain heart centered and everything happening is just as I choose it to be. I created this reality and I love it.
*The future will be exactly as I chose it to happen and it cannot happen any other way.

And the string that ties them all together for me is acceptance and self love. Ive never felt so alive in all of my lives on Gaia..it finally feels right...if that makes sense...nor have I ever been so happy. I could truly be done with this life now, I feel that fulfilled.

Excellent message..."assume noting, believe none, observe and percieve with an open mind"

You know I havent owned a television since I was 18...go figure..I still dont know why I stopped watching it...it happened in college...I just didnt have time to watch it and eventually was like ok...well I dont really need it then and I gave it to my brother in law for his "man cave", lol.

We must compare notes over the next 3 years! I can feel your souls resonance with mine.

posted December 17, 2012 07:22 PM            

Based on the precise title and opening paragraph

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Ive been pondering this for some time based on things I have observed and heard amongst the new age community that seems hell bent on ascension, and religious bible based teachings like the rapture and armageddon that will supposedly get rid of all the "bad" people and leave the good ones.

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There are two schools of thought on this.

If Spiritual Transcention or a fundalmentalist Rapture were to occur, would the spiritually aware who fall short of their awareness be saved or those who are ignorant of Spiritual laws be saved... or is there only salvation of the Spiritually Aware that live to the highest order of good ?

It gets muddy at best.

The notion that one or the other is going to occur is damaging and divisive at best. Another nail in the coffen of humanity.

Manmade ideas that are put onto the psyche to raise one soul above another. Simply another ladder to put on anothers shoulders to make them feel taller.

I do have faith we are progressing and reaching for the highest good. We all will arrive at our individual highest attainment.

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You advanced Lightworkers merely accepted a different role than those not yet starting to awake. This transition is for all, not just a for the few who believe they know the truth.

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Amen!

posted December 17, 2012 08:07 PM            

"The notion that one or the other is going to occur is damaging and divisive at best. Another nail in the coffen of humanity.

Manmade ideas that are put onto the psyche to raise one soul above another. Simply another ladder to put on anothers shoulders to make them feel taller.

I do have faith we are progressing and reaching for the highest good. We all will arrive at our individual highest attainment."

posted December 17, 2012 11:00 PM            

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Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.

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posted December 18, 2012 10:16 AM            

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Those who die or transition from earth create the environment they believe is true before their earth transition. Some believe they belong in a hell-like setting – so they create that. Others that they will be floating on clouds playing harps (But never snare drums or acoustical guitars!). So it will be.

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Creating our own reality...

Indeed. My beloved Pentecostal Grandmother envisioned a heaven where one would still cultivate their soul... she said God would provide her with a hoe for her heavenly garden to keep working as no drifting harp playing boring cloud for her

I believe she had the most beautiful flowers there.

posted December 18, 2012 12:47 PM            

Afraid I don't have any words of wisdom to share.

But as to the original question of who should be "saved" on 12-21-12, I had one tiny thought ...

Maybe it should be the ones, like myself, who've made so many mistakes that they haven't had enough time to correct them.

And the ones who, also like myself, still haven't made all their mistakes but know they're going to need time to make them, followed by even more time to correct them.

I think both groups should be saved as they haven't had enough time? <--- *sheepish*

Other than that I just wanted to say Hi ORBM, great thread!

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

posted December 18, 2012 05:20 PM            

@Charmaine....hey boo! XO

posted December 18, 2012 09:31 PM            

When they wake up and find they have not achieved Nirvana,be as pure as Angles or be wise as Buddha, their minds and hearts may break.

They will need the compassion and support from their friends and family.May we guide them through their sorrow and aid them in balancing life as it is, not wished on or feared.

Each day is a gift and may we live it to the fullest and highest Purpose.

posted December 21, 2012 01:34 PM            

They will need the compassion and support from their friends and family.May we guide them through their sorrow and aid them in balancing life as it is, not wished on or feared.

Each day is a gift and may we live it to the fullest and highest Purpose."

posted December 21, 2012 02:17 PM            

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@Linda Jones...somehow I can't see you making a single mistake pretty lady. XO

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Thank you, kind Sir. *dips in curtsy*

I guess we made it through another doomsday prophesy. The human race continues!

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

posted December 21, 2012 04:05 PM            

As I see it, there is a window open for incredible change, and what is in the heart of each person during this window will gain very swift momentum and power. It is a good thing.

posted December 22, 2012 09:54 AM            

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Me too...but mine comes from a deep place because I have walked in their shoes, and spent my life in fear of every "sin" I commited......the main motivator behind those beliefs I believe is fear.

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I did as well D. I was raised (mom`s side) a Pentecostal Christian.

I as hoping as 12-21-12 has slipped by, the doomsdayers/rapturites may breath, relax and see the beauty in the moment.

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it's harder to examine the negative on the inside that created the negative on the outside.

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Indeed! When we see how badly they are acting on the outside, we can then see how poorly they feel on the inside. Compassion then becomes their unrecognised gift from the seeker..