posted August 04, 2009 08:45 AM         

"For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)"

posted August 04, 2009 10:32 AM         

What do the Birther's expect to accomplish with this movement?

Kenya officials have shaken their heads at ludicrous Americans who listen to such nonsense.

posted August 04, 2009 11:07 AM         

A fact you would have known if you had bothered to read the accompanying article.

I know that's hard for O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinking "deniers" to do. After all, those in denial about O'Bomber have a lot invested in O'Bomber Kool-Aid.

However, you failed to even speak to the legal aspects of the section of the US Code dealing with citizenship.

Now Node, put you mind in gear and tell me how O'Bomber's mother, who was 18 when O'Bomber was born, managed to spend 5 years in the US...AFTER SHE TURNED 14...but before O'Bomber was born.

Let's see...
14+1=15
15+1=16
16+1=17
17+1=18
18+1=19

posted August 04, 2009 11:42 AM         

to me it looks very much like an AMERICAN, not English, birth certificate. and kenya was an ENGLISH province until it became a republic. the national language of kenya is NOT english. so it smells just like kippers to me!

posted August 04, 2009 02:23 PM         

WASHINGTON – California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.

This document purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth for Barack Obama, allegedly born in Mombasa, Kenya, in 1961

the one jwhop put in the other thread

One of the issues Taitz must deal with will be the authentication of the document. Critics immediately jumped on the Feb. 17, 1964, date for the document, explaining that the "republic" of Kenya wasn't assembled until in December of that year.

Media Matters wrote, "Sorry, WorldNetDaily: Kenya wasn't a republic until Dec. 1964."

But Kenya's official independence was in 1963, and any number of labels could have been applied to government documents during that time period.

At Ameriborn Constitution News, the researcher noted that the independence process for the nation actually started taking as early as 1957, when there were the first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council.

"Kenya became an Independent Republic, December 12, 1963, which gives more [credibility] that this is a true document," the website stated.

The 1963 independence is corroborated by several other information sources

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

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posted August 05, 2009 04:13 PM         

One nice thing about the USA is the right to seek/speak/publish. Or call it that freedom of speech thingy

How do you propose his intent could create a military coup?

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posted August 06, 2009 12:37 AM         

i don't need to know his agenda to see the possible outcome. i am not saying this WILL happen, but the logical conclusion to setting up obama's lack of technical citizenship is that NO ONE in the armed forces need consider him the boss. hopefully most of the armed forces are not as gullible the people who believe this muck just because someone says so!

i wonder what will happen if it is? and how it can be definitively proven? do you think any of the people who are pushing so hard against this guy really want what will come next?

internet pictures are easily photoshopped and forged. that is why you can't use ONLINE id as proof of anything.

i guess we will have to wait and see. but the more people keep at it the more the lynch mobs rumble. instead of trying to make him out to be a martian or the new hitler wouldn't it be better if people used the system they say they're so dedicated to to change things? this is just a vendetta and THAT is what i don't like.

posted August 06, 2009 01:07 PM         

in case anyone has forgotten, a signature is a HANDWRITTEN thing, unique to the signer. looks to me like this thing was typed over by someone who is used to being online rather than doing things in person, like they were back then, and especially in kenya! in any case it is highly suspicious in terms of authentification.

maybe that is because this is a copy?

in any case, as jwhop has often pointed out, it is up to the prosecution/accuser to PROVE their claim. all defense has to do is present enough doubt to make it unprovable...

but tell me, why if they wanted to pretend he was born in hawaii, to ensure his american citizenship status, would they register him in kenya? and does anyone here know HOW FEW KENYAN CHILDREN WERE BORN IN HOSPITALS in those days? in the bush was more likely! or at the least in the home with grandma attending.

posted August 07, 2009 09:45 AM         

Instead, they call that a "technicality" and want to talk about "something else".

Let me help those out who cannot do the simple math. The citizenship law said it was necessary for a US citizen parent to have lived in the US 5 years after the age of 14...to confer automatic US citizenship on their child. O'Bomber's mother was 18 when he was born.

Gee, I don't know what to make of this.

It keeps coming out the same way. O'Bomber's mother would have had to be 19 when O'Bomber was born to confer automatic US citizenship on O'Bomber...not 18.

Let's see...
14+1=15
15+1=16
16+1=17
17+1=18
18+1=19

posted August 07, 2009 11:55 AM         

innocent till proven guilty, jwhop. no one has authenticated this SUPPOSED kenyan certificate. Under US law the burden of proof rests with the accuser.