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Glaucus
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posted September 07, 2009 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Realism over idealism.

Hitler was hardly an "idealist" in the sense that political scientists use the term. The standard definition of an idealist is someone who believes that cooperation and peaceful coexistence can occur among peoples. A realist, however, is someone who sees the world as an unstable and dangerous place, and prepares for war, if not to deter it, then to survive it. It goes without saying that Hitler was one of the greatest realists of all time. Nonetheless, Hitler had his own twisted utopia, which he described:

"We are not simple enough, either, to believe that it could ever be possible to bring about a perfect era. But this relieves no one of the obligation to combat recognized errors, to overcome weaknesses, and strive for the ideal. Harsh reality of its own accord will create only too many limitations. For that very reason, however, man must try to serve the ultimate goal, and failures must not deter him, any more than he can abandon a system of justice merely because mistakes creep into it…" (40)

"The same boy who feels like throwing up when he hears the tirades of a pacifist 'idealist' is ready to give up his life for the ideal of his nationality." (41)

Nationalism over internationalism.

"The nationalization of our masses will succeed only when… their international poisoners are exterminated." (42)

"The severest obstacle to the present-day worker's approach to the national community lies not in the defense of his class interests, but in his international leadership and attitude which are hostile to the people and the fatherland." (43)

"Thus, the reservoir from which the young [Nazi] movement must gather its supporters will primarily be the masses of our workers. Its work will be to tear these away from the international delusion… and lead them to the national community…" (44)

Exclusiveness over inclusiveness.

"Thus men without exception wander about in the garden of Nature; they imagine that they know practically everything and yet with few exceptions pass blindly by one of the most patent principles of Nature: the inner segregation of the species of all living beings on earth." (45)

"The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which, fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its will against all others." (46)

Meat-eating over vegetarianism.

It may seem ridiculous to include this issue in a review of Hitler's politics, but, believe it or not, conservatives on the Internet frequently equate Hitler's vegetarianism with the vegetarianism practised by liberals concerned about the environment and the ethical treatment of animals.

Hitler's vegetarianism had nothing to do with his political beliefs. He became a vegetarian shortly after the death of his girlfriend and half-niece, Geli Raubal. Their relationship was a stormy one, and it ended in her apparent suicide. There were rumors that Hitler had arranged her murder, but Hitler would remain deeply distraught over her loss for the rest of his life. As one historian writes:

"Curiously, shortly after her death, Hitler looked with disdain on a piece of ham being served during breakfast and refused to eat it, saying it was like eating a corpse. From that moment on, he refused to eat meat." (47)

Hitler's vegetarianism, then, was no more than a phobia, triggered by an association with his niece's death.

Gun ownership over gun control

Perhaps one of the pro-gun lobby's favorite arguments is that if German citizens had had the right to keep and bear arms, Hitler would have never been able to tyrannize the country. And to this effect, pro-gun advocates often quote the following:

"1935 will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." - Adolf Hitler

However, this quote is almost certainly a fraud. There is no reputable record of him ever making it: neither at the Nuremberg rallies, nor in any of his weekly radio addresses. Furthermore, there was no reason for him to even make such a statement; for Germany already had strict gun control as a term of surrender in the Treaty of Versailles. The Allies had wanted to make Germany as impotent as possible, and one of the ways they did that was to disarm its citizenry. Only a handful of local authorities were allowed arms at all, and the few German citizens who did possess weapons were already subject to full gun registration. Seen in this light, the above quote makes no sense whatsoever.

The Firearms Policy Journal (January 1997) writes:

"The Nazi Party did not ride to power confiscating guns. They rode to power on the inability of the Weimar Republic to confiscate their guns. They did not consolidate their power confiscating guns either. There is no historical evidence that Nazis ever went door to door in Germany confiscating guns. The Germans had a fetish about paperwork and documented everything. These searches and confiscations would have been carefully recorded. If the documents are there, let them be presented as evidence."

On April 12, 1928, five years before Hitler seized power, Germany passed the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law substantially tightened restrictions on gun ownership in an effort to curb street violence between Nazis and Communists. The law was ineffectual and poorly enforced. It was not until March 18, 1938 -- five years after Hitler came to power -- that the Nazis passed the German Weapons Law, their first known change in the firearm code. And this law actually relaxed restrictions on citizen firearms.

Common sense over theory or science.

Hitler was notorious for his anti-intellectualism:

"The youthful brain should in general not be burdened with things ninety-five percent of which it cannot use and hence forgets again… In many cases, the material to be learned in the various subjects is so swollen that only a fraction of it remains in the head of the individual pupil, and only a fraction of this abundance can find application, while on the other hand it is not adequate for the man working and earning his living in a definite field." (48)

"Knowledge above the average can be crammed into the average man, but it remains dead, and in the last analysis sterile knowledge. The result is a man who may be a living dictionary but nevertheless falls down miserably in all special situations and decisive moments in life." (49)

"The folkish state must not adjust its entire educational work primarily to the inoculation of mere knowledge, but to the breeding of absolutely healthy bodies. The training of mental abilities is only secondary. And here again, first place must be taken by the development of character, especially the promotion of will-power and determination, combined with the training of joy in responsibility, and only in last place comes scientific schooling." (50)

"A people of scholars, if they are physically degenerate, weak-willed and cowardly pacifists, will not storm the heavens, indeed, they will not be able to safeguard their existence on this earth." (51)

Pragmatism over principle.

"The question of the movement's inner organization is one of expediency and not of principle." (52)

Religion over secularism.

Hitler's views on religion were complex. Although ostensibly an atheist, he considered himself a cultural Catholic, and frequently evoked God, the Creator and Providence in his writings. Throughout his life he would remain an envious admirer of the Christian Church and its power over the masses. Here is but one example:

"We can learn by the example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice… comes into collision with exact science and research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one little syllable of its dogmas. It has recognized quite correctly that its power of resistance does not lie in its lesser or greater adaptation to the scientific findings of the moment, which in reality are always fluctuating, but rather in rigidly holding to dogmas once established, for it is only such dogmas which lend to the whole body the character of faith. And so it stands today more firmly than ever." (53)

Hitler also saw a useful purpose for the Church:

"The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; precisely for the masses, [religious] faith is often the sole foundation of a moral attitude… For the political man, the value of a religion must be estimated less by its deficiencies than by the virtue of a visibly better substitute. As long as this appears to be lacking, what is present can be demolished only by fools or criminals." (54)

Hitler thus advocated freedom of religious belief. Although he would later press churches into the service of Nazism, often at the point of a gun, Hitler did not attempt to impose a state religion or mandate the basic philosophical content of German religions. As long as they did not interfere with his program, he allowed them to continue fuctioning. And this policy was foreshadowed in his writings:

"For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of his people must always remain inviolable; or else he has no right to be in politics…" (55)

"Political parties have nothing to do with religious problems, as long as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the scheming of political parties." (56)

"Worst of all, however, is the devastation wrought by the misuse of religious conviction for political ends." (57)

"Therefore, let every man be active, each in his own denomination if you please, and let every man take it as his first and most sacred duty to oppose anyone who in his activity by word or deed steps outside the confines of his religious community and tries to butt into the other." (58)

Hitler was raised a Catholic, even going to school for two years at the monastery at Lambauch, Austria. As late as 24 he still called himself a Catholic, but somewhere along the way he became an atheist. It is highly doubtful that this was an intellectual decision, as a reading of his disordered thoughts in Mein Kampf will attest. The decision was most likely a pragmatic one, based on power and personal ambition. Bullock reveals an interesting anecdote showing how these considerations worked on the young Hitler. After five years of eking out a miserable existence in Vienna and four years of war, Hitler walked into his first German Worker's Party meeting:

"'Under the dim light shed by a grimy gas-lamp I could see four people sitting around a table…' As Hitler frankly acknowledges, this very obscurity was an attraction. It was only in a party which, like himself, was beginning at the bottom that he had any prospect of playing a leading part and imposing his ideas. In the established parties there was no room for him, he would be a nobody." (59)

Hitler probably realized that a frustrated artist and pipe-dreamer like himself would have no chance of achieving power in the world-wide, 2000-year old Christian Church. It was most likely for this reason that he rejected Christianity and pursued a political life instead. Yet, curiously enough, he never renounced his membership in the Catholic Church, and the Church never excommunicated him. Nor did the Church place his Mein Kampf on the Index of Prohibited Books, in spite of its knowledge of his atrocities. Later the Church would come under intense criticism for its friendly and cooperative relationship with Hitler. A brief review of this history is instructive.

In 1933, the Catholic Center Party cast its large and decisive vote in favor of Hitler's Enabling Bill. This bill essentially gave Chancellor Hitler the sweeping dictatorial powers he was seeking. Historian Guenter Lewy describes a meeting between Hitler and the German Catholic authorities shortly afterwards:

"On 26 April 1933 Hitler had a conversation with Bishop Berning and Monsignor Steinmann [the Catholic leadership in Germany]. The subject was the common fight against liberalism, Socialism and Bolshevism, discussed in the friendliest terms. In the course of the conversation Hitler said that he was only doing to the Jews what the church had done to them over the past fifteen hundred years. The prelates did not contradict him." (60)

As anyone familiar with Christian history knows, the Church has always been a primary source of anti-Semitism. Hitler's anti-Semitism therefore found a receptive audience among Catholic authorities. The Church also had an intense fear and hatred of Russian communism, and Hitler's attack on Russia was the best that could have happened. The Jesuit Michael Serafin wrote: "It cannot be denied that [Pope] Pius XII's closest advisors for some time regarded Hitler's armoured divisions as the right hand of God." (61) As Pope Pius himself would say after Germany conquered Poland: "Let us end this war between brothers and unite our forces against the common enemy of atheism" -- Russia. (62)

Once Hitler assumed power, he signed a Concordat, or agreement, with the Catholic Church. Eugenio Pacelli (the man who would eventually become Pope Pius XII) was the Vatican diplomat who drew up the Concordat, and he considered it a triumph. In return for promises which Hitler increasingly broke, the Church dissolved all Catholic organizations in Germany, including the Catholic Center Party. Bishops were to take an oath of loyalty to the Nazi regime. Clergy were to see to the pastoral care of Germany's armed forces (regardless of what those armed forces did). (63)

The Concordat eliminated all Catholic resistance to Hitler; after this, the German bishops gave Hitler their full and unqualified support. A bishops' conference at Fulda, 1933, resulted in agreement with Hitler's case for extending Lebensraum, or German territory. (64) Bishop Bornewasser told a congregation of Catholic young people at Trier: "With our heads high and with firm steps we have entered the new Reich and are ready to serve it body and soul." (65) Vicar-General Steinman greeted each Berlin mass with the shout, "Heil Hitler!" (66)

Hitler, on the other hand, kept up his attack on the Church. Nazi bands stormed into the few remaining Catholic institutions, beat up Catholic youths and arrested Catholic officials. The Vatican was dismayed, but it did not protest. (67) In some instances, it was hard to tell if the Church supported its own persecution. Hitler muzzled the independent Catholic press (about 400 daily papers in 1933) and subordinated it to Goebbels' Ministry of Propaganda and Enlightenment. Yet soon the Catholic Press was doing more than what the Nazis required of it -- for example, coordinating their Nazi propaganda to prepare the people for the 1940 offensive against the West. (68) Throughout the war, the Catholic press would remain one of the Third Reich's best disseminators of propaganda.

Pacelli became the new Pope Pius XII in 1939, and he immediately improved relations with Hitler. He broke protocol by personally signing a letter in German to Hitler expressing warm hopes of friendly relations. Shortly afterwards, the Church celebrated Hitler's birthday by ringing bells, flying swastika flags from church towers and holding thanksgiving services for the Fuhrer. (69) Ringing church bells to celebrate and affirm the bishops' allegiance to the Reich would become quite common throughout the war; after the German army conquered France, the church bells rang for an entire week, and swastikas flew over the churches for ten days.

But perhaps the greatest failure of Pope Pius XII was his silence over the Holocaust, even though he knew it was in progress. Although there are many heroic stories of Catholics helping Jews survive the Holocaust, they do not include Pope Pius, the Holy See, or the German Catholic authorities. When a reporter asked Pius why he did not protest the liquidation of the Jews, the Pope answered, "Dear friend, do not forget that millions of Catholics are serving in the German armies. Am I to involve them in a conflict of conscience?" (70) As perhaps the world's greatest moral leader, he was charged with precisely that responsibility.

The history of Hitler and the Church reveals a relationship built on mutual distrust and philosophical rejection, but also shared goals, benefits, admiration, envy, friendliness, and ultimate alliance.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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posted September 07, 2009 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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Acoustic thinks I've warmed to Hitler...a leftist Socialist dictator...and one of your guys acoustic.

Fat chance.


You've always been closer to him than I could ever be (as we've discussed on several occasions). I'm just surprised that you're suddenly perfectly ok with Hitler being used in political propaganda.

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You're the guy who would have bowed down to Hitler acoustic.

I'm the guy who would have put a bullet in his freaking head.

I know you get confused easily acoustic but Hitler was a murderous Socialist Dictator; one of your boys and the very kind of person I despise most in this world.

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I think Hitler would have got you before you got him, and I don't bow to any overly nationalistic, close-minded, prone to violence, fixed personality.

We've been over what Hitler was many many times. You've never come remotely close to convincing anyone much less me of your ideas of his Socialism. He doesn't resemble anyone of the Left in America. He does resemble the intolerant. He does resemble the those that believe their country is the infallible best. He does resemble those who would initiate war unprovoked. He does resemble those who cling to imaginaary enemies. By any objective measure, that aligns with the Right more than the Left in America. How many of these traits do you share with him? Most of them. So if you're like him, and yet you despise him, then I guess you despise yourself. Same kind of personality. He wasn't about to let his country be subject to embarrassment. No he had to make Germany strong. Same reaction you'd have had.

One thing is clear, though, there can be no one equatable to Hitler in America today. Hitler was a product of circumstances that don't exist in our country.

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posted September 08, 2009 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message
This kind of reminds me of....Iran....and China....hmmmmm

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posted September 08, 2009 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Oh really acoustic...Hitler doesn't resemble anyone on the left in America?

Perhaps you've forgotten all about O'Bomber's attempt to establish a "Civilian National Security Force...just as large, just as well funded and just as well trained as the US military.

Sieg Heil Comrades...your papers please...reminiscent of Hitler's Brown Shirts and Gestapo.

Perhaps you've forgotten...or never knew about O'Bomber's Fascism...in taking over sectors of the private economy. So far...banking and the financial sector, the auto companies and he's working hard on the health care and insurance industries. Perhaps you don't know about Hitler's Socialist Fascism...or Mussolini's.

Perhaps you don't know about O'Bomber's Czars...those unelected and unvetted morons. who have been given vast powers without going through the procedure of "Advice and Consent" of the Senate of the United States...and further without any oversight whatsoever by Congress.

That's enough acoustic, it's much more than necessary to knock your ridiculous argument into a cocked hat.

I"m not going to resurrect Hitler for you so he can whisper in your ear...I'm a Socialist.

As for whom would get whom if I had been there to put a bullet in Hitler's head; that's a dicey proposition since his own Generals attempted to kill him...several times and failed.

The Allies thought about simply killing Hitler but the thinking was that Hitler was screwing up the Germany military to the degree that he was actually an asset to the allies...and if Hitler had been killed a real German General would have been directing the German military and victory would have become much more difficult.

You on the other hand acoustic, with your servile herd mentality would have been bowing and scraping to Hitler..just as you do for the Marxist Socialist O'Bomber.

Hi BUD

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posted September 08, 2009 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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Perhaps you've forgotten all about O'Bomber's attempt to establish a "Civilian National Security Force...just as large, just as well funded and just as well trained as the US military.

Perhaps you've forgotten that you misinterpretted what he said. Where are these brown shirts? Where Jwhop? I want you to show me.

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Perhaps you've forgotten...or never knew about O'Bomber's Fascism...in taking over sectors of the private economy. So far...banking and the financial sector, the auto companies and he's working hard on the health care and insurance industries. Perhaps you don't know about Hitler's Socialist Fascism...or Mussolini's.

He didn't take these sectors over. He doesn't run them. The auto industry came to the government help, and that help came with conditions such as new leadership not in the form of a government servant, but rather in the form of a regular civilian executive. In the financial sector, yes, they are going to regulate more, but that isn't a new role for the government. With regard to healthcare, nothing on the table suggests that the government will seize the assets of private healthcare, nor will there be any requirement that people use any service provided by the government. You've got nothing. The same nothing you've always had. It's just some Socialist dream inside YOUR own head that fuels your ideas. No one is stepping on my freedom, and no one is stepping on yours either.

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I"m not going to resurrect Hitler for you so he can whisper in your ear...I'm a Socialist.

It wouldn't matter if you did. WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS ALREADY AD NAUSEUM. Hitler portraying himself as a Socialist is a ridiculous notion not unlike you portraying yourself as having a critical mind.

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You on the other hand acoustic, with your servile herd mentality would have been bowing and scraping to Hitler..just as you do for the Marxist Socialist O'Bomber.

You are so ridiculous.

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posted September 08, 2009 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
whatever happened to blobama's plan for college students to have to volunteer to maintain government funded student loans? has that been benched?

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posted September 08, 2009 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"whatever happened to blobama's plan for college students to have to volunteer to maintain government funded student loans? has that been benched?"

First of all, his last name is Obama which is the last name of his Kenyan father. His last name isn't blobama nor is it O'Bomber.

also it's not like he's forcing college students to volunteer to get government funded student loans.

He wants to set up a program that has to do with college students volunteering and then they get some money for it. He's not going to bar students from student loans if they don't volunteer.

he is not forcing anybody to volunteer. He's not telling people to do it. He's asking people.

"I know that the price of tuition is higher than ever, which is why if you are willing to volunteer in your neighborhood or give back to your community or serve your country, we will make sure that you can afford a higher education. And to encourage a renewed spirit of national service for this and future generations, I ask this Congress to send me the bipartisan legislation that bears the name of Senator Orrin Hatch as well as an American who has never stopped asking what he can do for his country, Senator Edward Kennedy."

a video of President Obama's emphasis on Education.
http://www.gcu.edu/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,print,0& cntnt01articleid=28&cntnt01showtemplate=false&cntnt01returnid=15


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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posted September 08, 2009 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
smacks of the peace corps, vista, etc...

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posted September 08, 2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
yeah and with unemployment what it is right now, sorry gl..., but without student loans i have two daughters that would be getting on my nerves instead of getting an education, which they will be required to pay back as it is a loan.

i was curious about whether they shelved the idea of mandatory volunteer work or not. youare saying it is not mandatory, i am all good with that. my kids work full time, so the required hours would cut into thier sleep.

i know his name, and yet i can call him what i want. i re-named someone at work willie leavearly...

it's my terms of endearment...kinda like smmoothie face, lambchop, sugar dumpling, pummpyumpkin....you know. no need to get upset, i am sure he has been called worse. probobly by his wife.

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posted September 08, 2009 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
That's right acoustic; Now You Remember, we've gone over this several times.

Hitler was a Socialist, said he was a Socialist, governed like a Socialist, named his political party The National Socialist German Workers' Party, Party members of his government were full of speeches in which the words National Socialists were well used..and I'm still not going to resurrect Hitler so he can whisper in your ears..."I'm a Socialist.

Don't be absurd acoustic...or at least make an attempt to be a little less absurd than you usually are. Of course O'Bomber is running those private sector businesses. He's running them through appointees (Czars) he's appointed...WHO REPORT TO HIM. Oh, oh, oh, he's appointed another "Czar"...a "Czar" of manufacturing. Looks like the Fascist O'Bomber is trying to branch out and take over even more of the US economy.

O'Bomber said what he said about a national civilian security force...O'Bomber's personal Gestapo and Brown Shirt army...and I have his comments saved. Want to see it again acoustic? No? Well, here it is anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

Glaucus, Hitler's beliefs and actions placed him in the forefront of Socialist thought. Further, he governed like Stalin...another Socialist. Hitler was a far left radical Socialist dictator.

The far left radicals don't like being associated with Hitler and have attempted to dump Hitler the Socialist for more than 60 years...all those death camps and genocide. Of course, Stalin was into the very same thing. Hitler, Stalin and Mao, three peas, three murderous Socialist dictators from the very same Socialist pod.

cpn...as I recall, some kind of service work was going to be made mandatory. Perhaps O'Bomber caught enough flak he's dropped that hot potato.

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posted September 08, 2009 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Now I remember? When did I not remember?

Governoring as a dictator is not governing as a Socialist. We've been over this.

Obama's czars don't run private sector business. That's a fallacy.

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O'Bomber said what he said about a national civilian security force...O'Bomber's personal Gestapo and Brown Shirt army...and I have his comments saved. Want to see it again acoustic? No? Well, here it is anyway.

We went over that when it occured. You didn't get it. You still don't get it.

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Glaucus, Hitler's beliefs and actions placed him in the forefront of Socialist thought.

That's ridiculous.

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i thought it was the right that was arming themselves. not one word about this civilian security force actually happening. there is ONE video in which he mentions it, but the clip is too short to judge the context. he could have been saying it would be a travesty to "have to have...""

shadow-boxing seems to be a favourite sport these days!

happy 9-9-9 folks (which in europe is the code for emergency services, by the way).

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posted October 04, 2009 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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Yep, Dur Furhur O'Bomber says it's for cyber-security...that he needs authority to turn your internet service off.
Sieg Heil Comrades, your papers please...oh, and your cyber certificate too.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahahahaha omg i'm laughing so much!

Jwhop, your sense of humour is hilarious, if only it was only humour and not the TRUTH.

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