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libraschoice77
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posted March 26, 2013 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw this article and thought it was ridiculous, I wouldn't pay it would you?


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/store-charges-customers-5-just-234300072.html

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T
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posted March 26, 2013 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope!

It's a store, not a zoo.

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AcousticGod
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posted March 26, 2013 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's an interesting experiment.

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juniperb
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posted March 26, 2013 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes AG, interesting but not for me. I am too frugal to even think of wasting $5 on a whim of window shopping.

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posted March 27, 2013 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That gripes me! Many times I'll look around, then come back later to buy. I would not support stores that charged, even if they gave "coupons"... Some of the clothes catalogs started doing that... (like JCP). I stopped buying from them.

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SpooL
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posted March 27, 2013 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpooL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Yes AG, interesting but not for me. I am too frugal to even think of wasting $5 on a whim of window shopping.


I agree, especially in this economic time frame we are in.

I would have assumed they would offer some unique promotion.

If the owners think that this is a great idea
Its no wonder that the store in the article is close to going out of business.

Makes you wonder what if any other decisions they might have made.
Poor management = poor decisions.

Unless the store in the article is a boutique or has products that you can't find anywhere else in Brisbane.

I can just see people taking there business to the nearest competitor, the sign is an easy turn off.

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libraschoice77
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posted March 29, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice to see you around AG! The comment that had me really laughing was someone said another business near by them will probably post a sign saying "We don't charge $5 to look like the dummies down the street"

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posted March 29, 2013 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

I get all of your comments, but I also understand their impulse. I went and read the article before commenting further. Interesting that it's a food store.

Anyway, most companies would like to obtain money from everyone visiting. If you're going to shop there anyway, then the $5 won't make any difference to you, because you won't be charged it, right? That means the knee-jerk reaction is really not rooted in anything other than a perceived slight. The real problem would be that no new people would pay $5 for the opportunity to see if they were interested in shopping there. That's the killer in this equation. But if they have a regular constituency that they can count on, this is actually a service. It removes the clutter of people that are just looking. It's a good way to clear the aisles of loitering teenagers.

When I was in my early twenties I had a similar idea when thinking about a coffee shop I wanted to open. People would pay for access, but would be given a coupon redeemable for the admission amount. It would simply ensure that people were there for business rather than hanging out. Seeing the modern Starbucks, however, perhaps the accommodation granted towards loitering is helpful for the business.

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posted March 29, 2013 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AcousticGod... I STILL very strongly disagree with that kind of 'thinking'...!

I think some unaware people look to "start their own businesses" without knowing and realizing the intense commitment and overwhelming amount of hours of "work" involved--! They are sitting-ducks for predatory corporate vendors, dazzled by newbie thoughts of easy flying golden $$$ in their dreams and imaginations. They concentrate on thinking about how "rich" their gonna become.

Some unknowing new-business dreamers take freaky-scary risks... 'Counting chickens before they hatch', they are seduced by trickery and lusts into signing legally binding contracts for corporate services, insurances, and security on those 'imaginary hatchlings'!-- while using REAL DOLLARS!!

This is a HUGE mistake that I've watched a few loved-ones make, in the past! (Heart-breaking, and nerve-wracking to be too attached and care so much! People need to learn through mistakes... geez, some lessons can be soooo painful, though!)

'Having your own business' has all the full responsibility and reality of 'adopting or fostering a child', or even having your own natural child. You've gotta be prepared... It takes planning, and commitment to 'no-matter-what'! It IS and BECOMES your every-day energy expender and focus in life! If people that start businesses are NOT "ready" for that level of commitment, then they are 'unqualified' and don't know it! --- scary! These are the ones easily led astray by predatory sharks...

AcouticGod, you are in a way suggesting that we "pay" for some bad business mistakes on their parts! Now, that's okay if it's just one or two doing that... Afterall, we want to "support" our friends and loved ones who want to 'try it out'--- but in TODAY's world stealing has become a trend!!!

When only a few are stealing cookies from the big cookie jar, we adapt... but if an over-proportion of business-owners do it, then it demands our notice and attention! HEY!!? 'Who' took the cookie from the cookie jar? *smiling*

Seems that scared-people have 'dollar-stars' in their dreamy eyes... They have been 'frightened' emotionally into "doing something" about their status of non-employment? They are coming from a place of feeling like they don't want to be "labelled" by society as a "taker" so they make the plunge into "business"-- the so-called American Dream. When it's NOT in your bones and calling to BE a business owner, and you 'fall for the fear-factor' to start one, you put yourself in a jeopardizing position, (just so you can 'look' like you're 'successful' and you're not a 'lazy' person: that you are a winner, a profit-center to society, rather than 'cost'---- what a dangerous LIE! this can be!!!) The bigger corporate sharks come along to this Farm they set up for themselves: they shop and LOOK for exactly those types to "harvest" them.

The sharks entice these (unconsciously) scared-people into signing up for myriads of security-based sevices "needed" for the support of the new-fledgling business'--- Newbies become "flattered" and hypnotized into the notion that they are becoming "important"-- that they are the 'job-creators', the elites of this world! when in actuality they are BAIT for the sharks who are counting on cannibilizing! ... Play with their food, glamoring it-- then they eat it!

The corporate shark business-eaters take "advantage" of these little business-dreamers!! (yes... could you tell this strikes a nerve in my 'advocating and protective of others' self?) arrrrgh! They PROMOTE businesses so they can EAT THEM FOR LUNCH when these "fail"!!

Reminds me VERY VERY MUCH of the "mortgage scams" that people got involved in.... I saw (around the time of the USA Elections of Nov 2012) "how" these corporate-eaters solicit... i.e. "it's fair to make money off of ANYTHING, just for the desire of the moment, then screw any consequences to people or the earth environment!"

imo, All this "job-creators" jargon-junk was PRIMARILY intended to 'scare-up' opportunity using 'vulnerable' people during a time of seriously felt economic crisis--- (which was a profit-boon! and pure 'entertainment' for the filthiest unmoral mega-richies who watched and provoked it into happening!)

These corporate-eaters work like unethical salespersons in the guise of "role-models" and "leadership" in order to "set people up"; then in the bottom-line these bottom-feeders "reap" when unsuspecting people and small-businesses fail!!-- Legal, because the newbies "signed" and so they have the liability to pay for the mistake of over-extending themselves.

The corporate sharks have planned their way into this position ruthlessly to win it ALL-- Whether the small business thrives or fails, the sharky raiders are able to even maneuver these starry-eyed well-meaning victims to even 'take' the self-blame for these mistakes! (arrrgh... Abusive scum-bags!!!) ... oooo, I'm feeling it today!

I don't think many "newbies" are prepared in advance with ample-enough starting capital (savings) to start their business-- So, AcousticGod, when some aren't making the flying golden profits, they look for the customer to "pay" for their greed, high risk behavior, and 'entitled' feelings? They 'fell' to the lusts of those advertized promised rich-making profits by the lure of "being 'your own' business" and job-creators!!-- Now they're just trying to get people to shop at these places, preying on good-hearted "sympathy" and not the "honor" ---that they would have good business offers, of good products and services available.

Some newbies have in a dream-state have 'overextend' themselves from the start-- through ill-advised or reckless poor business planning, or naivety. They wind up with numbing paralytic 'risks' --- They jeopardize family or individual relationships in their lives. Financially, they set their relational worlds in scary and distubing DEBT!!

This is done blindly, unknowingly, without thought or a look at the REAL present economy for the non-uber-rich. They have their hearts set on living like those uber-richies! They gamble their futures without thought that failing is a possibility! The business in not set on sound, proper, practical foundations, and a "true" understanding of what they are undertaking! (What it will do to their partner, the children--- relationships; as well as their financial security.) ...well, maybe I'm a tiny bit too conservative when it comes to this risk-factoring? Gotta be my Cappy 2nd House, with Chiron-rxAqua in it!

Bottom-line is to have "awareness" and to be helping and advising each other from experience, so that "we" don't fall as prey!

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mirage29
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posted March 29, 2013 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
Nope!

It's a store, not a zoo.


Good one, T!!

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posted March 29, 2013 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...Hey! got any grapes?

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