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jwhop
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posted September 07, 2009 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Gee, how far will this little brain dead Marxist Socialist twit go?

Now, Barack 'The Red' O'Bomber is going to raise the flag of Communist Red China on the south lawn of the White House.

Before you jump to the conclusion this is protocol and that there's a meeting at the White House between Communist Chinese government officials and US government members...it's not that at all.

Raising the Communist Chinese flag is to commemorate the anniversary of the take over...by murder, subversion and stealth by Communists of mainland China.

In the intervening period, these Communist bast@rds have murdered more than 100 MILLION of their own citizens.

Nice job O'Bomber The Red.

The Global Times is reporting that On Sept. 20th,

"the national flag of the People’s Republic of China will be raised for the first time on the south lawn of the White House... Overseas Chinese planned the ceremony in the US to celebrate China’s National Day. Chen Ronghua, chairman of the US-Fujian Association, was the proponent of the event.
'It was always my dream to raise a Chinese flag in the center of Washington DC', he told the Global Times. 'This year, my motherland’s 60th birthday, is the perfect time for it.'”

Even though the People's Republic of China flag-raising ceremony-- in celebration of China's National Day-- may help foster "good relations between China and the US,” as Chen imagines, it is quite likely that the notion of a communist flag flying in front of the white house may not resonate well with some.

China's National Day is the Chinese holiday that marks the anniversary of the Communist Party of China and it's 1949 victory over the Nationalist forces of Chiang Kai Shek. Kai Shek had attempted to eradicate the Chinese Communists in his life-long struggle against the communist regime.

"The grand ceremony for the founding of People's Republic of China was held on this day in Tiananmen Square in Beijing. Mao Zedong, Chairman of the Central People's Government, solemnly declared the founding of P.R.C. at the ceremony and raised the first national flag of China himself." Chinatravel.com

Fast forward to China today, Amnesty International has documented how China is "ranked lowest of 13 selected countries in terms of human rights and working conditions, and environmental issues."

For those American veterans who have given of their blood and their lives to fight against communism on battle fields throughout history, and for those who cherish freedom of speech, freedoms of press, religion, assembly and reproductive rights-- they, too, may find the People's Republic of China's flag on the White House lawn "divisive" and wounding.
http://www.examiner.com/x-6722-Miami-City-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m9d4-Chinas-national-flag-to-be-raised-for-first-time-on-White-House-lawn-whats-in-a-flag-anyway

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AcousticGod
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posted September 07, 2009 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
White House Debunks Reports It Will Fly China's Flag on South Lawn

A ceremony, indeed, will take place. But it won't happen on the White House grounds -- rather, on the Ellipse, on the other side of E Street from the presidential residence
By Wendell Goler

FOXNews.com

Friday, September 04, 2009

The White House on Friday dismissed as inaccurate reports from China that the administration will mark the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic by flying the Chinese flag on the South Lawn.

China Daily, citing other media reports, claimed the president of the Fujian Association of the United States had been granted permission to hoist the flag "in a ceremony in front of the President's residence."

A ceremony, indeed, will take place. But it won't happen on the White House grounds -- rather, on the Ellipse, on the other side of E Street from the presidential residence.

China Daily's report -- which said the flag would represent strong U.S.-Chinese relations and recognition of China's success in hosting the 2008 Summer Olympics -- set off howls of protest on the Internet and among conservative talk show hosts despite failing to receive confirmation from the White House.

Demonstrations by foreign groups on the Ellipse or in Lafayette Park, in front of the White House, are not uncommon. But foreign flags are only flown on the White House grounds or on Pennsylvania Avenue to mark "state" or "official" visits of the countries' leaders.

Under those guidelines, the Chinese flag has flown on White House grounds before, in April of 2006, when President Hu Jintao visited then President George W. Bush.

In fact the current controversy is reminiscent of that visit. The Chinese insisted it was a state visit, despite U.S. assurances it was only an official one. The "state visit" label would have implied a bigger honor to Hu and to China, but Bush only had a handful of state visits and Hu's wasn't one of them.

Still, Chinese media continued to report it was a state visit even after it was over. And they continue now to report that the Fujian Association rally will take place on the White House lawn, even though U.S. officials insist it will not.
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jwhop
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posted September 07, 2009 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
I suspect this is another case of O'Bomber getting an ear full from those who would oppose the raising of the Communist Chinese Flag at the White House...and he's backed off once again.

The Chinese say..."The ceremony has gotten official approval," Xiao Shuigen, secretary of the Union of Chinese American Professional Organizations, told the Times.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108907

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posted September 07, 2009 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, they probably got "official approval" from the site where it will actually be hoisted, which could be considered to be "in front of" the White House, though not actually on the White House property. I suspect the White House does actually know when to fly which flags. That's not a mistake a newbie Administration is likely to make.

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jwhop
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posted September 07, 2009 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Nope, I disagree with your theory. The Chinese delegation believed...or say they believe the ceremony is to be held at the White House and their Communist Chinese Flag raised on the South lawn of the White House.

I can see nothing to be gained by the Chinese putting out a story involving the White House which is wrong and doesn't have official White House approval to happen.

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posted September 07, 2009 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
My theory is based upon the fact that high on any incoming administration's list of things to learn would be White House etiquette.

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jwhop
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posted September 07, 2009 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
So acoustic, are you suggesting someone in the White House who had the authority to commit to the Chinese flag ceremony screwed up and gave formal authorization to hold the Communist Chinese flag ceremony on the South lawn of the White House...and that after the deal was set and the Chinese began to advertise the fact, someone else...higher up, intervened and moved the event off White House property?

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AcousticGod
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posted September 07, 2009 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
No. That's what you're saying.

I'm saying that the White House comes with its own indoctrination regarding etiquette that would prevent this from being a likely scenario for an Administration mistake. I'm sure there is a team in place to ensure this Administration gets the formalities of Head of State right, and I don't think a flag raising is a likely point of error.

On the other hand, I can see where saying that the flag will be raised "in front of" the White House could be construed as "on the property of the White House."

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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2009 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I see acoustic.

You mean like the protocol which Hillary used on her big red button that was intended to say "Reset" in relations with Russia?

The big red button which said "peregruzka", in Russian and means "overloaded" or "overcharged", rather than "reset".
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19719.html

There have been more screwups in this administration than any other 10 administrations in memory..and, we're only 8 months into O'Bomber's disaster for America.

You need to face facts acoustic. Someone in the White House screwed up royally and made a deal with the Communist Chinese to fly their flag on the South Lawn of the White House...to commemorate the formation of the Chinese Communist government.

When it leaked out to the public the smelly stuff hit the fan and the O'Bomber administration scrambled for cover.

The Chinese thought they had a done deal....or they would never have talked about flying their flag at the White House.

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posted September 08, 2009 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message

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You need to face facts acoustic

And what FACTS would those be, Jwhop? You haven't got any that substantiate what you're saying. None of what's been written backs your story whatsoever. You're being absurd!

What I proposed is FAR more logical and likely than what you've supposed.

Oh, and this notion that the current Administration has screwed up more than the last 10 is just retarded. Hell, Obama hasn't even received his first smack down from the Supreme Court. How many of those did Bush get, even after the court was dominantly Conservative? Go fish, Brother.

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jwhop
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posted September 08, 2009 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well acoustic, neither do you have any facts to back up what you say about what the deal was with the Chinese Communists to fly the flag on the South Lawn of the White House.

However, because I can actually think...unlike you...and because this administration is a sorry collection of F-ups who are in constant cover their a$ses mode...my proposition makes a hell of a lot more sense than yours. But, that's the usual case, isn't it acoustic?

The Chinese are sticklers for proper protocol acoustic. They would never go public with something so certain to "lose face" for them, tarnish their image and embarrass them.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted September 08, 2009 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Jwhop! Long time no see

Boy o boy it's been a long time since I've been around these parts

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listenstotrees
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posted September 09, 2009 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. -John Lennon

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listenstotrees
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posted September 09, 2009 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it".
-John Lennon

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jwhop
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posted September 12, 2009 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hi MVM

I notice you've moved to the left coast.

Didn't you read all those stories about the probability of the left coast breaking off the mainland and sinking into the Pacific?

Looking on the bright side, the left coast is moving towards Alaska. Eventually, you could be neighbors with Sarah Palin.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted September 12, 2009 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
LOL @ Left Coast... yes, amidst some kooky weird stuff.
Just minding my own business and watching the madness with a smile (along with many eye rolls LOL)

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