posted September 17, 2016 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Dr phil was a bully and I felt sympathy for Burk.

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I couldn't believe it.

Obviously, Burke didn't do it.

Lost respect for Dr. Phil, not that I ever had huge respect. But how dare he just play along, incriminating a child who OBVIOUSLY could not have written that ransom note or committed this crime?

Really is Dr. Phil so stupid that he thinks there is any chance Burke did it? Or did he feel that he had to pander to the least intelligent internet conspiracy theorists who have no sense of logic whatsoever? And pile insult on top of injury to a person who was traumatized as a child?

How terrible!

I saw Dr. Phil giving an interview and sounding accusative about how Burke smiled too much.

posted September 19, 2016 04:08 PM            

http://www.watchseries.ac/link/vodlocker.com/7103379

posted September 20, 2016 04:52 AM            

I believe when the investigators contacted John and Burke about the series on CBS, they had to do damage control and did Dr. Phil. But, now what?

http://www.cbs.com/shows/the-case-of-jonbenet-r amsey/video/wfdLx_6mLblOfGD3AvSVTuuouD2558io/the-case-of-jonbenet-ramsey-part-2/

posted September 20, 2016 12:45 PM            

I don't have any significant complaints against this latest vid (though I'd advise people to see others as well to see how much is contradicted by others, and I could point out some of their conclusions are based on sheer speculation--possible, yes, but not necessarily likely, with other possibilities just as likely, and I'd also point out a warning against motivated reasoning, that is tunnel vision to make the evidence fit a predetermined idea, the psychology of which is frightening and has led to the conviction of many innocents), but I thought it worth pointing out a couple of things.

One, if the FBI had reason to believe the DA was covering up a crime, that's something they can investigate and press charges over. More:
http://www.fbi.gov/investigate/public-corruption

Therefore, if the feds walked out as they felt stymied by politics or corruption then the next logical step would be for the FBI to open a case on the DA himself. That this was not done (at least as far as I know) suggests they didn't have a case for that.

Granted, there is a difference between theory and practice and I don't know enough about how the actual practices work out in real life, and I have heard how easy it sometimes is to evade or stymie the FBI, especially when the FBI is investigating crimes in areas they're not familiar with. OTOH, they'd have a lot of motivation to follow up on this, and I've heard how much the cops and DA loathe the FBI because they were treated as suspects at one time or another by the FBI (and the feds are much more likely than Internal Affairs to bust a cop and see the conviction go through).

Furthermore, I believe court orders could be attained in a federal (as opposed to local) court to interrogate the DA, if they have reason to believe a coverup.

Speaking of the legalities, if Burke couldn't be convicted as he was 9 at the time, that would mean that if he was guilty (in the non-legal sense) that the only real reason for secrecy is to protect his parents who had protected him in their panic. It's not like he has a social life, and he's used to being a recluse. IF this is the case, then maybe he will come forward after his father is dead (that is when his parents can't be convicted as accessories).

I found it interesting how Burke escaped into video games. He's not the only little boy I've heard about to have done that over abuse and trauma. I wonder if his working computers now is still his trying to escape what happened, and his own feelings.

Thought I'd also point out that poop smearing isn't that unusual, at least not below the age of 5. After that age then it's more unusual. Of the cases I've read and heard of there was some serious abuse or neglect going on (though I don't think it's counted as a sign of abuse). Not that I'm saying that Burke was abused, just that it makes me wonder, especially as a child acting out violently usually means that a parent does as well (to the frustration of many parents, kids are much more likely to do as parents do rather than as parents say). If a child of mine was doing all that then I'd be looking for help and reasons why.

Bedwetting is also unusual at JB's age as well, though not unknown. It's sometimes seen as a sign of abuse or neglect or fear, though it doesn't have to be. Combined with her brother acting out, I am curious ('course his terrorizing her could account for it as well).

Unfortunately, the media lies as well, and there was some indication that they lied completely about the bed wetting. The poop smearing was also ultimately hearsay. Not sure what to think on that.

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Though I do think the people interviewed targeting Burke are engaging in some motivated reasoning that include assumptions that I thought were interesting (and very plausible) but too speculative, and some of their reasons for why they go down that path is even easily explained from other sources in this thread.

One example is how they say near the end that the parents cut off the police (made it sound like they did so from the start, which is as misleading on their part as they claim the DA was, though motivated reasoning can explain why they'd do this without realizing it) but other sources show they weren't lying about talking to the police, but that, according to the parents, they were told the police were gunning for them which is when they shut down, and rightly so even if they were completely innocent. But this particular crew leaves that out of their speculation and is therefore an unlisted flaw in their hypothesis.

I agree Burke was "overselling" his sleeping. But from what else has been said, I think his parents coached him to be like that. (I also think he'd be sick of all this by then which could explain his attitude, that and his parents, if they coached him, intentionally or unintentionally conveying to Burke that this person interviewing him is an enemy. It's also worth noting that if the parents felt unjustly targeted that they could still coach him and still not have been involved in the death or a coverup. People are quite right not to trust or cooperate with police at times, and being completely innocent can still end in a conviction.)

posted September 27, 2016 09:28 AM            

Rich And Acquitted S01E02 OJ Simpson http://vodlocker.com/2dja35rp36eq

Another wealthy person getting away with murder.