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jwhop
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posted May 06, 2009 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
First, the government and the Federal Reserve will not reveal where all those TARP funds went....and now, O'Bomber has broken his promise to post where all the Porkulus money is being spent.

They say it's really, really, really hard to track all that money but that's bullshiiit. Don't they even know to whom the money is being given, how much and what the justification for doling it all out actually is?

The fact is there are many recipients of this Porkulus money whom if Americans knew they were getting money from the public treasury, the public would be pi$$ed. One of those recipients is the group joined at the hip with O'Bomber. The group...ACORN who has for years attempted to overthrow the election process and they're getting between 3 and 5 BIILLION dollars. ACORN management and some workers were also just indicted for violations of US election laws.

What was it O'Bomber promised? Oh yeah, now I remember...."We're going to track every dime of Stimulus/Porkulus money.

Details thin on stimulus contracts
KEEPING TRACK

USA TODAY
By Matt Kelley, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON —

Although President Obama has vowed that citizens will be able to track "every dime" of the $787 billion stimulus bill, a government website dedicated to the spending won't have details on contracts and grants until October and may not be complete until next spring — halfway through the program, administration officials said.

Recovery.gov now lists programs being funded by the stimulus money, but provides no details on who received the grants and contracts. Agencies won't report that data until Oct. 10, according to Earl Devaney, chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, which manages the website.

Devaney told a House subcommittee Tuesday that it will be a challenge to have the site ready to present spending data in five months. He said after the hearing that the board doesn't have enough data storage capacity, for example.

Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia, a Republican serving on the House Science and Technology subcommittee, criticized the administration's decision to require reporting of only the first two recipients of stimulus spending. Broun said that means if the money goes to a state and then a city, the identities of the city's contractors will be unavailable.

Devaney said that after the first data become available in October, the board will wait six to nine months for the White House Office of Management and Budget to issue new guidance on how far down the spending chain the money must be tracked. "I'm going to push them for as much data as possible," he said.

Devaney's spokeswoman, Nancy DiPaolo, said the website may not be completed until next spring.

The board solicited ideas for the site last week during an online "national dialogue" that drew 542 ideas and 1,330 comments. The suggestions included adding mapping tools and other software to allow users to search the data.

People accustomed to getting easily searchable information quickly could be frustrated, said Greg Elin of the Sunlight Foundation, which is part of a coalition pressing for better access to spending data. "If we have to wait until October to get the information or to the end of the year to get a powerful recovery.gov site, the Obama administration will have missed an important opportunity," Elin said.

The site currently lists total amounts available and already spent — as of last week, $72.2 billion available and $15.4 billion spent. There's also an interactive map showing allocations for each state.

As with all federal contracts, information about stimulus contracts is available on the Federal Procurement Data System's website, but that data is not available on recovery.gov.

In addition, 29 federal departments and agencies provide stimulus spending information. The quality of those websites varies, from a list of news releases and planning reports from the Justice Department to a chart detailing major programs and a clickable map with state-level funding figures on the Energy Department's site.

The 50 state stimulus websites also differ. Most of Mississippi's site, for example, is taken up by a message from Republican Gov. Haley Barbour noting he opposed the stimulus.

Texas, by contrast, has a site featuring links to information about applying for stimulus grants and contracts.

Elin said the Obama administration is moving relatively quickly to gather and present massive amounts of data. Nevertheless, executives at Onvia, which collects government contracting information for its clients, are skeptical that recovery.gov can meet the administration's goals. Onvia, which is posting stimulus-related data on its recovery.org website, took much longer to develop its systems, said Eric Gillespie, Onvia's chief information officer.

"It's really, really hard," Gillespie said, "and it's taken us 10 years to figure out."
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2009-05-06-stimulus_N.htm


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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted May 07, 2009 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
you silly silly.
it says right in that article they will release the information October 10th.

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jwhop
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posted May 07, 2009 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Wrong Cpn.

"Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia, a Republican serving on the House Science and Technology subcommittee, criticized the administration's decision to require reporting of only the first two recipients of stimulus spending. Broun said that means if the money goes to a state and then a city, the identities of the city's contractors will be unavailable."

This doesn't jibe with O'Bomber's promise to track every dime.

October is not "next spring".

Devaney's spokeswoman, Nancy DiPaolo, said the website may not be completed until next spring.

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katatonic
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posted May 07, 2009 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
well maybe you could offer your services to streamline the process and get the info out to everyone! easy peasy right?

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katatonic
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posted May 07, 2009 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
doppelganger.

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jwhop
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posted May 07, 2009 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Have not the slightest intention of lifting my smallest finger to help the ONE, The Messiah, O'Bomber.

One would think THE ONE could at least keep his word when he makes promises to America.

Oh, but wait; O'Bomber made a lot of promises to get himself elected and doesn't need to keep those promises now. The O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers are cool with his lies.

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katatonic
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posted May 07, 2009 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i still haven't had an answer to what this continuous reference to kool-aid is? apart from a nice little catchphrase that even i have heard hannity using as my dial sails past his station?

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katatonic
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posted May 07, 2009 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
and yes i can see that you would much rather play the blame game than correct the situation. it's all about your precious "One" isn't it, and nothing to do with making anything better.

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posted May 07, 2009 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
First, the government and the Federal Reserve will not reveal where all those TARP funds went
yeah, before Nov 2008 as well. Let's see do we really want to go down the GW list of Federal Reserve Chairmans? And performance? And protections?

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jwhop
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posted May 07, 2009 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
O'Bomber isn't about making anything better. O'Bomber is all about remaking America in the Marxist Socialist image. So, O'Bomber will get no help from me but will get a hell of a lot of resistance.

That's a good point Node. TARP was enacted prior to the November 2008 elections...and had Bush and McCain support too.

However, calls for accounting for the distribution of TARP funds didn't happen for some time after the elections.

I would remind you Timothy Franz Geithner, Treasury Sec and also involved in the stonewalling is an O'Bomber appointee. The very same appointee who committed Income Tax Evasion and is now in charge of the IRS.

There were only 2 Fed Chairmen under Bush.

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katatonic
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posted May 07, 2009 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
you forgot the koolaid again...? and you are resisting - how? by complaining?

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mercuranian
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posted May 07, 2009 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message
By kool-aid I think he means Obamas meaningless rhetoric and repetitive mantras (you know the lies he's constantly spewing). That's my guess.

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posted May 07, 2009 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message
or, the drink of the ghetto...or the the Jim Jones Flava flav.

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katatonic
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posted May 07, 2009 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
oh yes, i forgot he's supposed to have hypnotized the whole country to get elected.

what i can't figure out is why you give him so much credit, jwhop. listening to you anyone would think he was superman.

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jwhop
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posted May 08, 2009 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
"By kool-aid I think he means Obamas meaningless rhetoric and repetitive mantras (you know the lies he's constantly spewing). That's my guess."

Good guess mercuranian

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jwhop
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posted May 10, 2009 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
"you forgot the koolaid again...? and you are resisting - how? by complaining?"..katatonic

Perhaps you missed the thread where I said I've O'Bomber proofed my life...to the degree possible.

Not only I but many others, including business owners are not going to give an ounce of help to this Marxist Socialist regime. We're damned tired of pulling the wagon filled to the brim and running over with loafers lined up for government largess. That includes Chrysler and GM as well as individuals. I don't have a Chrysler product but I do have a GM auto in the garage. There will be no more Chrysler or GM autos registered to jwhop. Since Ford told O'Bomber to take his bailout money and stuff it where the sun don't shine, Ford goes right to the top of my list. Now, if the loafers and other O'Bomberites want this economy to go, they're going to to have to get off their dead as$es and go to work producing something of value...for a change.

Neither will I do business with those Socialists who helped bring in the O'Bomber regime...like Peter Lewis of the Progressive Insurance Co...or any other, like General Electric.

We are going to clean house in the Republican party and it's already started. I've sent scathing letters...for some time now, about the RINOs in the Republican party. Some of the RINOs have had the good sense to not run for reelection. Chuck Hagel, John Warner and Mel Martinez come readily to mind. I ripped their a@ses to the RNC and in personal correspondence. Charlie Crist..Governor of Florida is another target. Imagine a so called conservative Republican Governor going to an O'Bomber bailout party event and introducing O'Bomber to Florida voters and constituents. Then, there's Arlen Specter or as some call him Arlen Sphincter. The heat was turned up so high on Senator Sphincter's as$ he jumped party.

I and others are not going to feed the Socialist beast. We've adopted a minimalist approach to income and as you see businesses downsizing and closing across America with the attendant layoffs perhaps you'll understand we have no intention of being robbed of the fruits of our productive labor to further a Marxist Socialist welfare state.

Now katatonic, there are also other measures but what I've listed is a hell of a lot more than the mere "complaining" you apparently believe is going on.

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katatonic
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posted May 10, 2009 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for answering. question 2: what do you think of elizabeth I of england?

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jwhop
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posted May 10, 2009 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think aobut Elizabeth the 1st at all.

How often do you read Das Kapital?

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katatonic
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posted May 10, 2009 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i don't read it at all. your point? you will find why i mentioned the old queen next door.

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jwhop
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posted May 10, 2009 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
You should read Das Kapital. Since you're an apologist for Socialist government, you'd at least have some idea of where O'Bomber is heading.

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katatonic
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posted May 10, 2009 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
sweetheart i am an apologist for no one. wherever did you get that idea? i just can't stand pigheaded people who won't admit their way isn't the only way and everything else is the devil's. bye

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jwhop
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posted May 10, 2009 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
All you've done here is rationalize Socialist behavior...including the behavior of O'Bomber and the feckless brain dead Socialist democrats...not to mention, the abject failure of European Socialism. You've even compared the United States unfavorably with Socialist Europe.

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katatonic
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posted May 10, 2009 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
one last time. i have objected time and again to your exaggerated claims. i have pointed out that there is more to the picture than you are willing to see. that not all europeans would live here given a choice. i have lived in europe. i know that there are miserable people there, as here, and that GDP is not the only barometer of happiness. i have also lived in america. and it is not the paradise you seem to think it is. there is good and bad on every side. there are good socialists and bad ones. good capitalists and bad. but a closed mind never learns anything except what it already has chosen. don't forget that it is our form of government that made it possible for the heathens in power to get there. and that this argument has been running almost as long as there has been a USA.

AND that there seems to be no more point in talking to you about it at all.

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jwhop
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posted May 10, 2009 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Still rationalizing Socialism katatonic.

Apparently you don't have a clue what you are attempting to rationalize away.

Don't try putting words in my mouth. I never said all Europeans would come here to live given the chance.

If you think there's anything good about the United States you haven't shared those thoughts.

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carl
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posted May 11, 2009 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message
I have always said, Obama and Bush, two peas in the same pod.

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