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Topic: The Psychology Behind Messy Rooms: Why The Most Creative People Flourish In Clutter
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T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 19, 2014 07:46 AM
The Psychology Behind Messy Rooms: Why The Most Creative People Flourish In Clutter http://elitedaily.com/money/entrepreneurship/psychology-behind-messy-rooms-messy-room-may-necessarily-bad-thing/708046/ IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8072 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 19, 2014 10:26 AM
You've redeemed me!!! Honestly I MUCH prefer being in a tidy space and feel guilty about any messes in my vicinity (6H sun ruled by guilt-generating 12H Saturn)...but I prioritize other activities above cleaning, habitually, so my space reflects that. I call my cleaning style "sporadic feats of perfect order." Yes I have an official term for it. (Another term I invented is "micro-cleaning"...rather than calling myself LAZY if I only clean half the kitchen, I say to myself, 'Oh, I'm just micro-cleaning for now.' I resort to these devices to get my damn Saturn off my case.) But anyway, I might spend a whole day scrubbing down the pantry, re-organizing it, making it as Martha Stewart as I can...I have the drive and ability to focus on organization like that. I just don't want to do that non-stop, see. There are other things I want to create! If I spent all my time cleaning, I would have no time for applying my obsessive qualities to other things like astrology, cooking, friendships, giving my sons long piggy-back rides, etc. How about you, T? What's your organizational style? IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2843 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted August 20, 2014 01:19 AM
I could NOT live like this... oh no! I like things as deeply organized as I can get it, with only superficial archeological layers of messes on the top. My head would not be able to cope with this level of dirt-mess in the photo you've shown, T! Maybe two days max before embarking on a cleanup campaign!When I get into an astrological project, yes it can look like a hurricane hit. I have to back slowly out of those kinds of messes. I have mess time-tables... 1 day, 3 days, 5 days, 7 days depending on the project. Too much mess scrambles my brain if the 'basic' organization falls apart, or if there's not enough space-inbetween to have that level of mess diluted somehow. Have to stop everything and start over. Some levels of mess can leave me feeling utterly paralyzed in activity realms. Things I need to do but just can't. Sometimes there can be so much to look at, that I don't see a thing. (Way too many advertisements and signs can do that to me: actually can't take all-that in, so I feel a kind of blindness, can't read it, don't really notice some things... It's just way too much.) When I slow way down, then I really appreciate the finer nuances of things, their beauty. Sometimes the slower we go, the faster we can get there! Faith, we both like to clean ^ I laughed at your Creative story... IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2843 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted August 20, 2014 01:23 AM
I want to add this too, though. I've made messes like what's in your photo. Actually there can be a kind of warmth and focus of concentration when you get that far "into" the experience. Can be satisfying...Just ugh for the messy cleanup afterwards! ^ That one would take a full day perhaps. Have a lot of Fun! Create! IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2014 07:47 AM
Ha! I love both of your explanations and I completely relate.I function and work better in an organized clean space, but can't always keep things that way. Like you mirage, too much mess scrambles my brain and makes me anxious and I feel paralyzed and depressed so i have to "start over". Then I don't want to get into a new art project because I don't want to mess everything up again. My place can often look like a bomb went off in an art and craft supply store. Different projects going on here, there and everywhere. I wish I had a separate space for all that and home could just be home and feel peaceful, look pretty and neat. When things are a mess, I still know where everything is. It's an organized mess in a way, but I wish I could separate workspace from home. That would help a lot. Maybe down the road. Then I wouldn't mind a place that looks like the photo above, a seemingly disorganized studio would be okay because I could leave it there and go home to something else. That would be ideal. When I clean, I CLEAN and am great at organizing. I only wish it could stay that way and that the artist part of me had it's own separate space. I could create okay in disorganization, i just don't like it overflowing into home area. quote: I call my cleaning style "sporadic feats of perfect order." Yes I have an official term for it. (Another term I invented is "micro-cleaning"...rather than calling myself LAZY if I only clean half the kitchen, I say to myself, 'Oh, I'm just micro-cleaning for now.' I resort to these devices to get my damn Saturn off my case.) But anyway, I might spend a whole day scrubbing down the pantry, re-organizing it, making it as Martha Stewart as I can...I have the drive and ability to focus on organization like that. I just don't want to do that non-stop, see.
*nodding* Well said! Exactly! IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2014 07:51 AM
reminded of this: for some reason my vehicle always becomes a catch-all for random things. They go in, but never come back out. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8072 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 20, 2014 10:49 AM
^ROTFL!!!T & mirage Art is messy, yeah. You have to be able to work, throw paper around as you plunge ahead, getting right into the next moment, capturing what's in your mind...the clean-up will have to wait. Well they don't call it a brainstorm for nuthin! But like The Good Book says, to everything there is a season (mirage loves that song ) and I do like the cycle...the clean slate, mess, clean slate again... IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2843 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted August 21, 2014 12:16 PM
T ^ {{{ }}} & Faith ^ {{{ }}} . . . IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7487 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 21, 2014 02:38 PM
Oh dear, where did I drop that #6 sable brush?Clean that mess up immediately. My barn is cleaner and better organized. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Moderator Posts: 4089 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 22, 2014 10:47 PM
Chaos theory has a bad name, conjuring up images of unpredictable weather, economic crashes and science gone wrong. But there is a fascinating and hidden side to Chaos, one that scientists are only now beginning to understand.It turns out that chaos theory answers a question that mankind has asked for millennia – how did we get here? In this documentary, Professor Jim Al-Khalili sets out to uncover one of the great mysteries of science – how does a universe that starts off as dust end up with intelligent life? How does order emerge from disorder? It’s a mind bending, counter intuitive and for many people a deeply troubling idea. But Professor Jim Al-Khalili reveals the science behind much of beauty and structure in the natural world and discovers that far from it being magic or an act of God, it is in fact an intrinsic part of the laws of physics. Amazingly, it turns out that the mathematics of chaos can explain how and why the universe creates exquisite order and pattern. The natural world is full of awe-inspiring examples of the way nature transforms simplicity into complexity. From trees to clouds to humans – after watching this film you’ll never be able to look at the world in the same way again. Documentary: http://documentarystorm.com/the-secret-life-of-chaos/ Chaos theory tells us how order emerges from disorder. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 361 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 23, 2014 02:15 PM
There's a point at which it is overwhelming - I need space and to tidy between creative projects. but the amount of times that because I have not filed things away in an ordered manner and therefore have to rifle through different piles of stuff, I've encountered triggers that I couldn't have searched out are numerous and it's now quite deliberate not to have everything in certain place. Surprised they didn't go more into how it occurs in that article though. Francis bacons studio is a good example of this and I either read that similar moments of serendipity occurred or it's easy to imagine that's how it worked with himIP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2014 12:51 AM
Faith & mirage, jwhop, I'm beginning to think you are an artist yourself. Actually I thought that a long time ago, but wasn't sure yet. Fess up! And the #6 Sable is on the floor under the Arches pad to the left of the easel and stepped on, busted tube of Grumbacher ochre. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2014 12:53 AM
amelia, I'm bookmarking the documentary to watch later - thanks!!!florence, Well said, similar here. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 6346 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2014 01:15 AM
I'll have to come back and read this. I don't exactly flourish in it, but I always make a mess - I'm the messiest person in the house.IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 2843 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted August 25, 2014 08:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: Documentary: http://documentarystorm.com/the-secret-life-of-chaos/ Chaos theory tells us how order emerges from disorder.
Wow! I found this documentary truly thrilling and inspiring. Thanks, Amelia!
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amelia28 Moderator Posts: 4089 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 26, 2014 12:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: Wow! I found this documentary truly thrilling and inspiring. Thanks, Amelia!
Glad you liked it! It made me teary towards the end. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7487 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2014 07:45 AM
"the #6 Sable is on the floor under the Arches pad to the left of the easel and stepped on, busted tube of Grumbacher ochre."Thanks T, that's very helpful. Now, can you tell me what that easel is under? There seems to be multiple layers of debris. Me, an artist? You must have seen my Elvis on velvet paintings. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2014 12:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by jwhop:
Thanks T, that's very helpful. Now, can you tell me what that easel is under? There seems to be multiple layers of debris.
Your guess is as good as mine. quote: Me, an artist? You must have seen my Elvis on velvet paintings.
ROFL!! You are more talented than I thought! IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2014 12:12 PM
amelia, Thanks for sharing the documentary. I wasn't able to finish it because something happened and the video froze, but the audio was there halfway through. Going to try to finish it later.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 7487 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2014 10:11 PM
"ROFL!! You are more talented than I thought!"Just wait until you see my murals produced by drizzling paint into the airstream of a 150mph leaf blower. Sherwin Williams striped paint produces spectacular results. On the other hand, I've seen your work and you're a truly talented artist. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 10948 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2014 04:31 PM
You really should start a thread with your work in Yellow Wax. & thank you!!! IP: Logged |