Lindaland
  Lindaland Central 2.0
  Celebrating 'Martin Luther King Jr' Day!

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Celebrating 'Martin Luther King Jr' Day!
mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 457
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted January 21, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, Martin Luther King Jr dreamed the Dream for people of ALL Colors... in all the civilizations around the World!

Praying that we all come to see it, together!

I Have a Dream Speech, Martin Luther King's Address at 'March on Washington'
August 28, 1963. Washington, D.C.

(video)[18:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs

...we shall overcome some day

quotes...
We've only just begun... 1963 was not an end but a beginning.
May we all find our rightful places on this earth...
Fight with all your soul for Peace!

MAY VOICES OF FREEDOM RING, ALL AROUND THE WORLD!

(BTW: I have a color, too... My color is white! I am 'included'...)

IP: Logged

T
Knowflake

Posts: 7756
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted January 21, 2013 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The old law of an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding. It seeks to annihilate rather than to convert.

Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys community and makes brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in monologue rather than dialogue.

Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers."

------

"I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, quality and freedom for their spirit. I believe that what self-centered men have torn down, other-centered men can build up."

------


"A religion true to its nature must also be concerned about man's social conditions....Any religion that professes to be concerned with the souls of men and is not concerned with the slums that damn them, the economic conditions that strangle them, and the social conditions that cripple them is a dry-as-dust religion.

Such a religion is the kind the Marxists like to see---an opiate of the people."

----


"When evil men plot, good men must plan. When evil men burn and bomb, good men must build and bind. When evil men shout ugly words of hatred, good men must commit themselves to the glories of love.

Where evil men would seek to perpetuate an unjust status quo, good men must seek to bring into being a real order of justice."

----

"Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend."

IP: Logged

mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 457
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted January 21, 2013 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Day for the United States Today!

The Second Inauguration of President Barack Obama January 20/21, 2013... What a miracle for my eyes to behold!

Makes me weep... I was a little school-girl when my father, a soldier in the U.S. National Guards, had to go into town to help stop the violence and racial riots only a few miles away from where we lived.

This was so frightening to me... something I've held in my heart my whole life long.

I just DON'T understand why people think PIGMENT is a reason to think others are 'less than' human ... that they would have a less valid reason to be alive, and happy, and to be "allowed" to be my friend.

May we pray that a better world come for all of us--


IP: Logged

mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 457
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted January 21, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks T
------------------------
EDIT 1-22-1013 11:14am

add PROCLAMATION http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/18/presidential-proclamation-martin-luther-king-jr-federal-holiday-2013

(clip) Martin Luther King Jr. We Shall Over Come [4:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJoWrLQWrEc

Diana Ross, We Shall Overcome (Budapest,1996) [5:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnzmPrsLXn8
----------------

IP: Logged

7thGuardian
Knowflake

Posts: 597
From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012

posted January 22, 2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did, by watching the movie "Django Unchained"

------------------

[☼ ► ♊ ... ☾ ► ♈ ... Ⓐsc. ► ♋]

New Skins/Themes for Linda-Goodman forum

IP: Logged

mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 457
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted January 22, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
I did, by watching the movie "Django Unchained"

(I sure hope you're not being mean ...?)

I think the film shows the despicable use of human beings! I hate what this movie depicts...

"The D is Silent..."

I hope that people will NO LONGER be silent when it comes to the horrors inflicted on other human beings! That includes ALL mistreatment... including rape!

And with all the talk about 'abortions' (incest /or not) on the news today, I hope they make stronger cases for going after the S'UCKER who RAPED his precious vulnerable daughter, instead of shaming the victim!

Women and ALL people deserve to be SAFE!! We need to protect ALL those vulnerable citizens, and go after the perpetrators instead!!

Why don't we hear the churches going after all the fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins, and neighbors RESPONSIBLE for the HARMS they incur??--- physical AND psychological. Why aren't they speaking up for the VICTIM and SURVIVORS?


The psychological effects of RACISM, Bullying and ABUSE .... can linger for a lifetime, and end up in a suicide!

SHAME on the churches and "religious" legislators who just do NOT "realize" the harm they DO to the victim! ---They need to start right where they live..."in the home"....!!

(sheesh! whataday... )

IP: Logged

7thGuardian
Knowflake

Posts: 597
From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012

posted January 22, 2013 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
(I sure hope you're not being mean ...?)

I think the film shows the despicable use of human beings! I hate what this movie depicts...

...


No! I'm not being mean... now, you either didn't watch the movie or didn't understand it... since in a way - it's related to Martin Luther King and the injustice againts black people from that specific time - "a payback on their suppressors" same as Inglourious Basterds... was about "Jews taking revenge on Nazi". It's a Tarantino movie, you either like it or you don't... or didn't understand it (some people see only the violence and get to disgusted to try to understand what the movie is really about) - tho, it's more about the message... not about black people taking revenge on white people, same as Inglourious Basterds wasn't about Jews taking revenged on Germans... It "WAS A MOVIE" meant to look UNREALISTIC - so you'd know it's a movie and wouldn't take it as a reconstruction of real events... even tho it's based on a historical event - this movie was just a fantasy... meant to mock - the "evilness" of such people who treated other human beings... in a way that even animals don't deserve to be treated...

IP: Logged

PixieJane
Knowflake

Posts: 1552
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010

posted January 22, 2013 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Making rape explicit (even if it's "off screen" so that it's only heard) isn't going to be everyone cup of tea. It creates a trigger. I know I won't ever watch it.

Some really enjoy Tarantino. Others just find themselves either disgusted, or even in an adrenaline-soaked rage over it, so YMMV.

Comparing slavery to what MLK was tackling does sound to me like apples & oranges, however (even if one led to the other). Oh, and just to nitpick, whites didn't laugh at the idea of slave revolts back then, they were quite terrified by the Haitian Revolution and took steps to prevent something similar in the USA, including prohibiting guns to free blacks in such states where slavery existed, and culminated in the SCOTUS decision delivered in the Dred Scott Decision, essentially barring even free blacks across the nation from freedom of assembly and freedom to bear arms as they feared what happened in Haiti happening in the USA. Heck, that fear lingers (passed down generation to generation) to this day so that plenty of white boomers can't shake the fear that blacks (even Obama) will kill them all if given the chance, though I think it becomes less every generation.

IP: Logged

7thGuardian
Knowflake

Posts: 597
From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012

posted January 23, 2013 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Making rape explicit (even if it's "off screen" so that it's only heard) isn't going to be everyone cup of tea. It creates a trigger. I know I won't ever watch it.

True, explicit rape scenes can create triggers for certain persons... sorry to hear that. Even tho I'm a male, i feel a lot of disgust for such scenes - but also a sense of hate... hate against oppression of the weak - bullying, abusive parents, abusive governments (hard to believe, that even this days - North Korea citizens are dealing with that type of government and not the only one...) - and let's not forget governments who abuse their influence and military power - U.S.A. being in top of the list from this point of view... i have nothing against U.S.A. citizens - but your leaders are true oppressors... and I'm not talking about governors or your president/s(ex) - those are just puppets (every country has its own) - but the real oppressors... the ones that control the major corporation and the worldwide industry... tho - this is another story - for a different topic...so i leave it that...

...by the way - there are no explicit rape scenes in Django - yet, there are some cruel scenes - one of them being more explicit (where they set the dogs on a slave - and his guts come out...) which was disturbing - the rest is "artistic" for most part - exaggerated "intentionally"... to much fake blood as if people's body parts are filled with blood for most part and very little tissue - just bones, blood and skin.

I'm European but i live in a side of Europe (Romania) where black people are very rare and same goes for Asians - if you can believe that... well - not entirely, cause we do have Indian descendents (the ones you might know as Gipsy)... and they are the black people of Europe in terms of racism - not sure how things are in U.S. right now, but most major countries of Europe - don't have any problem with being black (no differential treatment from this point of view) - yet, if you're a gipsy - you might see the disgust in some people's eyes... and that's saying to little... I'm not a Gipsy, but i am Romanian and even tho gipsies are a small minority among Romanians - because of their criminal deeds (mostly thievery and begging), they got a lot of negative attention in neighbor countries like France and Italy - countries who are filled with ignorant people that see Romania as a 3'rd world country - where gipsies and Romanians are suppose to be the same... Can't talk in the name of all Italians and France people... since i had the pleasure of meeting educated and open minded people even from there but - there a lot of France people who treat Romanians with racism - they see themselves more evolved and "feel dirty" talking to Romanians... even tho - we might have the same skin color (if that was an issue in the past), or they could be even black and treat us with racism... which is quite amusing - cause their racism in based entirely on ignorance and a aryan sense of pride... That being said - I'm not black, tho i understand racism in a way only certain black people of today could.

------------------

[☼ ► ♊ ... ☾ ► ♈ ... Ⓐsc. ► ♋]

New Skins/Themes for Linda-Goodman forum

IP: Logged

PixieJane
Knowflake

Posts: 1552
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010

posted January 23, 2013 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
there are no explicit rape scenes in Django

Maybe. That preview came closer to explicit than I liked and I'd have thought it crosses the line in the movie, especially one by Tarantino.

I know a guy who didn't think the 2003 Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn't that frightening or upsetting, and even considered it a bit of a dark comedy for some reason, so I recognize YMMV.

quote:
Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
they are the black people of Europe in terms of racism - not sure how things are in U.S. right now, but most major countries of Europe - don't have any problem with being black (no differential treatment from this point of view) - yet, if you're a gipsy - you might see the disgust in some people's eyes... and that's saying to little... I'm not a Gipsy, but i am Romanian and even tho gipsies are a small minority among Romanians - because of their criminal deeds (mostly thievery and begging), they got a lot of negative attention in neighbor countries like France and Italy - countries who are filled with ignorant people that see Romania as a 3'rd world country - where gipsies and Romanians are suppose to be the same... Can't talk in the name of all Italians and France people... since i had the pleasure of meeting educated and open minded people even from there but - there a lot of France people who treat Romanians with racism - they see themselves more evolved and "feel dirty" talking to Romanians... even tho - we might have the same skin color (if that was an issue in the past), or they could be even black and treat us with racism... which is quite amusing - cause their racism in based entirely on ignorance and a aryan sense of pride... That being said - I'm not black, tho i understand racism in a way only certain black people of today could

Going by what I've read & heard from Europeans, they do dislike gypsies a lot more, I think for somewhat similar reasons as blacks in the USA (more of them, the wounds are still fresh, culture, and more).

I do think it's better to be black in Europe than the USA, but I have heard that some do have trouble, such as in Germany (but our Colin Powell did say it was better than America while he was stationed there).

I think slavery being done away with in Europe much sooner helped, as did massive social reforms. Here in the USA the slave states (including those that didn't join the Confederacy) developed such racial animosities (which would spread through the rest of the nation, especially when many defeated Confederates fled West to escape Yankee carpetbaggers and in many migrations during the Great Depression), and both black & white peoples became a vague race (that is, in general, whites are no longer divided by Scandinavian or Celtic or even Swedish or Scottish for the most part while the ancestry & ethnic divisions of blacks brought here were brutally crushed, which backfired by creating a unified black culture in the USA which some people still feel threatened by to this day), so I think it's stronger here as the black community is seen as bigger & powerful than in Europe, the wounds are fresher than in Europe, and they've achieved political clout which threatens an ingrained sense of entitlement on top of the racial fears that have been passed down through the last few generations (it's not just whites who egg it on, btw). It's complicated to explain as most of it (but not all) is more subtle than overt (even most white racists would never burn a cross and consider the KKK to be losers) but it's going to be many years, if not generations, before that fully goes away.

I know it's a small observation but back when Hanna Montana was big (practically the Beatles for tween girls) it was almost exclusively white girls here in the USA (I did see a black boy in one vid but he really stood out), but footage from London concerts showed kids the same age as in the USA but included a surprising number of boys and also crossed racial lines so there were plenty of black mixed in with white (and other) which made me realize it's much more racially integrated than over here (what I've experienced of British hip hop also made me think this), though it's obviously not perfectly so given the BNP, and ironically I suspect a TV show there wouldn't be allowed in the USA for making fun of blacks so much (though he gets away with it by claiming to be making fun of whites acting black, not that I believe him), though I don't know how popular it is (while British comedy normally isn't my thing I do think it was higher class than that show).

Oh, and btw, I believe France has strong Catholic leanings, and the Western Christian countries (ESPECIALLY Catholic-oriented who see the Eastern Orthodox as ancient betrayers, and they believe the Eastern Orthodox split from their church rather than the other way around or it being a mutual split) tend to look down on the Eastern Orthodox countries (even those that had been controlled by Communists for a time), or so it seems to me. That may be yet another (subtle) reason why the French & Italians don't like Romanians.

IP: Logged

7thGuardian
Knowflake

Posts: 597
From: Transylvania
Registered: May 2012

posted January 23, 2013 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. It has nothing to do with religion... as you may have heard - or maybe haven't... many french people are not so fond of learning a secondary language - especially English (to much patriotism) - many live with the idea that - it's not they who should learn English - but the rest of the world should learn french... "some (can't speak in the name of all french people)" see themselves as superior human being just for being born in french... They're not so fond of Americans either... tho, they don't have a problem with Canadians, at least those from regions like Quebec or Ontario where most can speak french...

------------------

[☼ ► ♊ ... ☾ ► ♈ ... Ⓐsc. ► ♋]

New Skins/Themes for Linda-Goodman forum

IP: Logged

mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 457
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted January 23, 2013 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Appreciate all these thoughtful responses about real issues facing our world today. Certainly isn't just confined to one country. We are individuals in one sense, yet part of a global community. The issues need to be examined on worldwide scale for humanity's sake. I'm sooo glad to be part of a website where we can meet and discuss like this!

PixieJane, thanks for your insights and urls for further study. Amazing.

7thGuardian, I wasn't sure of 'who' you are... There's a social 'vampire' entertainment culture here. Didn't know if you meant the Country of Transylvania, or the entertainment cult.

Also wasn't sure if you were trying to "make fun of" (mock) the problems of human slavery, or be perhaps one of the white people who think they are superior. PIGMENT is just pigment!! Blacks are not superior... whites are not superior... It's just all PIGMENTS (of their imaginations )


Yes, I did watch the whole 'Django Unchained' trailer. On one hand I DO have a GREAT BIG sense of humor... quite outrageous. Thanks for clarifying what YOU meant... I enjoyed 'Inglorious Basterds' VERY much...

I guess one reason I felt so triggered by the sorts of violence depicted on Django was that I remember seeing the 1975 Movie 'Mandingo'... The final scene still haunts me. What a horrible ending!

And since childhood I'd been bothered by what happened to Joan of Arc... (the Ingrid Bergman movie).

(clip)Joan of Arc [3:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP0RWfGVayI


There are prices to pay for following what's 'good' and fighting what is evil... It's just that with the good--- they die so young!


Abraham, Martin And John Tribute [2:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYscCNWRiY


IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 24868
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009

posted January 24, 2013 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

------------------
"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz

IP: Logged

libraschoice77
Knowflake

Posts: 603
From: NYC
Registered: Aug 2010

posted January 24, 2013 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:

There are prices to pay for following what's 'good' and fighting what is evil... It's just that with the good--- they die so young!


Abraham, Martin And John Tribute [2:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYscCNWRiY



This is so true

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2013

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a