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Topic: Angelina Jolie - mastectomy
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charmainec Moderator Posts: 6645 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 14, 2013 09:38 AM
http://m.scotsman.com/news/health/angelina-jolie-has-double-mastectomy-op-1-2927739 Wanted to hear how the ladies feel about having a mastectomy to prevent breast cancer. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 6810 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 14, 2013 09:42 AM
I just finished reading the article Personally I believe is was a wise and egoless decision. She and Brad have 6 children to raise and to ensure their future with a Mom, she chose the right move. It is horrific to watch a loved one die from cancer. Besides that , who wouldn`t prefer breasts that will never head south ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 230 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 14, 2013 05:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by charmainec: http://m.scotsman.com/news/health/angelina-jolie-has-double-mastectomy-op-1-2927739 Wanted to hear how the ladies feel about having a mastectomy to prevent breast cancer.
Just read the article now, and of course she's brave for it, but it leaves me heartbroken, that anyone should go through this (even men get breast cancer and the 'solution' is the same) because am sure there is already a cure of cancer and am sure it is quick, and effective, but for some reason we're not allowed to have it. There should be something better out there than to 'mutilate'(don't know what the proper words for this is, if i used the wrong one) people's bodies in order to cure them. I do know that a neutral body is healthy, and watermelons and lemons, which despite the acidic taste they become alkaline once in our digestive system, are two super foods for this. There was also something i read about a while ago, called regional chemotherapy, where only the area of the body with cancer is treated, and it had been preformed successfully in Europe but still not allowed by the FDA in the US, as there is a 10 year waiting period for some things apparently... so am very respectful of this beautiful woman's courage, which put her family before herself...but am also not so happy, as i wish there was a way she could have gotten rid of the cancer causing cells, without having to go through a mastectomy.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 28288 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 14, 2013 06:22 PM
She didn't have cancer. But she carries the rare gene that makes the probability and likelihood of getting it around 85 percent. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4458 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2013 07:56 AM
Brave decision but was it wise? She could have waited till 44-45 as more and more effective treatment will come in the next few years. Survival rates have dramatically increased for early detection. And the risk has not become zero, there is 5% chance even now.Anti-Cancer diets and Alkaline food do make the risk close to zero. Since she is a celebrity, millions of women will follow the example, and the "Meme" of Self-Mutilation has now been seeded in Humanity to a whole new level. Next, some paranoid women will be demanding hysterectomy in their 20s because another gene has been discovered as a link. Matter of time before a male celebrity removes his prostate and the media again hails it as a brave decision.... Doctors of course will mint more and more money... IMHO, I did not like her decision one bit even though she has the best of intentions for her children.
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jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 230 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 16, 2013 08:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Brave decision but was it wise? She could have waited till 44-45 as more and more effective treatment will come in the next few years. Survival rates have dramatically increased for early detection. And the risk has not become zero, there is 5% chance even now.Anti-Cancer diets and Alkaline food do make the risk close to zero. Since she is a celebrity, millions of women will follow the example, and the "Meme" of Self-Mutilation has now been seeded in Humanity to a whole new level. Next, some paranoid women will be demanding hysterectomy in their 20s because another gene has been discovered as a link. Matter of time before a male celebrity removes his prostate and the media again hails it as a brave decision.... Doctors of course will mint more and more money... IMHO, I did not like her decision one bit even though she has the best of intentions for her children.
What IQ said, totally agree with this.
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2509 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 16, 2013 09:52 AM
I disagree, being in the medical field and being a pracitioner of more holistic methods with myself, the 85% figure has lots of variables.I also think this country is well past due for a cure for cancer, for one. The US medical practice, being fuled by pharmaceutical companies, drags its feet, or even keeps advances on devestating dis-eases underwraps, cause The US medical practitioners would rather give a pill and send you on your way... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 41877 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 16, 2013 10:15 AM
There are cures for cancer and for AIDS out there. This country--the US-- has too much money invested in sick care. Remember Magic Johnson with AIDS. He went to Europe to cure it. He is fine. The people who will take natural cures public will be shut down and even killed, if necessary. Dr Richard Schultz has to carry a gun with him. He is the best one to teach people how to cure themselves imo he cannot treat patients anymore because he was thrown in jail 3 time for bogus reasons. All he can do is give information. He is a saint and hero imo ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 230 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 16, 2013 10:22 AM
True that, i also remember a case of an Italian doctor back in the 80's who managed to cure cancer with nothing but a certain type of iodine.poor thing got excited went public with his 'discovery' and the amount ridicule and jail time he had to put up with, was horrendous. The pharmaceutical companies over there, did all they can to use the media to portray him as a careless, selfish madman, to the point people were scared of what others will think of them if they ever went to any of his talks. so 'ugh' is all i think these days when i hear of another person who found out they have cancer and is poisoning the body with chemotherapy as a cure....or like AJ, doing something so crazy to try and combat any chance of getting it. by the way in Europe there is something called regional chemotherapy where chemicals are only put where the cancerous cells are, and many people who were okay candidates for it, survived with no need for any body part removed (leukemia though, is still another subject) IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 28288 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2013 01:38 PM
I'm with you. Was just stating what the doctors told her. quote: Originally posted by hippichick: I disagree, being in the medical field and being a pracitioner of more holistic methods with myself, the 85% figure has lots of variables.I also think this country is well past due for a cure for cancer, for one. The US medical practice, being fuled by pharmaceutical companies, drags its feet, or even keeps advances on devestating dis-eases underwraps, cause The US medical practitioners would rather give a pill and send you on your way...
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jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 230 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 16, 2013 02:37 PM
I just read the title as internet slow today...but looks like she wants to get her ovaries removed to now....that is not good imhoIP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2509 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 16, 2013 10:26 PM
Well, let me tell everybody right now!Do NOT believe everything docs tell you!! Medicine is an educated shot in the dark, practice, they put together a list of symptoms and eliminate probable causes. Had a patient 2 weeks ago, I knew she had developed Guillan Barrre, but suggested it to one doc, he said it was not typical, but it was the ONLY thing that explained her symptoms. Yet they put her through a bunch of unnecessary tests to come to the conclusion: Guillan Barre. Now, given her symptoms the docs acted accordingly as they probably had to, and put her through the tests to cover their butts, all the while it was obvious what she was developing. My mom makes me really mad. Some doc has her believing she is in kidney failure...she is 76. I have reviewed her labs and her symptoms....she is not in kidney failure, but needs to be cautious. Even her oncologist, who she respects very much told her the same. So, she suffers from terrible arthritis of the hip, not wanting to take an NSAID due to her "kidney failure...." Geez..I told mom...your body will outlive your kidneys in spades! I still swear its all about the almighty dollar. Medicare/medicade sets the standards for fees applied in the US, but as a doc, you have to go through the steps to as to rattel the government's cages, nor the hospitals cause they will not get reimbursed if things are not followed appropriately. I preach all the time...EDUCATION!!! google.com!!! Dont listen to any doc until you have educated yourself!!! IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 9618 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2013 11:52 PM
I wish she'd realized all the Cancer cures that are already out there, but supressed, first...IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 9618 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 16, 2013 11:54 PM
what a platform she has .....kind of a shame... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 41877 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 17, 2013 07:38 AM
Very sad about the natural health people jailed or shut down. I worked for a well known natural healer. I was his assistant and I was sent out when fake people came in trying to trap him. When I left, the state medical board got slicker and sent a patient in to whom he confided. He was shut down.One of his friends cured a woman of cancer with a natural product from Native Americans. He was shut down. You have to find your own way and have the courage to go against the doctors. You really need a friend to help you for support because it is too scary to do on your own, especially if it is a serious disease imo ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 230 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 17, 2013 10:19 AM
Thinking about it (yes i found my conspiracy theorist hat again hehe tin foil and all) and knowing this woman's past history of cutting herself, am starting to wonder if she's taken it a step further....or if she's joined some cult, that needs all this mutilating for some ritual or something???if people start going by her example, then we will need to sever all our body parts and organs and then put them back together again to avoid the risk of cancer as we're all at risk in this day and age with the stuff we eat.... and yep, there isn't a thing disease on this planet that doesn't have a cure, but where to find it is the question! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 41877 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 17, 2013 10:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by jellyfishtry: Thinking about it (yes i found my conspiracy theorist hat again hehe tin foil and all) and knowing this woman's past history of cutting herself, am starting to wonder if she's taken it a step further....or if she's joined some cult, that needs all this mutilating for some ritual or something???if people start going by her example, then we will need to sever all our body parts and organs and then put them back together again to avoid the risk of cancer as we're all at risk in this day and age with the stuff we eat.... and yep, there isn't a thing disease on this planet that doesn't have a cure, but where to find it is the question!
Well, big Pharma and the medical establishment block information, so people do what they are told from conventional sources.
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jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 230 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 17, 2013 11:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Well, big Pharma and the medical establishment block information, so people do what they are told from conventional sources.
This is true, i know this first hand. The question is how to get the average person spoiled by today's convenience to know that seeking answers that are 'alternative herbs native medicine etc' won't make them look like a granola bar, wearing a rice sack.(u know the typical image the media wants people to associate with those who seek alternative healing....like the modern person, is well maintained and chic ambitious, uses so and so pharma brand and recommends it...and the other mentioned above is...well crazy) IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4458 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2013 11:48 AM
Looks like she got played by Big Pharma. A patent game is on for BRCA1 Gene. Sigh. What else is new? This article explains in detail: http://www.naturalnews.com/040365_Angelina_Jolie_gene_patents_Supreme_Court_decision.html IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 41877 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 17, 2013 11:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: Looks like she got played by Big Pharma. A patent game is on for BRCA1 Gene. Sigh. What else is new? This article explains in detail: http://www.naturalnews.com/040365_Angelina_Jolie_gene_patents_Supreme_Court_decision. html
People are afraid to think out of the box, which I understand, but the consequences are dire, in most cases.
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6810 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2013 08:39 AM
IQ, indeed. Myriad is in the Supreme Court attempting to patient my, your and everyones genes. How about some CAPS and thumbs down for them. In defence of medicine and pharma, holistic has it`s limits and I am grateful for antibiotics ( for one) ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 41877 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 18, 2013 08:53 AM
Antibiotics are good the way Sweden uses them--very judiciously. We have so overused them that we have drug resistant, virulent strains. Big money, big Pharma, Big medicine once again has bombed.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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doommlord Moderator Posts: 2409 From: israel Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 18, 2013 09:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Antibiotics are good the way Sweden uses them--very judiciously. We have so overused them that we have drug resistant, virulent strains. Big money, big Pharma, Big medicine once again has bombed.
And its a circle of self destruction.....they viruses keep getting stronger and the pharma companies make stronger poison...till nothing of the person is left. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 6810 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 18, 2013 10:12 AM
Fortunately, we have the choice to take anti biotics or not. It is the individual using them or asking for them when not necessary. People stop taking, Drs stop prescribing, pharma loses. Like hippychick said: educate your self. ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 6810 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2013 07:36 PM
The news is saying the Jolie family has a long history of cancer deaths from the BRCA1 Gene. Her Aunt just died from breast cancer. Again, I see A.J. surgery as a plus for her and her family.IP: Logged |