posted July 23, 2009 05:45 AM         

most of it had to do with, there is no law that requires one to pay income tax.

i challenge you to find such a law if there is one.

what i found interseting about this flick was the reference to 1913 when they instituted this income tax, the names on the original founders of the process.

david icke and cospiricay theorists do have one thing in common. it all seems to come back to the illumiti (sp) and the families that are listed are the same family names dowm through the years. and the same family names that are associated with the CDC and the mandatory vaccination that is probobly being organsied while the good folks of america sleep tight in thier beds.

i find it interesting that this video made its way into my hands as i have just started really comtemplating these things.

posted July 23, 2009 03:30 PM         

but be careful not to let the paranoia suck you in.

the constitution DOES provide for congress to have the power "to levy taxes" etc, and that is what they fall back on...

posted July 23, 2009 04:33 PM         

Further, all such taxes are to be apportioned among the states...by a matter of simple division where the tax load is assessed by means of population where everyone pays exactly the same amount of taxes and those taxes apply only if excise taxes, imposts and duties are not sufficient to run the government for the budgeted year.

The 16th Amendment changed that somewhat but an income tax is not supposed to be a tax on productive labor..salaries and wages but on "income" or profit from engaging in business activity.

One doesn't derive a profit from trading the minutes, hours, days, months and years of their lives for money. That's an equal exchange...something for something and it's not "income".

In business, a profit is made by buying widgets at $1.00 and selling those same widgets at $2.00. That's a profit and that's taxable income. The income tax was instituted to tax corporations engaged in business activity.

An income tax was struck down by the US Supreme Court in 1893 because...among other reasons, the law tried to tax the wages and salaries of individuals.

Further complicating the issue is the 1040 form itself which must be signed or the IRS considers you didn't file a tax return. Problem is the 1040 has a warning statement you are signing under penalty of perjury that your so called "income" is correct and that your offsetting deductions from income are correct.

Problem with that is that no one can be compelled to be a witness against themselves...5th Amendment..and therefore no one can be compelled to sign anything at all under penalty of perjury where they can be prosecuted for inaccuracies or outright lying. The US Supreme Court has ruled that those filing and signing a tax return are witnesses within the meaning of the 5th Amendment to the Constitution.

It is a correct statement that there is no law to be found making the filing of an "Individual" income tax form mandatory. It's not found anywhere in the tax code or the rest of the codified laws of the United States.

Though many have asked the IRS and asked the Justice Department to show them THE LAW which requires an individual to file an income tax return; that hasn't happened and no one has ever found any such law in the legal codes of the United States...and believe me, the laws have been gone over with a fine toothed comb and it's just not there.

A statement on the income tax booklet states that the US tax system is based on "self assessment" and "VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE"

That which is "voluntary" cannot be "mandatory".

Nevertheless, I encourage everyone to pay every penny of "income tax" they owe. I do.

posted July 24, 2009 06:07 AM         

there is no such law
paying it is voluntary
you go to jail if you dont pay the indiviadual voluntary income tax

thanks for clearing that up.

jwhops, how can you call anyone a sheep? i pay my taxes too. yippie yahoo. i could uses that money, i pay tax on everything else i own buy, drive, live in, and everything else i use (usage tax), we should collectively swollow this bucket of crap they feed us and carry on. after all, it is voluntary but you don't want to go to prison. i cant believe in all of america there is no attorney smart enough to challenge and make them define voluntary and release the federal prisoners who didnt volunteer there personal income for tax. after all, it cost quite a bit of money to subsidize a prison.

posted July 24, 2009 06:13 AM         

non violent offenders should be on work crews at the local level and save our over buget broke states money for road work etc. then they pay for themselves. house in prison systems violent offenders. more work programs. if they stole, they should have to work thier aSHes off and learn how to give and not take. VIOLA - rehabilitated

we are all sheep.

posted July 24, 2009 07:01 AM         

44 years and my life is still
Trying to get up that great big hill of hope
For a destination
I realized quickly when I knew I should
That the whole world's MADE UP OF this brotherhood of man
FOR whatever that means

And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed
Just to get it all out, what's in my head
And I, I am feeling a little peculiar
And so I wake in the morning and I step outside
And I take A deep breath and I get real high
And I scream from the top of my lungs,
What's goin' on

And I say hey.... hey....
I said hey, what's goin' on
And I say hey.... hey....
I said hey, what's goin' on

And I try, oh my God, do I try
I try all the time in this institution
And I pray, oh my God, do I pray
I pray every single day FOR A REVOLUTION!

And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed
Just to get it all out, what's in my head
And I, I am feeling a little peculiar
And so I wake in the morning and I step outside
And I take deep breath and I get real high
And I scream from the top of my lungs,
WHAT'S GOIN' ON!!

And I say hey.... hey....
I said hey, what's goin' on
And I say hey.... hey....
I said hey, what's goin' on
And I say hey.... hey....
I said hey, what's goin' on
And I say hey.... hey....
I said hey, what's goin' on

posted July 24, 2009 12:39 PM         

it is also interesting to me that in cali, for instance, where medical pot and growing same are legal, but the feds say NOT, not only the state but the federal government are collecting taxes from the retailers. of course they could make more if they legally "recognized" said businesses, but they are still getting millions off a business they say can't and doesn't exist. go figure.

i also agree with your prison-work idea, since it costs about 30 grand a year to keep an inmate why not get them to do 30 grand's worth of work for our broke states? maybe too simple an idea to occur to our politicians unless they get a rash of suggestions from their peeps...

posted July 24, 2009 02:22 PM         

never read kafka...good stuff?

it seems i am always too busy swimming against the current to sit down and read anymore. going with the flow is so much better and eaisier, someday if i just learn that i will be doing good.

posted July 24, 2009 04:46 PM         

it's off-topic
.. happened to see this whilst looking for something else ..

( i went looking as to why the IG Farben plant in WW2 Germany wasn't bombed
( i always thought it was because they knew about the slave labourers working there.
( i also looked up IG Farben at Wiki to see if something was noted there

and .. i've no idea how accurate or not .. or how credible the site is ..
but .. be the first time i've heard of fascist plot to overthrow the usa govenment ..

'The Lead Up to World War 2'
~ http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2-background.htm ~

posted July 27, 2009 04:56 AM         

quote:

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Nevertheless, I encourage everyone to pay every penny of "income tax" they owe.

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It's this part: they owe

I don't get this part, jwhop.

What, exactly, does anybody owe to the Federal Reserve -- which, as Russo points out, is about as "federal" as Federal Express. Where does that money go? According to the documentary, it goes to private bankers. Con men. So, what's really going on here?

posted July 27, 2009 11:13 AM         

what we are going through now is not a failing of business or even the government's fault, although they wittingly or unwittingly certainly help!

the book is a little anti-jewish but if you add a few now well-known names it still reads very well.

posted July 27, 2009 01:18 PM         

I don't get this part, jwhop.

Hmmm Valus, given all I said about the so called income tax NOT being a tax on the productive labor...wages and salaries of
Americans but rather a tax on profits..which is "income".

The only way wages and salaries could be income would be if the IRS computes the productive labor of Americans to have NO Value. In that computation anything received in wages and salaries would be "income"..a profit from spending the worthless minutes, days, weeks, months and years of ones life engaged in employment and being rewarded for their "worthless efforts" with "money/income"..a profit.

Btw, the IRS does compute productive labor to have zero value in their calculus...and therefore anything you receive from an employer is "income", and therefore taxable...so they would have you believe.

Let me repeat.