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Dreaming111
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posted September 16, 2013 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Randall,

How are you?
So I didn't know where else to ask this or bring this up.

But you banned Palputations or closed his thread offering free vedic readings and possibly his other threads on astrology 2.0.
I have seen other people post similar threads where the reports were sent to their emails instead of being posted on the site.
Why was he banned for doing the same?

I did receive a report from him, and I can say it was very accurate, and I didn't get spammed from him either. He seems very helpful, and I asked soooo many personal and probably annoying questions. He answered each one without being gruff or telling me I was asking too much in one go.

He does know his stuff, and based on his own personal story, I don't feel he has any malice or ill intent. He just wants to help others who are struggling as he once was. He told me things in a very personal manner; it was not a computer generated sheet that someone copies and pastes; he took a lot of effort and replied genuinely.


Also, lots of vedic astrologers really focus on privacy. Who knows maybe that was his reasoning. Or maybe he didn't know it was that big of a deal? I honestly didn't know about the whole email thing either....

Would you please reconsider this ban or closing his thread. I know that lots would definitely benefit from having him on here. I did.

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Jessica2407
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posted September 17, 2013 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moving this to lindaland 2.0

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Randall
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posted September 17, 2013 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some here have been spammed with Vedic offers. Could be a coincidence. But I explained to him/her that we don't know what the intent is and to get to know us first. I was assured no more email requests would be done. Broken promises led to the banning the first time around. I allowed a second registration, and the same thing occurred.

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Jessica2407
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posted September 17, 2013 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I may.

Being a reader of vedic charts myself, I don't take on requests to read vedic charts on a public forum. Main reason would be it is really very uncomfortable to me to say things that could be highly private to the person.And of course, because I have like ten thousand things that I do, I really can't allow myselt to invest more time on reading Vedic Charts. However Vedic can be very overwhelming to the person requesting the reading because more than often they aren't even aware what they have asked for! That being said, you can truly and honestly bring help to people if that is the intended purpose and also depending on the depth of the reading.

Also if I may say this :

The rules and regulations should be plastered somewhere on this forum so that they are clearly visible thus preventing members to be banned for not respecting them.


Again rooting for the good purpose of a sticky thread

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NoRainNoRainbows
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posted September 17, 2013 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoRainNoRainbows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Okay it is good you explained you are trying to protect other posters from hackers, spammrs, stalkers and other such fun creatures, but it looks like this guy was genuine.

maybe it was someone who sent him the email after you told him not to take any requests for now, and him wanting to be helpful didn't want to say no?

it doesn't even look like he was charging for his time and effort, which is something you yourself like.

perhaps this guy should be allowed back, as he wasn't trolling or anything, but make it clear that he is the exception not the rule?

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Randall
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posted September 17, 2013 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was no misunderstanding. He said he would quit posting his e-mail. Then he started back again. I did let him back. He did it again. He could be selling e-mail addresses to spammers, doing free readings and then later charging outrageous sums, identity theft, or even more sinister things. The point is, we just don't know. I told him to let us get to know him first. His insistence not to follow the rule after saying he would leads me to believe he is suspect.

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Dreaming111
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posted September 17, 2013 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could be right Randall. He might be someone who sells emails. But who gives a stranger an official email? Also, maybe you should tell the lindaland users how to be safe while on the thread and not to divulge their real names etc?
He is interested in the privacy and free flow of discussion about personal issues which are ...very, very personal.

Maybe you could have him back for a trial period again and post all the rules of the forum to him?

I would also like to take a look. I don't think I have ever paid attention. : /

I'm not looking to add a bad person back onto the site. I guess, he has helped me and continues to teach me about my chart I just don't think he would spend all this time just to get my email. There are easier methods.

And he mentioned that he is only doing this during his vacation so he has more than enough requests from here and from friends and family to keep him busy.

He only answers questions so again it's not a full blown sit down about the chart. He doesn't overreach either or pretend to give you all the answers. He's pretty frank about what he knows and is unsure of.

I just think it's a huge misunderstanding between two well intentioned individuals.

Anyway, it is in the end up to you.

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Queen Salome
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posted September 17, 2013 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So he responded to your email? What are experiences of others who sent him emails?

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Stardancer
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posted September 17, 2013 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stardancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen Salome:
So he responded to your email? What are experiences of others who sent him emails?

He responded to mine and he was very courteous and professional. And he answered all my questions with the utmost depth and patience, and told me some about Vedic astrology that's made me resolve to invest in some books and learn more about it. It's fascinating.

While I understand that Lindaland is a forum where people need to post the info in order for everyone to learn--the rules are there for a good reason--he told me that he was following the Vedic rules for being private and discreet. According to what he said, it's something like a doctor/lawyer/client relationship. I suppose if this is the case, that's why there's not many Vedic astrologers on Lindaland. :P

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poochycat
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posted September 17, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poochycat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I was one of the first to respond. By the way it is a woman as she told me her name. I asked her very simple and direct questions which she did not answer and then started to ask questions which were not even related to my original question. There were very personal in nature,which I said, and she replied that if I send her my email address she would assure that it would not be posted on this site. Stupidly I did. Just recently I have been receiving a LOT of junk e-mail on vedic astrology although a different email address than hers. Coincidence??? Have a look at the rules of this site again. It states that you are NOT to share emails and personal info with anyone. It is for your own personal safety. There are PLENTY of talented people on this site that will give you a reading but I as well as others got sucked in. Sorry to be blunt but I honestly feel she is bad news and should not be allowed back especially after ignoring Randall's warnings twice.

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Randall
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posted September 17, 2013 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The rules are on the sign-up page about not posting e-mails or divulging personal information. Still, I didn't just ban him. I told him to stop, which he said he would.

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Dreaming111
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posted September 17, 2013 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poochycat:
Hi all,

I was one of the first to respond. By the way it is a woman as she told me her name. I asked her very simple and direct questions which she did not answer and then started to ask questions which were not even related to my original question. There were very personal in nature,which I said, and she replied that if I send her my email address she would assure that it would not be posted on this site. Stupidly I did. Just recently I have been receiving a LOT of junk e-mail on vedic astrology although a different email address than hers. Coincidence??? Have a look at the rules of this site again. It states that you are NOT to share emails and personal info with anyone. It is for your own personal safety. There are PLENTY of talented people on this site that will give you a reading but I as well as others got sucked in. Sorry to be blunt but I honestly feel she is bad news and should not be allowed back especially after ignoring Randall's warnings twice.


Really? O.o

What was "her" name?

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Jessica2407
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posted September 18, 2013 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stardancer:
He responded to mine and he was very courteous and professional. And he answered all my questions with the utmost depth and patience, and told me some about Vedic astrology that's made me resolve to invest in some books and learn more about it. It's fascinating.

While I understand that Lindaland is a forum where people need to post the info in order for everyone to learn--the rules are there for a good reason--he told me that he was following the Vedic rules for being private and discreet. According to what he said, it's something like a doctor/lawyer/client relationship. I suppose if this is the case, that's why there's not many Vedic astrologers on Lindaland. :P


LOL

No there are no 'Vedic rules'.

You could read a vedic chart by skimming the details out,private things I mean. But if the person wants to go in deeper, then a certain degree of privacy needs to be respected, you can't just blurt out sensitive things on a public forum. That would be very insensitive.

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SilverFeather
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posted September 18, 2013 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was genuine and he personally contacted me and offered me a throughout interpretation of my Vedic chart without any fees. I don't think he should be banned.

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sillyme
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posted September 18, 2013 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope to see Palputations back on this forum.
'HE' is a genuine, dedicated astrologer who knows what he is talking about. He is also extremely patient who will attend to all your doubts and queries, no matter how many they may be.
My experience has been wonderful.

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m.blade
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posted September 18, 2013 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was kind, helpful and genuine and offered me and offered me a interpretation of my vedic chart which was quite interesting He shouldn't be banned.

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Stardancer
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posted September 18, 2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stardancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
LOL

No there are no 'Vedic rules'.

You could read a vedic chart by skimming the details out,private things I mean. But if the person wants to go in deeper, then a certain degree of privacy needs to be respected, you can't just blurt out sensitive things on a public forum. That would be very insensitive.


Ohhh, OK.

Kind of feel like an idiot :P

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Stardancer
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posted September 20, 2013 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stardancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard back from him. He was reading this thread. He seems like a genuinely nice person, and an excellent astrologer. Not a scam artist at all, just very respectful of peoples' privacy.

All right, that what I have to say on the subject.

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SagittariusRising
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posted September 20, 2013 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SagittariusRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to chime in and say that I've contacted Palputations for a Vedic reading too. He (or she, I think Palputations is in fact, a woman) is incredibly nice and really helpful to me as well, she actually kept asking if I had more questions. I feel a little bad because I guess she's busy now I hope she can come back, she'd be an asset to these forums, I think.

I didn't get any spam emails, but maybe because I only saw the thread and chose to go ahead and email her instead of posting my information in the actual thread.

I'm still trying to study and wrap my head around sidereal astrology. I've often felt Geminian, but I thought that I was a Cancer with lots of Mercury aspects and a Gemini DSC. But me being a Sun-Mer-Ven Gemini with Scorp ASC makes lots of sense, too.

Sag rising still kinda applies for me if I've got Jupiter in Sag in 1H, right?

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Lunae
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posted September 27, 2013 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This gonna be a late post but I promised I would provide feedback about YYY's vedic readings. I agree with most of the members who said that he/she gave free quality readings. It was nothing of the spam type. It was purely all about what I requested from him/her.

And Jess is right, Vedic readings do have a more personal touch to it, so I can understand why he/she could not divulge such info on a public forum. He/she could post some valuable vedic stuff on here, I don't think this user should be banned.

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