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Dee
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posted December 21, 2013 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The saga goes back to February. The 15-year-old was getting treated for Mitochondrial Disease, which affects the muscles.

When symptoms grew worse, Justina Pelletier ended up at Boston Children's Hospital. Doctors there came up with a startling diagnosis. They said Justina wasn't physically sick, but mentally sick with Somatoform Disorder. It's a mental illness where someone actually experiences physical pain.

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http://www.wfsb.com/story/24276238/family-bettling-massachseutts-hospital-to-bring-daughter-home

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posted December 21, 2013 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TERRIBLE story

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posted December 21, 2013 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sure is,parents have to fear taking children for medical care now.

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posted December 23, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kidjacked

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posted December 24, 2013 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is freakin absolute HEART-break!! Social Workers can do INCREDIBLE damage to innocent families~~ behind the parent's back!

STOLEN precious small time..... so freakin' sad! Rip your lifetime, and your broken heart to shreds! They are cold, ruthless monsters.

Then there are "real" abusers who are allowed to keep their children~~ where the social workers are lazy and look the other way. Don't even DO the visits.... just sign off and get the "credit".... How FREAKIN SCARY that must be to the Child who is yearning for release....

Pray for these, ALL OF THEM.... o m g!!

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posted December 24, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The saga goes back to February. The 15-year-old was getting treated for Mitochondrial Disease, which affects the muscles.

When symptoms grew worse, Justina Pelletier ended up at Boston Children's Hospital. Doctors there came up with a startling diagnosis. They said Justina wasn't physically sick, but mentally sick with Somatoform Disorder. It's a mental illness where someone actually experiences physical pain.

more in link
http://www.wfsb.com/story/24276238/family-bettling-massachseutts-hospital-to-b ring-daughter-home


Seems to ME to be a "point of Pride" in the EGOs of the Authoritarians at the helm! They are trying to convince people of something that does NOT make common-sense! "Just because" they are "the docs"..... This can be a HUGE mistake~~ Is she being used as "an experiment" that they don't want 'ruined' before they get all their research statistics on their experimental THEORY?

The girl is an adolescent! Adolescence is HARD~~ Did they give her the drug Serzone (big suicide side-effects flag in teens and kids, btw!?)? The side-effects of psych drugs on our precious kids and teens is an atrocity! ~~~ They need to learn about their "feelings"~~ and the power behind them. Our kids are NOT 'machines'..... *love*

This Harvard Teaching School has a physical-brain/ science approach to their diagnostics... If the patient doesn't "fit" their treatments, then obviously a trashcan diagnosis would be in order.


Seems to be a flagrant "misuse" of new "parity" rules? The patient is NOT A BRAIN, the patient HAS a brain. This is being used to manipulate money from the financial system, and NOT bring right-treatment. Our doctors today are NOT adequately trained in psychiatry..., and neither are the counselors. The Courts "rely" on the expertise of people who are NOT experts, although they should be! Education AND TRAINING is sorely lacking! soooo sad. There is not a FULL Understanding of what the Parity philosophy is trying to accomplish. This is purposefully confusing the intention and language between the mindbody connection and mental illness.... deliberately, to harm 'the system' and indirectly the patient.

Are the research staff/ docs / Courts in the 'public eye' afraid that this precious 15 year old could possibly "suicide" BECAUSE of what they've DONE to her? Maybe they're afraid they will get "sued" for her harm? YES, This sounds like they are HARMING her, mentally-emotionally by LABELING-- taking 'advantage' of her secluded young developmental state, and doing a mind-job on her! Manipulation..... Big NARCISSISTIC ego problems on the part of 'the pros' involved~~ They are the ones to blame-- deluding themselves AND using their clout to deceive the public! Despicable..... Sounds like a bit of munchaussen-by-embarrassed-authority figures if you ask me (ha!). They will HOLD ON to their mistake' for ever..... They are WILLING to "risk" HER health for their being "right"! A slice of false-healer Ego at the EXPENSE of the complete psychological disarrangement of a girl's Lifetime of possible HEALTH and well-being. This FAMILY and this developing teen (and in the other story, the baby) are being made the Living sacrifices to the 'professional ego'.... This is horrific and traumatic "medical error!"

AND WHAT public or private INSURANCE is "paying" for this error!!?? WHO will pay for the 'damages' done?

I pray there will be a Judge who will SEE right through this whole thing and "do" the right thing..... I hope they find a TRUE judge, free of political strings.... soooooo freakin sad!

Reminds me of some of the ABUSE of patients that used to go on in Illinois, Vermont, Texas, Massachusettes, Michigan, Oregon, and Pennsylvania back in the 1980s through the 1990s.... Only a few of the "perps" were taken to court.... Some had good lawyers who hushed the abuse. What about all the OTHER patients who were abused, then punished politically to 'keep silent'~~

Some perp-therps got away with vile heinous acts, AND.... there were those who watched and witnessed it who NEVER intervened on the behalf of the one being abused in their midst. These witnesses are JUST as GUILTY for NOT stopping what was happening at the time.... This secret history has been known for DECADES but the system is SOOOO big~~ 'too big to fail'! Crying SHAME on the reflection of this failing Society!!

I HOPE with ALL MY HEART that every nurse, doc, every staff person, even the JANITOR, will be HAUNTED in their Conscience until this kind of abuse of vulnerable, innocent souls stops!

Thank you soooo much for sharing this, Dee! (huggg!!) Abuse has GOT to STOP!

*Dorothea Lynde Dix, rolling in her grave!*

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posted December 26, 2013 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Senator Nancy Schaefer

THE CORRUPT BUSINESS OF CHILD PROTECTIVE
SERVICES
http://fightcps.com/pdf/TheCorruptBusinessOfChildProtectiveServices.pdf


Report of Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer on CPS Corruption

http://fightcps.com/2008/02/29/report-of-georgia-senator-nancy-schaefer-on-cps-corruption/

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posted January 07, 2014 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any updates?

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posted January 07, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found this
http://sudbury.patch.com/groups/opinion/p/justina-pelletier-case

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posted January 08, 2014 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dee... Thank you for these posts. SOOOO much work needs to be done. Each individual has suffered so much-- I pray that their losses can come to a place of tolerating, then surcease from the most-acute pain. And may the Community NOT forget! Somewhere, somehow, may some kind of good or worth come forth.

Love is so precious-- strongest bond & dissolver there is.

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posted January 08, 2014 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is gonna get worse and worse if Obamacare gets working. It is the government in charge of your healthcare.

However, people realize this too late, as with most things

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posted January 08, 2014 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 08, 2014 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 08, 2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne... What scares me worse than that is that the QUALITY OF CARE overall has diminished. The physician of 'today' does NOT have the skill of docs from before (around) the 1970s... There' no true overall care anymore. I haven't had to get naked for a physical since turn of the century (2000s).

Heck! I went to see an internist (new doc for me) and he did NOT know how to 'palpate' a thyroid~~? sheesh!

I couldn't say anything to him. He seems competent, has all his credentials, and he's an 'award winner' and consider a Best on the internet.... but freak me out???!! "That's" 'the best in my locale???' Holy wow!..... I'm scared!!! O giyodddddd, I WANNA MOVE AWAY FROM HERE!! Come n git me!!? Beam me out, Scotty!!

I'm just biding my ole time, and praying that nothing happens to my Health (dear Lord!!!). I'm "complicated" for people with shallow science-understandings (computerized) of medicine.... yeah, they "practice"..... holy shoot I want someone with GOOD OLD FASHIONED "experience" now!... No More "Beginners" or Wanna-be docs for me, pleazzze?? seriously!

The new ones JUST don't have the talents or skill-levels. They are "businesses" not "doctors".... It's all 'computerized' instead of intuition, science, and the 'art' of being a Doctor!

In the mail the other day, I found one of the 'bad' docs I left went through BIG EXPENSE in order to collect 67-cents!!! oh yeah??? make a big effing 'deal' with the gobernment..... HOW MUCH MONEY did THAT cost?... to give her the 67-cents she was "owed"? (yeah, she's 'the one' who "fell asleep" during one of my 'energy' treatments! ha!..... where's MY rebate?? what a CROOK!)

Welp, they're getting their computers fixed---- now, WHERE'S THE TALENT?????


this is SCARRRRYYYYYYYYYY... *chattering*

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posted January 13, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Justina Pelletier saga has been continued until Feb. 4.

Family and probate court judge Joseph Johnston ruled on Friday that 15-year-old Justina Pelletier is to remain in the custody of the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families for another three-and-a-half weeks.

She has been in the custody of Massachusetts DCF since February 2013.

Still, according to Justina’s father Lou Pelletier, "progress is being made."

“The proof will be in the pudding in a few weeks,” said Lou, who, along with the rest of the Pelletier family, remains under a gag order.

Linda Pelletier, Justina's mother, said that she is "hopeful."

The family's mood Friday stood in contrast to Dec. 20, when the Pelletiers tearfully exited the courthouse with Lou proclaiming, "Evil!"

Justina's care is being transferred to Tufts, where she will be transferred to a step-down unit, according to a source close to the situation.

The judge, according to the source, said that he "wants [Justina] back in Connecticut." The necessity for the step-down unit is because Justina is so medically fragile.

About 15 people showed up outside the Edward W. Brooke Courthouse Friday morning to support the Pelletiers or protest Boston Children’s Hospital.

One person held a sign that said, “Close Bader 5,” the psychiatric ward where Justina and other children are, or have been, housed.

Others took up the Pelletiers' cause by writing letters to various officials.

Kathleen Higgins, a former Boston Children’s nurse, wrote a Jan. 8 letter to Olga Roche, commissioner of the Department of Children and Families, stating that the hospital’s treatment was more akin to “torture.”

“From the perspective of the teen whose life has been derailed, she is the ward of a state devoid of compassion and conscience, prohibited from contact with every facet of her life that holds meaning for her,” Higgins wrote. “I am submitting this information, which has been made public, in the form of a complaint against Judge Joseph Johnston, Dr. Colleen Ryan and the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families for the emotional and medical abuse Justina Pelletier has suffered for nearly a year.”

Higgins expressed her concern for the teen, who has been told by Boston Children’s doctors that she won’t be returned to her parents and that she is not in need of medical attention.

“Any caregiver who failed to respond to their child’s complaints of pain; who chose instead to isolate and imprison their child to “force her to accept that she was not in need of medical attention”, would be accused of emotional abuse and medical neglect of their child,” Higgins wrote.

In addition, attorney Barry Pollack, a former federal prosecutor and the longest-tenured member of the Board of Directors of the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, called for the closure of the psychiatric unit of Boston Children’s Hospital, which is known as Bader 5.

“Based on [published] reports by several families, there has been a pattern of abuse of children by one or more healthcare providers at the Bader 5 inpatient unit of Children’s Hospital,” Pollack wrote. “My clients’ case involved the failure of Bader 5 providers to protect a 14-year-old girl, as set forth in the accompanying Complaint. I understand that other cases in which children have been confined in Bader 5 involve(d) controversial diagnoses concerning mitochondrial disorder (such as in the high profile Pelletier case and a less publicized Hilliard case), PANDAS (such as in the Wray case), and Lyme disease.”

Pollack went on to call Bader 5’s approach as “anti-parent” that “fails to respect the time-honored importance of the parental relationship, at the expense of children and families.”

“Children in Bader 5 can be blocked from the outside world and even at times daylight,” Pollack wrote. “For those children, like all victimized children, an important step in recovery can be an acknowledgement of wrongdoing by an institution that has failed them. Bader 5 has clearly failed and hurt many of its patients and their families.”

Justina, who has been diagnosed and treated by Tufts doctors for mitochondrial disorder, a rare genetic disease, was sent to Boston Children’s Hospital for a bout with the flu.

Justina’s regular doctor was unavailable at the time.

Doctors at Boston Children’s Hospital reportedly said that mitochondrial disorder does not exist and diagnosed Justina with somatoform disorder, a mental illness characterized by pain and gastrointestinal symptoms that have no identifiable physical cause.

Since that day in February, the Justina Pelletier’s parents — Linda and Lou — have seen the situation devolve into the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families taking custody of the girl and limiting contact with Justina to just one hour a week, with two 20-minute phone calls (which are monitored by hospital staff). Justina’s condition has also worsened.

The family has been out of contact with Justina since Dec. 20.
http://westhartford.patch.com/groups/around-town/p/west-hartford-girl-to-stay-in-custody-of-massachusetts-dcf_d89e7f4e

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posted January 13, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In the mail the other day, I found one of the 'bad' docs I left went through BIG EXPENSE in order to collect 67-cents!!! oh yeah??? make a big effing 'deal' with the gobernment..... HOW MUCH MONEY did THAT cost?... to give her the 67-cents she was "owed"?

Reminds me of someone who got double billed. She found the receipt from where she paid and sent it back to them...along with a bunch of added fees (filing, etc) similar to those listed in the bill (since they had to "remind" her they added extra fees) which charged them even more than the bill itself. She never heard back from them.

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posted January 13, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a serious thread I'm getting annoyed at the Hijack!!!

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posted January 13, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is a serious thread I'm getting annoyed at the Hijack!!!

Just be glad I didn't respond to the BS you posted on the "corrupt business of Child Protective Services." I could share the bitter thoughts I formed as a child who was forced to live with her abusive mother and surrounded by kids who couldn't get any help at all, any interference (which was unlikely to happen at all unless the authorities thought illegal drugs were involved) most likely to make it worse than better and which kept giving the kids back (IF they took them at all which they almost never did) to the parents no matter how much the kids (like me) begged not to be placed there.

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posted January 13, 2014 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just be glad I didn't respond to the BS you posted on the "corrupt business of Child Protective Services." I could share the bitter thoughts I formed as a child who was forced to live with her abusive mother and surrounded by kids who couldn't get any help at all, any interference (which was unlikely to happen at all unless the authorities thought illegal drugs were involved) most likely to make it worse than better and which kept giving the kids back (IF they took them at all which they almost never did) to the parents no matter how much the kids (like me) begged not to be placed there.


I'll tell you what I'll stay out of your BS threads and you stay out of Mine!!!!!!

PS you didn't stay out of my thread here the Eff you are!!!

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posted January 13, 2014 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me think about that, Dee. Part of me likes your idea, but part of me thinks the BS you help to spread should be challenged, including in this very thread. If I decide on the latter I will post detailed thoughts on CPS and the reasons (both political & sociological) why the BS gets spread whether you like it or not (you won't). As you say, it's a serious topic.

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posted January 13, 2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wonderfull start your own thread on it then,By the way IDGAF who feels i need to be,
challenged... lol i don't need anyone's permission to post the truth!!!

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posted January 13, 2014 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol i don't need anyone's permission to post the truth!!!

Nor to post half-truths and outright lies as you've also posted (ie, shared), including in this thread.

The more you protest the more I lean to rebutting you rather than letting this go.

But just out of curiosity, have you been burned by the system in regards to child custody as I was or does your own outrage just come from reading questionable news stories and political posturing?

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