posted October 02, 2009 06:09 PM         

well, i heard the news while doing other stuff so if i got it right they said yes; a bad thing because of this treaty being made By and for technocracy (i didn't watch the link). they interviewed 2 irish on the radio and one said the financial crisis was threatening ireland therefore she voted yes and a young girl said she voted yes because she feels european and didn't want ireland to be excluded of EU.

it's sad though, i'm for europe But another one, made by and for the people.

never mind, let's not throw the Baby with the bathwater, the EU is still a superbe idea at the level of the people

posted October 03, 2009 06:04 AM         

i'm not fully aware of all the details of the lisbon treaty. i've got faith that when it comes to a treaty, what has been agreed and signed can eventually be changed when the people (real power) wants it.

i would be really sad if the EU was no more. there is a lot of complaint about the political details of the EU But generally, i think people see it as an evidence. after all, europe has seen too many wars on its soil, wars totally useless where common people, by millions, were send to death.

there is a disgust in warfare on t is side of the atlantic; i think even brits, who are very brave and always ready to defend their ways, don't want tragedies like WWI & WWII. it wasn't happening under the tropics but on our front doors; victims were fighters but civilians too. a different perspective.

posted October 03, 2009 12:21 PM         

though it doesn't have to be the way hitler saw it, there is always that risk implicit, and judging by the eu parliament maybe more than risk..?

if they could keep it loose the way the english have tried to push it, it could be a great thing. in terms of tearing down nationalistic walls between people, it probably is also a good thing.

when i lived in england there were LOTS of veterans still around. the bombsites were still not all patched up when i first got there...even at st paul's i remember a cavernous hole in the ground, and my last home there was BUILT on a bombsite. imagine the energy there!

"i fought the war for YOUR SORT" was a real catchphrase used to voice disgust that the world and kids they fought to protect weren't what they had in mind!

and yes, europe has been war torn for centuries, and our own memories do not really include the revolution and the other wars of the early days..but we did have them. the civil war was horrific, though before the days of airborn bombs, and the revolution was no picnic either.

posted October 11, 2009 04:57 PM         

i don't get so much of the little green men from tsarion, though he does talk about genetic experiments (like our ancestors) in the distant past, i think he is more concerned with those of us who are more or less human...he even says somewhere that he believes the reptilians (who david icke considers basically ETs in disguise) were the result of a separate experiment by the same "controllers".

posted October 11, 2009 05:40 PM         

i was thinking of 'atlantis, alien visitation and genetic manipulation'. i don't have any issue with the belief in life on other planets, but the whole reptilian race, earth 'seeded' by aliens, pleiadian visitors blah blah. no thanks. big distraction, i think. conspiracy behind the conspiracy, if you will. i'm more of an old fashioned spiritualist i guess.

i do believe in atlantis though.

and Ireland ... *sigh* ... that's a topic and a half, isn't it? i wouldn't know where to start.

posted October 11, 2009 06:24 PM         

i don't worry about the genetic experiments etc...too long ago to matter really. and i think conspiracists tend to overdo the connections, but that's just me.

but ireland WAS a great civilization before the romans got there. haven't had a chance to corroborate that scota/meritoten is buried there, or the other egyptians he talks about but it still makes sense to me that the old religion was pilfered and subverted and then overwritten, so to speak.

posted October 30, 2009 03:53 AM         

I'm 50% Irish, 12% Polynesian and goodness what else in the 38%. Probably, English (don't know, cos, I'm partly adopted).

I must look into that book, and info. Who cares if it's true or not. I just love the idea of aliens!!! It's great for my imagination, and outlook on life. I'm more of a believer than non-believer.

posted October 30, 2009 12:53 PM         

i suppose beings from other planets could look like pretty much anything so reptilian, shmeptilian as far as i am concerned! i am pretty sure beings from other worlds AND dimensions have ALWAYs been among us, what they're doing here i'm not so sure. birds once were dinosaurs, and horses more like our pigs. evolution, transformation, whatever!

i also believe leprechauns are here amongst us...

however i have never met a (admitted) martian, or a reptile in a brooks brothers suit, or even a leprechaun, so i am going on intuition.

posted October 30, 2009 01:54 PM         

hmmmmm

Believe it or not, I acknowledge the existence of leprechauns too. Not all of the stories and myths and gossip surrounding them, mind you, but, yes, nature spirits exist. Or, as you so rightly put it, other dimensional beings, which, as a whole, I believe in. And with certainty and good cause too, not the least of which being that I have been introduced. Although, that alone would not have been sufficient reason for me.

Life on other planets? Sure. I can buy that. But this whole Alien Conspiracy stuff? Nope. I did at one point believe. And I put some degree of time and effort into exploring the stories. It didn't add up for me. I was honestly disappointed. Its the government involvment angle to the stories that, I believe, hold the key. That and those aforementioned other dimensional beings.

There's truth to be found on FOX News and truth to be found on Infowars too. I understand that. It's this tendency to swallow hole either agenda that worries me. Our ability to think clearly and critically is disappearing at an alarming rate, kat. I'm pretty sure you see that too? It's scaring the hell out of me. That oil is the reason for the Iraqi invasion is as much an official diverson as is the 'good cause' of Mid East peace. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

posted October 30, 2009 03:48 PM         

other than that i am a voracious reader whose virgo merc mercilessly picks apart not only fallacious arguments but holes in continuity...i am incapable of watching a movie without noticing continuity goofups, or of reading a narrative with same. so far not ONE author has convinced me they have a grasp on the whole/big picture.

however MANY have pieces of the puzzle. so i continue to hold open my mind to new info (or versions of) while relying on my own experience and gut for ballast and momentum...