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jwhop
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posted March 24, 2010 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It seems like only yesterday O'Bomber and his Socialist Progressive comrades were taking a victory lap around the signing desk after ramming the worst piece of legislation in American history down the throat of America.

There were lights and cameras of every variety as well as drooling so called journalists from every major news service in attendence to record the event for posterity.

Today...right about now, O'Bomber is signing an Executive Order supposedly forbidding the use of taxpayer money to fund abortion.

No lights, no cameras and no drooling so called journalists permitted to see O'Bomber paying off on his bribe to Bert Stupak to secure his vote for O'BomberCare.

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katatonic
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posted March 24, 2010 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
infanticide? signing a bill saying federal funds will not be used for abortion?

i love how the right-to-lifers insist that every child must be born, so he can be thrown to the wolves, used as cannon fodder and generally otherwise ignored thereafter! so caring. never mind the quality of life, the health of the mother or anything else.

and the very same people are now feeling free to make death threats against the people who just REPEATED that abortion is not included in the bill.

i think the estimate of average IQ is way off these days.

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AcousticGod
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posted March 24, 2010 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Whoa! Now that's some really foggy thinking...infanticide.

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jwhop
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posted March 24, 2010 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, President Infanticide said...when he was State Senator Infanticide that it is OK to let an aborted baby which refuses to come out limp, wilted and dead...to die without any medical intervention.

President Infanticide at that time was one of few who voted against the "Born Alive Infant Act" in the Illinois State Legislature. A piece of legislation which had already passed the Congress of the United States and was signed into law by Bush.

Surely you remember getting your butt kicked in that argument acoustic.

Oh wait, I forgot about your faulty or selective memory.

Federal funding for abortion IS in the Senate version of O'BomberCare, much to the delight of the baby killer crowd.

The real story here is that a "so called" staunch right to life congressman sold out and let himself be bribed by O'Bomber with a promise of an Executive Order...which is not worth the paper it's written on.

That guy, Bart Stupak has a D after his name...like all the other bribed Senators and House members.

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AcousticGod
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posted March 24, 2010 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Uh, Jwhop...I do remember, and it wasn't me getting my butt kicked. It very seldom is. You're off in la la land again.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/004342.html

I do have a poor memory sometimes (from lack of attaching emotion to things), but even in those times I can trust that I won the argument as usual.

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jwhop
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posted March 24, 2010 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Ummmm, you proved nothing acoustic. On the other hand, I provided direct quotes from O'Bomber on the floor of the Illinois Senate arguing against providing medical intervention for aborted babies which did not....O'Bomber's words here....come out "Limp", "Wilted" and "Dead".

Of course, O'Bomber claimed that since it was the intent of the mother and her chosen baby killer to kill the baby...he didn't want to burden their abortion.

In the first place, the bill under consideration required a different physician...than the designated baby killer to deliver an opinion that no medical intervention would save the babies life. O'Bomber even objected to having a second opinion on the matter...which is a very common practice in the medical field.

President Infanticide is the correct...and well earned designation for O'Bomber....and acoustic, you came up with another dead bang loser again.

So, Bart Stupak...hereinafter called Bart Stupid...the so called Pro Life demoscat..made a pact with President Infanticide to sign a totally useless Executive Order to give Bart Stupid cover to vote for the Senate version of O'BomberCare which does contain taxpayer funding for abortion.

No one but the mentally incompetent buys into Bart Stupid's cover.

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AcousticGod
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posted March 25, 2010 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I did prove something, Jwhop. I showed you the law. It doesn't get much clearer than that. Did Obama vote against a bill he thought would threaten the legality of abortion? Yes. Was that the job he perceived himself as having to do? Yes. Did he lose an election, because of that decision? Nope. Can we infer that he did the will of his constituents? Yes. Did Alan Keys win the Senate seat using your argument? Nope. Is this just the latest in a series of incoherant and ultimately meaningless rants by a certain resident extremist? Yes.

    Earlier versions of the bill, in 2001 and 2002, had met with opposition from abortion-rights groups, which contended that they would be used to challenge Roe v. Wade. Because the bills accorded human rights to pre-viable fetuses (that is, fetuses that could not live outside the womb) as long as they showed some vital signs outside the mother, abortion-rights groups saw them as the thin edge of a wedge that could be used to pry apart legal rights to abortion. Obama stated this objection on the Senate floor in discussion of both bills. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html

I think we're reaching the point where anything you declare "a dead bang loser" should automatically be considered to be an argument you lost.

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So, Bart Stupak...hereinafter called Bart Stupid...the so called Pro Life demoscat..made a pact with President Infanticide to sign a totally useless Executive Order to give Bart Stupid cover to vote for the Senate version of O'BomberCare which does contain taxpayer funding for abortion.

Wrong. Executive orders/signing statements do establish how an administration is to interpret a law. We learned all about signing statements with Bush. As such the deeming it "useless" is baseless.

    • You will be forced to pay for other people's abortions.

    Only if you join a health insurance plan that covers abortion. In that case, the costs of paying for abortions would be spread over all the enrollees in the plan — no differently from how other medical procedures are handled, except a policyholder would have to write a separate check for it.

    Timothy Jost, a law professor at Washington and Lee University, said people who don't want to pay for abortion could simply pick a plan that doesn't offer it.

    There would definitely be a demand for such plans, and not just from people with moral objections. Single men and older women would have no reason to pay an extra premium for abortion coverage. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_overhaul_fact_check

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jwhop
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posted March 25, 2010 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Senator Infanticide did exactly what I said he did.

Senator Infanticide voted to withhold medical treatment for babies born alive, the natural consequences of such action is death of the babies.

Not even the most ardent and hardened abortion supporter in the Senate of the United States, Babs Boxer could stomach that practice. Babs Boxer voted FOR the "Born Alive Infant Protection Act" which defends their right to live when they're born alive.

Your defense of the indefensible is indefensible acoustic.

O'Bomber is an empty headed moron with the thug instincts of other murderous Marxist Socialist Progressives from the 20th century.

Anyone who wouldn't be moved to save the most innocent and vulnerable among us is a caricature of a human.

Caricature:

"an imitation or copy so distorted or inferior as to be ludicrous."

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AcousticGod
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posted March 25, 2010 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like something a poor loser would say.

Obama was in favor of the similar Federal bill. However, the fact remains that Obama's goal in opposing the legislation was not to allow a loophole that might threaten legalized abortion. The law already provided for the care for a baby born alive.

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jwhop
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posted March 25, 2010 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Defense of the indefensible is THE loser position acoustic.

You're in the right, for you, phew with President Infanticide.

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AcousticGod
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posted March 25, 2010 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
You're ridiculous.

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ghanima81
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posted March 25, 2010 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
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Oh wait, I forgot about your faulty or selective memory.

Pot, meet Kettle.

Ridiculous is right. Your premiums for your meds must be too high this month, you are losing it.

It's rather disgusting to hear these kinds of slurs, allegations and bigoted comments about a leader from a self touted "intelligent person".

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