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Graham
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posted September 12, 2020 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I agree if we're able to help someone, we should, but I still maintain that this is provided we're confident about it. I've been to astrologers who attempted to doom my life because I don't have a traditionally nice birth chart so for years I believe this area of my life was doomed. It was not until I saw another astrologer recently who helped me to really understand myself and how to handle the challenges that often recur in my life.

Another scenario is like what you cited above...leaving an observation/advice on the table and up to the recipient to pick it up (or not). I learned in vedic a way to assess a person's receptiveness according to their Moon. Some people tend to take feedback negatively no matter how nicely you package it and especially so if they're going through a challenging transit.

Now I'm not saying we should all zip our mouths unless we attain expert level. LL is a learning and discussion platform so it's still good sharing what we know among members.


I understand what you are saying, and do not disagree.

Hence, I am currently reflecting upon the comments/feedback that has been provided on this thread ... and coming gradually to the conclusion that astrology forums are no longer the right place for me to express my views/opinions/beliefs, or to start/open thread topics - but are perhaps still a place for me to contribute something.

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posted September 12, 2020 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
Originally posted by vansio. Dumuzi and teasel :-

So ... if my topic had been "Saturn, Parents and Childhood Conditioning", posting it on the astrology 2.0 board would have been ok?

Or/and posting it there would have been ok if my opening post had been "Bearing in mind the role of Saturn in childhood conditioning - should parents/guardians raise children to be 'nice' or to be their "warts 'n all self'?"

If so ... I get that now ... but believe Kannon's decision to move the thread was not motivated solely by my failure to understand/observe the forum rules. ... After all, he replied to the thread himself - despite me having not complied with the rules when posting it.


Something like that.

Sweet Peas might have been another forum for this.

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posted September 12, 2020 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Graham

i would assume it wouldn't have been moved if there was some astrological discussion prompt in the topic because then it would've fit the board you chose to post on (personally i don't think anything here moves quickly enough to warrant moving much of anything even if it doesn't fit, because there's so many different places to post and not enough active people so it's sort of like... well who gives a **** really?)

i don't know him to judge, but i know if i were in his position i would probably give it a few to see if it became an astrological discussion before moving it (actually that's not even true i probably would just have left it alone out of a lack of caring, when i've been in places where i've been a mod i just don't actually do anything ever because i generally feel like people should sort their own **** short of anything overtly illegal, but let's pretend i'm the type to care about what goes where for the sake of discussion) rather than immediately shutting down something that was generating discussion on a very slow moving site

that makes the most sense to me, though you phrase that in a way where you seem to think there were other motives (he can be a bit of a killjoy when it comes to arguments/discussions and closing threads when those happen, but i don't think you and i were hitting low enough for that) and i can't personally think of any

you've been here longer, you know him better, i'm sure you have insight i don't (though that doesn't mean you're right necessarily, still i'd humor you enough to listen) so i'm curious why do you think it was moved if not for the reason he gave?

i don't think him posting initially necessarily means much, and technically he gave it a chance for it to become about astrology before he moved it by commenting a second time and saying as much

to me that suggests he was waiting because the topic was intriguing enough for him to be interested and was generating responses, but after some time without that felt it needed to be moved

just my guess though, don't know the guy, can't say anything for sure but it seems pretty cut and dry in my view

as for what you said in another response about feeling like you shouldn't have these discussions here, if you mean LL just in general i disagree because if you have the interest in both astrology and these topics then you're on a site where you have access to accurate charts of the people you're speaking to

in which case you can find your own patterns and **** based on responses even if astrology doesnt come up in the discussion

express whatever you want really, kept me entertained for a bit, i appreciated it

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posted September 12, 2020 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
@Graham

i would assume it wouldn't have been moved if there was some astrological discussion prompt in the topic because then it would've fit the board you chose to post on (personally i don't think anything here moves quickly enough to warrant moving much of anything even if it doesn't fit, because there's so many different places to post and not enough active people so it's sort of like... well who gives a **** really?)

i don't know him to judge, but i know if i were in his position i would probably give it a few to see if it became an astrological discussion before moving it (actually that's not even true i probably would just have left it alone out of a lack of caring, when i've been in places where i've been a mod i just don't actually do anything ever because i generally feel like people should sort their own **** short of anything overtly illegal, but let's pretend i'm the type to care about what goes where for the sake of discussion) rather than immediately shutting down something that was generating discussion on a very slow moving site

that makes the most sense to me, though you phrase that in a way where you seem to think there were other motives (he can be a bit of a killjoy when it comes to arguments/discussions and closing threads when those happen, but i don't think you and i were hitting low enough for that) and i can't personally think of any

you've been here longer, you know him better, i'm sure you have insight i don't (though that doesn't mean you're right necessarily, still i'd humor you enough to listen) so i'm curious why do you think it was moved if not for the reason he gave?

i don't think him posting initially necessarily means much, and technically he gave it a chance for it to become about astrology before he moved it by commenting a second time and saying as much

to me that suggests he was waiting because the topic was intriguing enough for him to be interested and was generating responses, but after some time without that felt it needed to be moved

just my guess though, don't know the guy, can't say anything for sure but it seems pretty cut and dry in my view

as for what you said in another response about feeling like you shouldn't have these discussions here, if you mean LL just in general i disagree because if you have the interest in both astrology and these topics then you're on a site where you have access to accurate charts of the people you're speaking to

in which case you can find your own patterns and **** based on responses even if astrology doesnt come up in the discussion

express whatever you want really, kept me entertained for a bit, i appreciated it



I was hearing from you what I needed to hear about myself ... And listening because you were criticising rationally rather than emotionally. ... Moreover, what you say above about Kannon makes sense - although I still think he may have been motivated to move the thread for some reason other than just "this topic does not belong on the astrology 2.0 board".

Thank you for participating in the discussion ... (and thanks to everyone else that has done so, as it has clarified things considerably for me.)

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posted September 12, 2020 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Something like that.

Sweet Peas might have been another forum for this.


Thanks, teasel.

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posted September 12, 2020 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Graham

np thanks for having an interesting topic, could use more of those so you shouldn't let this put you off of starting them

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posted September 12, 2020 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Dumuzi, I still feel the need to explain myself, until I hit a wall, or just remember that I donít have to do that.

i'm learning to move past it, going to take a bit but i recognize the issue at least

i'm very grateful to have people in my life who will point that **** out so i can address and correct it

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posted September 13, 2020 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Graham .....

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posted September 13, 2020 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Graham .....

Thank you, mirage.

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posted April 11, 2021 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump ... to enable me to find this thread later.

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