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Topic: Would You Take A HIV Vaccine?
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Randall
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posted September 16, 2013 05:20 PM
  
This topic was lost with the server failing, so I don't have the link now, but a vaccine for HIV has passed preliminary human trials. Would you take it?IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted September 16, 2013 05:37 PM
No. But if I had a lot of sex (especially hook up sex) then I'd look into it. OTOH, I could be raped by someone with HIV so I suppose it's possible I could be sold on the idea...but I'd have to look into it a lot more. I'm fully aware that doctors and pharmaceutical companies are willing to lie about the supposed benefits (while downplaying the risks) of their products to make a quick sale. OTOH, others are willing to hype up dangers that are slight or even nonexistent, too, so I'd be very careful in deciding what was the truth and if I thought it was worth it the costs and risks to me (compared to possible costs and risks of not having it). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2013 05:55 PM
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Aries Eagle
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posted September 16, 2013 05:58 PM
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" Benjamin Franklin We know HIV can be transferred in different ways other than just Intercourse. For me first vaccine must prove it's ability to prevent disease at least by 50%. Second there must be no bad side effects from it to humans. Third vaccine is affordable and at reasonable price, then why not. IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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posted September 16, 2013 07:06 PM
absolutely! working in the medical field, we are to exercise universal precautions when it comes to dealing with patients, but sometimes you just never know. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 17, 2013 09:55 AM
The idea of voluntarily taking HIV into my body isn't a pleasant one. IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows
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posted September 17, 2013 10:33 AM
No i wouldn't....my whole lifestyle goes against the need for such a thing. I also don't work in a profession where i meet a lot of sick people so, no.on the other hand, people who sleep around too much may as well. Also people who work in medicine.... Agree with Ami Anne though, as we learnt from South park, the cure is there, it just requires millions of dollars (probably less, but this is what the medical oligarchy is doing a good job at making us believe at the moment) IP: Logged |
libraschoice77
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posted September 17, 2013 10:39 AM
Wouldn't, you couldn't pay me enough to take it.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2013 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
No i wouldn't....my whole lifestyle goes against the need for such a thing. I also don't work in a profession where i meet a lot of sick people so, no.on the other hand, people who sleep around too much may as well. Also people who work in medicine.... Agree with Ami Anne though, as we learnt from South park, the cure is there, it just requires millions of dollars (probably less, but this is what the medical oligarchy is doing a good job at making us believe at the moment)
No, the cure is easy as are all cures( in most cases) You use what God gave us--fresh veggies, wheat grass and fresh juices an fasting. However, if a person has a condition, he needs to seek help from a holistic doctor and not fast by himself. ------------------
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Dreaming111
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posted September 17, 2013 12:39 PM
That's like saying would you take a vaccine for Hep B and stick it in a carcass infected with Hep B.Hep B is more infective than HIV. People tend to make poor choices, which leads to bad habits, lack of reflection, lack of self improvement and then they want a bandage to cover a huge gash on their face. HIV vaccinations while it could be good for those in region of high prevalence does not help solve the lifestyle crisis that caused it. We need a lifestyle/ cultural revolution to ensure healthier and happier lifestyles for EVERYONE. Hiv vaccinations are in my opinion not a good idea. Also....I dislike experimenting with my body with other vaccines. This would be totally off limits to me. I would rather be more conscientious and responsible for preventing situations where I would contract Hiv. To me this would be easier and would allow for my peace of mind. As for situations where I would be raped or unintentionally exposed to the virus....the vaccine would not help. Vaccines are BEFORE the event or exposure occurs. In the healthcare industry, everyone is exposed to all sorts of things, I doubt many would take the hiv vaccination. IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted September 17, 2013 06:12 PM
Nope!And I loathe that I am forced to take the flu vacc, since I am a nurse, or set myself up to loose my job, etc. HECK NO! IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted September 17, 2013 08:05 PM
Yes.
I am sick of people making others sick because of their paranoia.
I caught the measles and chicken pox in tandem a few moths ago and suffered for over 100 days. 
Why?
Because people drag their germ laden not vaccinated infected kids out in public not caring who they make sick or kill.
Same for the flu. People snotting all over and touching everything and 90% of people not washing hands. It is disgusting.
Most here are too young to remember polio or to have known any polio victims or small pox victims, or whooping cough and more horrible once common and often deadly ills.
Why?
Thanks to vaccinations.
One rant on this topic. http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/the_religious_right_is_res uscitating_dead_diseases_20130917/ IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 17, 2013 08:11 PM
If vaccines work, what do vaccinated people have to fear of unvaccinated ones?IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted September 17, 2013 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
If vaccines work, what do vaccinated people have to fear of un vaccinated ones?
Not sure what you are asking?
They do not have fear of un vaccinated ones because they have been vaccinated.
I wanted the chicken pox and measles vaccines but doctors refused because most kids are vaccinated these days. Well geez, I just happened to encounter some infected ones either in the hospital ER or the doctor's office. Either way it really p!sses me off that I had to endure the measles and chicken pox.
From hereon I intend to keep up on any vaccinations they will let an adult get.
I will not trust the public to vaccinate their kids.PS.
My son almost died of Encephalitis during and caused by a bout of chicken pox. I asked for the vaccine for him due to his heart issues but the doctor said no because chicken pox was not common any longer.
Well geez....not long after my son got chicken pox we believe from the non vaccinated Amish kids. Fortunately he did have his polio vaccine.
Unlike un vaccinated
Amish kids who were ill or dying from polio. PPS.
Also many vaccines do not offer lifetime immunity. You need boosters every decade or so. As immunity wears off from older vaccinations, I dread what might happen. "shudder". IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2013 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
If vaccines work, what do vaccinated people have to fear of unvaccinated ones?
Yes! ------------------
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hippichick
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posted September 18, 2013 08:44 PM
They are mostly synthetic.Might as well shoot up herion or something. When a friend of mine, a farmer in WI let me know how the flu vaccine was made.... NO... We easily develop immunities on our own. Not to mention creating super bugs by genetically messing with the dna of he bug and injecting it into we humans. no...would not do it, hate that I have to do it for my job. IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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posted September 19, 2013 02:13 PM
I don't mind the vaccines....I have had my boosters done and Hep B vaccines but that is because I have to. I have been able to get away with the flu vaccine so far. I had to get my boosters done six years ago because I had given birth and my titers were low during a measles outbreak. They didn't want me to infect the baby before his MMRs. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 20, 2013 11:37 PM
I would prefer not to put my life into the hands of the medical theocracy.IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted September 22, 2013 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I would prefer not to put my life into the hands of the medical theocracy.
EXCELLENT!!! IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted September 26, 2013 02:05 PM
And ya know, I dont know why all these folks are on the GMO bandwagon, when they are willing to have a tweeked with virus injected into their bodies...Strange~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 26, 2013 02:24 PM
GMO is soooo sick. I was marveling that I plant avocado pits to see what will happen. I have about 10 baby trees growing in my garden.God made the seeds and made them work like they do. It is the hubris of man to try to mess with the glorious system that God made.
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hippichick
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posted September 26, 2013 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
GMO is soooo sick. I was marveling that I plant avocado pits to see what will happen. I have about 10 baby trees growing in my garden.God made the seeds and made them work like they do. It is the hubris of man to try to mess with the glorious system that God made.
Yet, "we" require our children to be vaccinated, our animals...by some genetically messed with virus.. Makes my skin crawl. IF I dont recieve the flu vacc every year per my employer, it goes on my record as "non compliant." and I would be forced to wear a mask during all patient care during the flu months, Septmeber thru March.. So I succomb just to keep my job and I dont like it...not at all! I have tried everything, "religious/spiriitual" beliefs...nothing...still have to wear a mask. EVEN if I were to obtain a note from my doc stating it was contraindicated....still have to wear a mask... Yea...building my bunker asap...then me and my soap box are going traveling.  IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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posted September 26, 2013 11:27 PM
Well non cow/pig insulin is a GMO drug that I am glad was created. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/897705/genetically-modified-organism-GMO/279978/GMOs-in-medicine-and-research
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hippichick
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posted September 27, 2013 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Well non cow/pig insulin is a GMO drug that I am glad was created. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/897705/geneti cally-modified-organism-GMO/279978/GMOs-in-medicine-and-research
O, agreed! But I would not take a vaccine, if I were not almost forced to, just to keep my job IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 27, 2013 12:41 PM
The flu vaccine is the most ridiculous vaccine of all. It doesn't even purport to prevent the flu this season. They try to "predict" how the virus will mutate next season and then immunize against it.  IP: Logged |
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