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Quinnie
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posted July 22, 2010 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
http://eutruth.org.uk/
Seven deadly Lisbon Treaty clauses

From Edward Heath’s Treaty of Accession of 1972, to the Reform or Lisbon Treaty 2008, politicians have lied about the content of the EU’s six Constitutional Treaties.

A dictatorship: an executive of unelected politburos

Page 18 Article 9: Defines the Executive of the EU: three unelected politiburos on the soviet model. The only chance we have of representation is in the European Council, which starts off as being one Prime Minister per country (but can be chosen by EU politicians). But these 27 Heads of State (Gordon Brown is ours) are the very ones who illegally forced us into the EU against our wishes in the first place: they are already bought and paid for by the EU.

Below the politiburos is the European Court of Justice, the one that ruled in case EUCJ 274/99 that it is illegal to criticise the EU. When EU Budget Director Marta Andreasen was fired for revealing that 95% of the EU’s expenditure could not be accounted for, this court ruled she should be denied compensation because she told the truth. This is the court that interprets and enforces these treaties.

At the bottom is the powerless sham EU Parliament, the only vote we will get. It is the Soviet system, but with a more tyrannical constitution, 2,000 controlling pages long instead of the Soviet 80 pages.

The end of the Lib-Dem, Labour and Conservative Parties

Page 16 Article 8A-4. “Political parties at European level contribute to forming European political awareness and to expressing the will of citizens of the Union.”

What does this mean? At the EU’s Party Financing Conference in Madrid in June 1999, parties at the European level were defined as parties with voters in more than 10 countries. The Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem Parties have voters in only one country, Britain.

Under this clause, British parties do not contribute and do not express the will of the EU’s citizens. That empowers the EU to abolish our Lib Lab Con, the very parties whose leaderships have worked so hard to illegally force us into the EU.

Not possible? Read the ½ page 1933 German Enabling Act. It didn’t mention political parties, but was used to abolish them. Given Lisbon removes the last 20% of Westminster’s powers, it makes perfect sense to close Westminster when its current five year term expires in May 2010. By then, it will have been powerless and defunct for 17 months.

The EU is a Military Union: scores of clauses including:

Page 39 10A-c-3 "Member States shall make civilian and military capabilities available to

the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy,”

“Member States shall undertake progressively to improve their military capabilities.”

Three unelected EU politburos will control the nuclear weapons of the former nations of Britain and France. The Treaty of Elysee 1963 gives Germany effective voting control of the EU. Nuclear weapons controlled by German dictators? What is that a recipe for?

Petitions: We are told what to ask for

Pages 17 8B-4. “Not less than one million citizens who are nationals of many Member States may take the initiative of inviting the European Commission, within the framework of its powers, to submit any appropriate proposal on matters where citizens consider that a legal act of the Union is required for the purpose of implementing the Treaties.”

Wonderful. We may petition the EU government. But we are only allowed to ask for more laws to complete the EU dictatorship. We are forced to petition for the EU, Soviet style.

The EU can force the Euro on us:

Page 12, Article 2- 4. “The Union shall establish an economic and monetary union whose

currency is the euro.” Our politicians pretend this means nothing.

If our EU rulers were to impose the Euro on us under this clause, our British government, if still functioning, could in theory appeal. Except for decades our government has implemented EU treaties, laws, and regulations, not the wishes of the people. So it is unlikely it would appeal. Under this clause, an EU judge would have no choice but to impose the Euro on us.

(But they won’t. The EU dictatorship cannot be built while there is a strong and free Britain on its doorstep; we stopped them in 1914 and 1939. Don’t forget the EU was founded by Nazi Germany in 1940, and its design finalised at the conference at Berlin University in 1942, since when it has not changed. So they will destroy us politically with the treaties, economically with the 120,000 regulations and by destroying Sterling to give us poverty.)

We may not oppose the EU

Page 13, 3A-3, end: “The Member States shall facilitate the achievement of the Union's tasks and refrain from any measure which could jeopardise the attainment of the Union's objectives." In English:

“We must comply with the treaties, and we may not oppose the EU. “

We are forced to obey the treaties

Page 14. 3A-4. “Under the principle of proportionality, the content and form of Union action shall not exceed what is necessary to achieve the objectives of the Treaties.”

In English, “the EU will not use more force than is necessary to compel us to comply with the treaties.” See page 13, 3A-3: The other EU states are to force us to comply too.

These are just two of scores of clauses that demolish our sovereignty and Britain.

Summary: Britain abolished on 1st January 2009.

The treaties are written to conceal their intent. For example, they “take Primacy” over our written British Constitution and laws. A nation cannot have two constitutions, so this means the EU’s constitutional treaties replace the British Constitution. In other words, they abolish our Constitution (which is written, every word of it), but they are careful not to say that.

These six treaties are to be enforced by EU judges, paid by the EU, whose remit is to enforce them with the policy of “Ever closer union”. So every ruling is biased in advance towards the EU, and against Britain.

These clauses, and hundreds of similar ones in the 2,000 pages of the six treaties, overwhelmingly abolish British sovereignty, and therefore the British nation.

History shows us dictatorships eliminate those who put it in power, as they are the greatest threat to remove it. In the EU dictatorship our MPs will suffer even more than we will. Watching our traitorous MPs suffer is the one thing we have to look forward to.

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katatonic
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posted July 23, 2010 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
quinnie do you know freeman john?
http://www.tpuc.org/freeman

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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2010 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Kat, I hadn't heard of him before but I will follow his site now. Have you ever heard of a guy called Ken O'Keefe?

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i just met him on facebook strangely enough...? and who is this iain guy? did you send them my way? not that i mind, just curious...i shall check em out.

have to give jwhop credit for pointing out the euro situation to me. i had no idea it had gotten so bad. one reason they had a referendum to get england into the eu i suspect...the "people" didn't know enough to vote no, and now they can't complain the polits "did it to them" - though the intricacies of any of these things tend to be lost on the population at large it really is bad of the home parties to keep schtum about it ... though the truth is pretty obvious now; even if most people still don't get the "whodunnit" and"why" of it and they tend to blame the govt in power for their ills, it won't take long now.

gordy brown was a wrongun for sure, but it wasn't he who got england into it even though he pushed it forward heavily.

rioting will only give them the excuse they need to clamp down, though, be careful...

dunno if freeman john is on facebook but it's a good possibility.

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posted July 24, 2010 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
The Freemasonry connection needs to be exposed, in writing, in media etc.
How many demonstrators carry placards that say "NO to FREEMASONRY", "NO to OCCULT DICTATORSHIP" and put a Brown "X" on the Eye of the Pyramid that the masons use?

This will scare them as the media cannot ignore the placards for long. Not a single televised public debate has occurred about freemasonry, the deception has gone on for too long.

Cricket matches, football matches, T-Shirt captions, car captions should bring the debate out in the open:
"Can a Freemason with loyalty to an occult lodge be allowed to contest elections?"

Written requests to BBC World must be given in the thousands as well as letters to the editors of every newspaper in UK: Discuss the Freemasonry connection of leaders, and the ethics of their loyalty. If they wish to contest, they must publicly declare their Masonic ties, and maybe a new oath of being loyal to National Duties above T.G.A.T.O.T.U should be taken.


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posted July 24, 2010 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Kate the English didn't have a referendum, but the Irish did and the majority voted NO to the E.U. and so they decided to have another one, possibly did a little "behind the scenes work" and finally got the YES answer they wanted...

Yes I sent those facebook suggestions to you. Kenneth O'Keefe served in the Gulf war and raised awareness about the Gulf War syndrome that was apparently caused by the drugs they gave to soldiers at that time....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O'Keefe

He is an avid Human rights activist and "citizen of the world" now. He was against the Iraq war, took part in the human shield there and is now advocating the rights of Palestinians.
http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/
Ian R Crane is a British ex-oilfield executive who is a founder of Edge Media Tv and The AV conferences here in the UK.
It is a truth movement. The channel is dedicated to showong alternative and controversial media coverage that includes conspiracy theories (particulalry 9/11), as well as alternative healing, quantumn physics etc. His aim is to bring awareness of and expose the true agenda of those in power working to bring a world order... Some call them illuminati, some call them zionists, some call them nazi-zionists.

I thought you might like to see some of the links etc they are posting up on facebook etc.

IQ this must be done then. I plan on going to Jim Corr's conference in September. he will be addressing the NWO etc. I also plan on writing to my constituency rep and take it from there.

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posted July 24, 2010 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
the english had a referendum in 74(or was it early 75) about whether to join the "market" as it was then called. i remember it well.

thanks for the links. be careful!

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posted July 24, 2010 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
I will ...
Actually, synchronistically I tuned into Edge media tv a few hours ago and who was on it...??? Freeman John... otherwise known as John harris?

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posted July 24, 2010 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
there you go. no coincidence i am sure. can't find any info from ian crane that i don't have to pay for...any leads?

from your link: £60 billion is wasted on 800,000 overpaid bureaucrats installed in the NHS by the EU's Common Purpose to destroy it. Hospital and medical staff are only 400,000, and are deliberately paid peanuts and overworked to sap moral as they watch the bureaucrats make continual changes calculated to sabotage the NHS.

- what i have been trying to point out to jwhop for as long as i have been coming to GU, the fact that it is not the BRITISH socialist medicine that doesn't work - it is the saboteurs who are destroying it that make it crumble. and still it's a better deal than i have seen in the US with its current system.

is rupert murdoch mentioned as a major tool of the game anywhere? or is he just a rogue who smells money and harvests it?

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posted July 24, 2010 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/

You catch him on edge media channel on uk tv and online http://www.edgemediatv.com/

This site is UFO type stuff, perhaps a little out there but who knows, maybe the truth it??? http://www.richplanet.net/
http://www.gardinersworld.com/
http://www.jimcorr.com/

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posted July 24, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
"is rupert murdoch mentioned as a major tool of the game anywhere? or is he just a rogue who smells money and harvests it?"

Yep he is mentioned, although not quite sure if he is an elitest or as you say making money from them...
He certainly controls the media coverage anyway.

This channel edge media is being put off the air. Their funding has stopped and they are now able to appeal to the public for help... for funding because of recent noew ofcom regulations.

Anyway this channel is where I'm getting most of the leads from and I think LTT watches it also.

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posted July 24, 2010 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
from what i can tell they are on sky tv? a murdoch asset?...hardly strange they would be cut off if so.

i found the piece from the disenfranchised lord amusing...HIS chief beef appears to be that he has lost his hereditary seat and england is going to the "chaotic republic"an dogs ala the usa...in other words the status quo is changing. did you ever see the film "the ruling class"? that has as much to do with the lords being gutted politically as the eu does.

i for one don't see how lawful rebellion can be carried out unless a lot of people band together. but rioting DOES give them the excuse to clamp down with martial law. what actions are being suggested? apart from not paying your tv tax or other taxes?

read john harris's site and the explanation of how to get around demands for those, by the way. he is very clever and still walking the streets so he must be doing something right!!

there is a great deal more illegal shite being passed off as law than what the eu are up to, but they really are making the most of it right now aren't they?

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posted July 25, 2010 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6901353.stm

It seems now is a good time to start a clever revolt. The EU is still very much in establishment and so yes I agree; meanwhile there is a lot of "legal shite" being passed off

I will certainly study John Harris's site and look out for him on edge tv while it's still up and running.

I'm beginning to understand Jwhop's perspective of Obama...just another puppet on a string??? The socialist agenda or Communist agenda is becoming a threat.
However I will never understand his love for Bush ...Bush is never going to be on my Christmas card list.

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bush was another one of the same, in fact bush and his family have been in it for generations. dunno whether obama is being a willing puppet or trying to salvage something out of the mess. i do believe that he had no idea until he got to the white house and that is probably true of all presidents at least since eisenhower...

it is quite possible sarah palin has no idea either though i doubt it. but she will get the same surprise IF she ever gets there. for now she is doing her job - dissing the people who were just voted in.

don't be fooled that it is just socialists. that is where GU-man goes wrong. all sides are being played against the middle-us. did you see the piece on edgetv's site written by lord whoever? THEY are up in arms because the old style aristocracy has been pushed out of the way. one no longer INHERITS their seat in the lords and that is scary to him...

whether it is as evil and coordinated a conspiracy as some think, i dunno either. but the british may be europe's last hope, since they HAVE managed to hold onto the pound, and many of their insular ways. the queen is old. perhaps this is why charles won't take over - they need a doddering monarch to pull it off?

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posted July 25, 2010 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
you know when the USA formed there were probably just as many who objected to it on the basis of a) not wanting to have to abide by a central government and b) just plain not wanting change. the non-elected officials in the EU are very scary, but the lords (as mentioned above) were just that and they are objecting to it just the same! go figure...

there's socialism and then socialism. i agree THERE ARE TOO MANY LAWS PERIOD! intruding on our lives. i agree that things are a mess and probably getting worse before better.,

but bush(es), reagan, etc grew the government just as much as FDR or obama, just in different ways; reagan brought the war on drugs against his own people. bush gave away trillions to the 2% in the form of tax cuts AND spied on all our phones and computers...etc

my 8TH grade history teacher made no bones, this has been going on for a LOOONG time. and that was almost 50 years ago. nothing new, just new boss same as old boss...

which doesn't mean this stuff isn't on the money and that people needn't stand up (though i prefer undercutting) and say no...

on the other hand this - The EU treaties don’t allow for a British General Election, due by 5th May 2010, when the EU will have the power to abolish Westminster. - didn't happen did it? what happened may be even more sinister...the general election did take place but again, new boss/old boss is the name of the game.

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posted July 25, 2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
http://eutruth.org.uk/freemasoncontrol.html

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posted July 25, 2010 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message
Reading all this with great interest.

I do not have a UK connection any longer so it is great to read from those who do.

And Quinnie TY for bringing this up, other threads have not given me so many leads.

Also an insular question...
whenever people talk about what the American president's are privy to once they attain office I notice that Clinton is never mentioned>? Carter I totally get, but how did Bill fare, or was the sex scandal orchestrated? I always thought that It was, but as it was during the second term.
Was it only to assure a Bush ascension?

Clinton was subject to an assassination attempt attributed to bin laden

I am still reading the original link thanks again.


*edit: actually come to think the USSC is responsible for the Bush re-ascension.

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posted July 25, 2010 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.lawfulrebellion.org/2009/12/22/lawful-rebellion-chilling-robert-menard/

I will be offline for a week, I have been borrowing my sister's lap top as my own is broken... hence my bursts of activity followed by a lull.
But I will be back...

Node I have limited Us political knowledge... But I don't think Clinton is exempt from corruption. Reagan may have tried to change things, JFK did and Lincoln... and what happened to them?

But things CAN be done...

Kat thanks for the link...

more links inspired by Edge media..
http://www.greggbraden.com/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
http://www.tetrahedron.org/
http://www.einet.net/review/974246-624100/Terry_Boardman_Homepage.htm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/6825502/Johnny-Ball-booed-by-atheists-over-climate-change-denial.html
http://wadler.blogspot.com/2007/12/johnny-ball-betrayal-of-science.html
http://www.avll.co.uk/viewpage.php?page_id=11
http://www.public-interest.co.uk/

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posted July 25, 2010 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
node i think the lewinsky scandal was made into a scandal deliberately to discredit clinton, yes. though i think clinton was one of the smart ones who thought he could play the puppeteers for good purpose, it is hard to say for sure about anyone. if you've ever seen the film PRIMARY COLOURS it lays it out pretty credibly that the clintons had a good idea what they were playing with and thought they could manipulate the players for what they considered GOOD. whether you agree with their beliefs or not i think they were more aware than some of the game and the stakes. the movie makes the point that whatever your motives, playing the game turns you into one of "them"...

one thing these docs make obvious is that ALL parties are involved up to their eyeballs and that anyone, including sarah palin who is being cast as our last maverick hope, who gets in has either been compromised or will be blackmailed or eliminated if they do not "go along"...hence the only thing an honest man can do in washington is pretend to play the game in the hope of undermining it...at which point he becomes less than honest himself!!

which way up now?

are the objections to the EU being exaggerated by people who want to preserve the status quo, like the unelected lords protesting the unelected politburos? or are they stone cold truth being exposed for the sake of liberty?

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posted July 25, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Ever heard of Trans-humanism? The new Eugenics?
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

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posted July 25, 2010 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i've heard of it yes, haven't looked into it much and couldn't find it on the site. still not sure - in fact it is impossible to BE sure IMO - who's the good and bad guys. some of this stuff is overthetop paranoid...

fer instance i think cutting the lights on the motorway could be a really good thing, no matter the motive...not that it saves that much energy but it makes the night more natural!!

just one thing that jumped out at me. first and foremost don't let ourselves be scared by the "exposers" any more than the establishment...cos i always wonder "if they are hurting the "scammers" why are they getting away with it in such numbers?

P.S. If you've forgotten your official description, phone up the Federal Department of Statistics and give your PIN-S.S. Number and they'll give you your official corporate identity with regards to who owns you (citizen/subject), Official Purpose (amount of tax revenue you will generate in lifetime), Personality Profile, DNA type, IQ, etc.. Tell them you're still running on FLOPPY, and you'd like to upgrade to HARD disk, and you'd like more RAM. If you'd like to afFORD an upgrade to G.M. (Grand Master). They say it's the only way to go. Or is it better to be a chevalier (which of course is Chevrolet).

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posted November 06, 2010 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message

and an addition to the wealth of links:

Council for National Policy ~or CNP

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wiki

The Council for National Policy (CNP), is an umbrella organization and networking group for social conservative activists in the United States. It has been described by the The New York Times as a “little-known group of a few hundred of the most powerful conservatives in the country,” who meet three times yearly behind closed doors at undisclosed locations for a confidential conference. Nation magazine has called it a secretive organization that “networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy.” It was founded in 1981 by Tim LaHaye as a forum for conservative Christians seeking to strengthen the political right in the United States.

Marc J. Ambinder of ABC News said about the Council: “The group wants to be the conservative version of the Council on Foreign Relations.” The CNP was founded in 1981.

Membership is by invitation only. The membership list, previously made public, is now “strictly confidential.” Guests may attend “only with the unanimous approval of the executive committee.” Members are instructed not to refer to the organization by name, to protect against leaks. New York Times political writer David D. Kirkpatrick suggested that the secrecy since its founding was intended to insulate the Council from the “liberal bias of the news media”.

While those involved are almost entirely from the United States, their organizations and influence cover the globe, both religiously and politically. Members include corporate executives, legislators former high ranking government officers, leaders of ‘think tanks’ dedicated to molding society and those whom many view as “Christian leadership”.

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While the list is now "Strictly Confidential" there is an previously published {partial} list:

Tom Delay
Rudy Giuliani
Oliver North (Iran-Contra criminal, Rex-84)
Erik Prince (Owner of Xe, formerly Blackwater)
John Hagee (Christian-Zionist preacher/paid propagandist for Israel)
Trent Lott
Richard Mellon Scaife (Billionaire newspaper publisher)
Sen. John McCain
Dick Armey
Alan Keyes
John Bolton
Ed Feulner (President of the “conservative” Heritage Foundation)
Steve Forbes
Chuck Missler (Conservative bible teacher)
Dick Cheney
Donald Rumsfeld
Mark Sanford
Alberto Gonzalez
Jack Abramoff (Convicted felon, Zionist, former lobbyist)
Pat Robertson
Jesse Helms
Dr. Edward Teller (Father of the hydrogen bomb)
Paul Weyrich (Co-founder of the Heritage Foundation)
Jack Kemp

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