posted May 01, 2010 05:33 AM         

Yes you are katatonic, and thank you for doing so.

Some of us are trying to get the Governor to declare that oil the property of Florida once it gets within the 3 mile territorial limits of Florida.

With crude oil selling at $86 per barrel, that should add up to a tidy little sum when we sell it back to British Petroleum and divide up the proceeds among our 18,000,000 Florida citizens....minus a 25% windfall profits tax for the state of Florida..of course.

The longer O'Bomber warms his chair in the Oval Office with his thumb up his butt and doesn't deal with the oil spill...the more money we'll make. That oil well in the Gulf is just happily spewing it's little heart out.

With O'Bomber's fairyland non energy, energy policy which is driving up crude prices, that oil might be worth a lot more than $86 per barrel by the time we get it all corraled, bottled and ready to sell back to BP.

This oil spill is O'Bomber's Katrina.

Who would have believed O'Bomber doesn't care about fish, doesn't care about oysters, doesn't care about turtles, doesn't care about birds, doesn't care about mangroves and doesn't care about the people of Texas, Louisanna, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida?

posted May 01, 2010 09:08 AM         

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With crude oil selling at $86 per barrel, that should add up to a tidy little sum when we sell it back to British Petroleum and divide up the proceeds among our 18,000,000 Florida citizens....minus a 25% windfall profits tax for the state of Florida..of course.

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How is it actually looking in Florida jwhop??
What a horrid horrid mess.

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posted May 01, 2010 04:42 PM         

So katatonic, let's recap, shall we.

When the National Hurricane Center fixed the Hurricane Katrina track as striking in the New Orleans area, it was Friday morning, August 26th, 2005. Bush declared a National Emergency.

Bush immediately got on the phone with the Governor of Louisiana, told her and advised her that the state was staring down the funnel at what was expected to be a category
5 hurricane. He even put the head of the bureau on the phone with her. He also advised her to order a mandatory evacuation of the greater New Orleans area.

She told Bush she would get back to him...but didn't.

Bush also called..on that same Friday..the 26th, the Mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin and told him the same thing...please order a mandatory evacuation of your city. He too was put on the phone with the head of the bureau. Ray Nagin took no action.

On Saturday, August 27th, Bush again spoke with both the Governor and the Mayor repeating what he had already told them...and that the hurricane track had not changed and would likely hit New Orleans...and to please order a mandatory evacuation of the Greater New Orleans area.

Bush also asked the Governor if she wanted him to federalize the effort to evacuate and maintain order. She didn't.

A complete federal response to Hurricane Katrina was put into effect that Friday and federal agencies were notified they needed to be ready to go into the New Orleans area with medical staff, medicines, food, water, shelter and other necessities just as soon as Katrina passed through. FEMA is not a first responder in these kinds of emergencies. They come in as soon as possible to pick up the pieces of what's left and provide aid. FEMA staged necessary supplies just outside of the hurricane track.

Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans on Monday morning, August 29th.

Neither the Mayor or Governor responded in any manner consistent with what they had been told to expect. In fact, with Bush telling Ray Nagin to evacuate New Orleans, he made no effort..until it was too late. Further, Nagin never implemented the city's emergency plans. When Katrina hit New Orleans there were more than 500 school buses and city Metro buses sitting in water up to the tops of their tires...that never moved and were never used to evacuate anyone. Instead, we found Ray Nagin going on television at the last moment screeching for someone to send Greyhound buses to evacuate New Orleans.

I believe Katrina deaths exceeded 1,100. None of them should have happened...except that the Governor and Mayor wouldn't listen to the warnings Bush gave them early on while there was time to declare a mandatory evacuation and get everyone out.

Within hours after Katrina passed, FEMA..and the Red Cross attempted to enter New Orleans with emergency relief staff, equipment and critical supplies. They were turned back by Louisiana State Police and deterred from entering.

So, America was treated to days of television coverage of wackos blaming Bush, coverage of people trapped at the Super Dome in some of the worst conditions possible...because there were insufficient supplies stocked there to take care of all the refugees...and, it was all Bush's fault. We were also treated to every brain dead idiot in Hollywood, the press, the demoscat party, every leftist group in America...all blaming Bush.

But, Bush could not federalize the Katrina emergency without the approval of the Governor of Louisiana. You may find this hard to believe but some Loony Tunes brain dead idiots blamed Bush for CAUSING Katrina to hit New Orleans. They claimed Bush used super secret weather control equipment to STEER Katrina into New Orleans.

FEMA did screw some things up too...such as sending trailer truck loads of bottled water to the US North East. I never heard an explanation of how this happened.

You may wonder why I'm bringing this up.

The answer is simple. To provide a comparison between what a real President does in emergency situations and what O'Bomber failed to do in the present emergency.

You should know that while Bush could not federalize the emergency in New Orleans because of state sovereignty issues...O'Bomber could have federalized the emergency caused by the blowup of the drilling platform...because it's well beyond the 3 mile territorial limits of the state...in the Gulf of Mexico.

There is one puzzling piece of news I heard the other day. O'Bomber ordered SWAT teams to go out to other drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico.

posted May 01, 2010 04:59 PM         

There wasn't a drop of crude to be found; just lots of people walking around with their own empty jugs. Word must have gotten around.

AD, British Petroleum will be responsible for clean up costs, economic costs and in fact, I believe all costs associated with their drilling platform blowing up.

That's IF that platform wasn't blown up deliberately. I heard on the news..yesterday or day before yesterday...that O'Bomber ordered SWAT teams out to other oil rigs in the Gulf. I haven't heard another word about that since. But SWAT teams could only serve one purpose...to protect the other rigs from deliberate sabotage.

Or, maybe the report I heard came out of left field.

posted May 01, 2010 06:11 PM         

the difference between katrina and this disaster is that katrina was caused by the weather. it was seen coming...this was caused by drilling for oil. the oil companies are SUPPOSED to be responsible NOT ONLY for cleanup but for prevention. the norwegians were quick to point out that THEY are prepared and protected against something like this...

yes i remember the speculation about weather control experiments, though the perps suspected were a wide and varied lot, not bush in particular.

the pro-domestic oil production people are VERY fond of saying how the technology is so much better now that the environment has NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

any and anything can be blamed on sabotage but more often it is just S.N.A.F.U, in other words, incompetence and chaos.

in the words of the immortal frank zappa,

"IT CAN'T HAPPEN HEEEERRR"

[and i don't think anything you get out of the water or off the beach will be much good for anything. it blends chemically with the seawater and creates an entirely new substance which would probably kill your car]

as to cleanup costs etc, all well and good if the mating/breeding cycles of all that wildlife is not interrupted. if it is it is not a problem money can fix anytime soon.

by the way, jwhop, sorry about your beach, your seafood, and all the other things that are affected by this, whoever caused it and whoever cleans it up.

posted May 01, 2010 07:04 PM         

SWAT teams would be totally useless in any equipment failure emergency. They're not trained engineers, their field is weapons. So, it's unlikely they were sent to keep an eye on oil production personnel to see if they're doin it right.

The entire farce of Bush ordering weather control involvement in Katrina...or even having the capability to steer storms is utter fantasy.

So is another allegation I've heard from morons.

Bush had the levee blown up to flood black areas of New Orleans....cause Bush hates black people. I suppose that's why Bush appointed 2 of the highest ranking members of his administration who were black...Rice and Powell.

posted May 03, 2010 12:41 AM         

It makes me sad looking at the pictures of the oil covered wildlife.

Is it suspected to be purposeful? That sucks even more if it was sabotage.

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posted May 04, 2010 06:09 PM         

it is sad to see wildlife murdered like this, and even sadder to think of all the fishermen, consumers, etc who will be having their very own depression for years to come because of the interrupted lifecycles involved.

and it's about time that people stopped arguing about whether we are hurting the planet or not. we are hurting ourselves. the planet will survive, and new species will be born. humans are courting their own extinction.

posted May 05, 2010 10:12 AM         

But, we need to wait until all the evidence is in as to the cause of this platform blowing up.

If it turns out to be deliberate sabotage then, depending on who caused the explosion, BP might be off the hook and the O'Bomber regime might find themselves squarely on the horns of a dilemma.

So, was it negligence on the part of BP or was it a terrorist attack?

President Obama Announces Interior Department Will Send "SWAT Teams" to Inspect Oil Rigs in Gulf of Mexico
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2950146/president_obama_announces_interior.html?cat=9

The idea...(cover story) of SWAT teams "inspecting" oil platforms is ludicrous on it's face.

AD, there have been many announcements over the years of miracle cures for disease, new technology to do away with fossil fuel energy AND they were never heard again.

One of the stories you linked to is from 1992.

The fact most of these promising "new" technologies are never heard of again makes me wonder if there is deliberate suppression playing out in scientific circles...or government circles.

Do you remember a story...from long ago whereby a dye of a certain color could be injected into cancer patients to be absorbed by and stain cancer cells...and only cancer cells which would then be heated by laser light of a certain light wave frequency to kill only cancer cells?

posted May 05, 2010 04:13 PM         

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The fact most of these promising "new" technologies are never heard of again makes me wonder if there is deliberate suppression playing out in scientific circles...or government circles.

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Do you remember a story...from long ago whereby a dye of a certain color could be injected into cancer patients to be absorbed by and stain cancer cells...and only cancer cells which would then be heated by laser light of a certain light wave frequency to kill only cancer cells?

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You'd be aghast at the number of cancer treatments that have been killed, so to speak, in the last 100 years or so. When I was researching treatments, it was disgusting at what happened to the scientists who discovered gentle treatments/alternative treatments. Lots of pressure from the pharmceutical/AMA etc. Did you know that each cancer patient is worth on average, $1,000,000? Big money involved in just the getting it gone, and that doesn't include the aftercare; keeping it gone.

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posted May 05, 2010 08:34 PM         

I'm not generally into conspiracy theories. I've given katatonic a hard time about Tesla. But, there's no denying he was brilliant and held a ton of patents. The question is, was Tesla so brilliant that 90 years or so later physicists still haven't caught up and reproduced what is claimed he discovered?

In medical science, I'm far less skeptical about claims technology and cures are being suppressed. Modern medical science has a much broader base of discovery upon which to build than the science Tesla had available. There's something else which nags at my consciousness. The trend in social thinking today is not to prolong life but rather to reduce the world population. So, I'm more of a mind to agree medical cures are being suppressed.

Yes, Monsanto is big into Genetic Engineering. I can see benefits in engineering food crops to grow in adverse climates, to better withstand dry growing areas, to fight off insect damage and to produce bigger crops. The one thing that bothers me is that someone might introduce the wrong gene into a gene sequence or into the wrong gene sequence and set off a chain of events which can't be stopped.

I'm also not partial to hybrids. If you try to save the seeds from your vegetable crop, they won't reproduce the same plant characteristics. I buy some Heirloom seed varieties of vegetables I like every other year. I don't plant them but if something happens and hybrid seeds become unavailable.....

posted May 06, 2010 11:37 AM         

anyway according to him, and he is in a position to know for sure, the story about tesla's stuff being sequestered/buried is just a story. it has been available (that is how he got hold of it) all along. but the actual construction and use of his ideas is FORBIDDEN.

some of his(tesla's) stuff is already being used in space technology and in fact it is unlikely any major space travel will take place without it - conventional fuels are just too expensive and bulky to make it work.
another yet unrevealed reason for the push for "clean" energy...

this person is convinced that when they are ready the govt, ge (with govt contract) or someone like that will bring it forward. and not before then. being pigheaded as i am i have tried to push him to find a way but he is not willing to do time for trying. and i can't really blame him for that.

posted May 06, 2010 03:58 PM         

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That bothers me too, and the fact that there was NO long term research done on the effect these organisms would have on the mammalian population that would be ingesting them.

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posted May 24, 2010 01:37 PM         

ironically, BP may be right that in the long run the best thing to do is let nature run it's course...EVENTUALLY the oil will be broken down by bacteria, enrich the soil it has ... soiled! and basically be reabsorbed into the environment.

posted May 26, 2010 08:43 AM         

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(AP) Since a busted oil well began spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico a month ago, the catastrophe has constantly been measured against the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster. The Alaska spill leaked nearly 11 million gallons of crude, killed countless animals and tarnished the owner of the damaged tanker, Exxon.

Yet the leader of botched containment efforts in the critical hours after the tanker ran aground wasn't Exxon Mobil Corp. It was BP PLC, the same firm now fighting to plug the Gulf leak.

BP owned a controlling interest in the Alaska oil industry consortium that was required to write a cleanup plan and respond to the spill two decades ago. It also supplied the top executive of the consortium, Alyeska Pipeline Service Co. Lawsuits and investigations that followed the Valdez disaster blamed both Exxon and Alyeska for a response that was bungled on many levels.

People who had a front row seat to the Alaska spill tell The Associated Press that BP's actions in the Gulf suggest it hasn't changed much at all.

The Gulf leak has grown to at least 6 million gallons since an oil rig exploded April 20, killing 11, and is almost certain to overtake Valdez as the nation's worst oil spill.

Watching the current crisis is like reliving the Valdez disaster for an attorney who headed the legal team for the state-appointed Alaska Oil Spill Commission that investigated the 1989 spill.

posted May 26, 2010 11:40 AM         

It's been 35 days since this well blew out and it was nine days in before O'Bomber had any reaction to it. He's visited the site exactly 1 (one) time.

Yet, we hear voices from the O;Bomber administration parroting in unison that O'Bomber was on top of the situation "from day one".

The fact is O'Bomber is totally in the dark about what to do and he's frozen in a holding pattern. He has no executive experience and doesn't even know where to start.

That's the reason BP is controlling all the shots even though this platform blowout is in US territorial waters.

Further, his own administration is impeding the work which needs to be done.

Most of the oil which is now coming ashore could have and should have been burned off on the surface, far out in the Gulf...but, his own EPA administrator nixed the burn off. There are special ships equipped for just that purpose.

Every dredge in America should have been down there along the Gulf coast dredging up sand to form a front line barrier island upon which the oil slicks could have and should have been deposited...instead of washing up on existing barrier islands. But, the Army Corp of Engineers nixed that idea too.