Lindaland
  Global Unity 2.0
  O'Bomber Most Untrusted President

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   O'Bomber Most Untrusted President
jwhop
Knowflake

Posts: 2178
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 24, 2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Recent Pew data confirms this. The data suggests that most Americans believe that if the President is talking, he is lying. The Pew chart below demonstrates that in a mere 17 months, President Obama has sunk to an unprecedented level of American distrust:

Average Trust in Govt. for Each Administration

Administration
Total Average % Trusting Govt.
Non-Trusting % (author addition)

Barack Obama
22%....Trusted
78%....Untrusted

George W. Bush
37%....Trusted
63%....Untrusted

Bill Clinton
29%....Trusted
71%....Untrusted

George H.W. Bush
36%....Trusted
64%....Untrusted

Ronald Reagan
42%....Trusted
58%....Untrusted

Jimmy Carter
29%....Trusted
71%....Untrusted

Nixon/Ford
40%....Trusted
60%....Untrusted

Kennedy/Johnson
68%....Trusted
32%....Untrusted

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/obamas_credibility_the_big_iss.html

IP: Logged

juniperb
Knowflake

Posts: 410
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 24, 2010 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I agree the mistrust is deepening. I hear the grumbling from this Dem. county/region spreading.

Curious what the trust/mistrust level of Johnson and Humphrey was.

------------------
What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

- George Eliot

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 4930
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 24, 2010 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes mistrust of the establishment is at an all time high. but comparing 17 mos of someone's tenure with the whole of others' is basically apples and oranges. as you were.

and if trust is a reliable marker i would guess FDR was definitely our best ever pres, right? trusted enough for 4 elections!

IP: Logged

jwhop
Knowflake

Posts: 2178
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 25, 2010 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah Juni, people are grumbling all over about O'Bomber's disastrous wet blanket economic, domestic and foreign policy catastrophes.

It is a curious result for Kennedy/Johnson but if Johnson was standing alone, I think the result would be much different.

You know it's bad when demoscats want O'Bomber to be neither seen nor heard in their states or districts.

Hmmm katatonic,

Roosevelt was so trusted that immediately after his death we passed the 22nd Amendment limiting the President to only 2 terms in the White House.

I can understand your pique. Bush...both of them, Reagan and even Nixon...more trusted than your Kool-Aid dispensing icon, O'Bomber.

IP: Logged

juniperb
Knowflake

Posts: 410
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 25, 2010 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Yeah Juni, people are grumbling all over about O'Bomber's disastrous wet blanket economic, domestic and foreign policy catastrophes.

Yes, my Independent opinion aside; Mi is a Dem state and things are achanging here. Staunch old timer Dems screaming for change and it isn`t The Obama bandwagon they are looking to jump in.
As the political weather heats up, I see a Republican for Gov here and Dems will take a back seat, seen but not heard.
The days of MI being a manufacturing and Democratic state have floated away ...

------------------
What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

- George Eliot

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 4930
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 26, 2010 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
Roosevelt was so trusted that immediately after his death we passed the 22nd Amendment limiting the President to only 2 terms in the White House - jwhop

yes AFTER his death. we elected him four times all the same. it was the politicians who limited the term...

IP: Logged

jwhop
Knowflake

Posts: 2178
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 27, 2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message

"I see a Republican for Gov here and Dems will take a back seat, seen but not heard."

Hmmmm katatonic

Do you have any idea what's involved in passing a "Constitutional Amendment"?

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 4930
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 27, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i know, jwhop, that a national referendum is not called every time an amendment is tabled. i know that i was a glimmer in my dad's eye when this one was passed. and i know that it is passed by congress, not you and i. so your "we passed the amendment because we didn't trust roosevelt" is a nonstarter, doesn't even get out of the gate.

i also know that how amendments are passed and ratified has nothing to do with the fact that ROOSEVELT WAS ELECTED 4 TIMES which indicates a high degree of "trust of the people" even though then, as now, there were plenty to call him "commie"....

IP: Logged

jwhop
Knowflake

Posts: 2178
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 27, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
"it was the politicians who limited the term..."

An Amendment without the popular support of American citizens isn't going to get passed and become law.

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 4930
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 28, 2010 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
like the income tax amendment?? i don't remember being asked, were you? who was? you said "we" passed the amendment, totally false. you say the people must want it, well i don't think that was any truer then than now. the legislators pass amendments.

did the people also want prohibition? maybe some of them, but it was such a dismal failure because NOT VERY MANY were happy with it. who asked them before it was passed?

The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention. The Congress proposes an amendment in the form of a joint resolution. Since the President does not have a constitutional role in the amendment process, the joint resolution does not go to the White House for signature or approval. The original document is forwarded directly to NARA's Office of the Federal Register (OFR) for processing and publication. The OFR adds legislative history notes to the joint resolution and publishes it in slip law format. The OFR also assembles an information package for the States which includes formal "red-line" copies of the joint resolution, copies of the joint resolution in slip law format, and the statutory procedure for ratification under 1 U.S.C. 106b.

The Archivist submits the proposed amendment to the States for their consideration by sending a letter of notification to each Governor along with the informational material prepared by the OFR. The Governors then formally submit the amendment to their State legislatures. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution/

IP: Logged

jwhop
Knowflake

Posts: 2178
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 30, 2010 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
You should perhaps go study the passage of the 16th Amendment katatonic....and the talking points used by those in favor.

Yes, a 2/3 vote in the Congress or a 2/3 majority of states is a very high hurdle to pass a Constitutional Amendment. That's why they're rare.

Of course, nothing you've said bears on the fact O'Bomber is the most untrusted President in recent history....for good reasons.

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 4930
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted August 30, 2010 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
why should i study that, jwhop? would it change the fact that "we the people" do not pass amendments, and the legislature does? are you saying the legislature has always acted in concert with the wishes of the people before? many would disagree! from what i heard the 16th wasn't even properly ratified. some things never change do they?

as to the "people" not trusting obama, well when a scary percentage of the people believe that obama is a muslim and not even american, that is hardly surprising is it? these are the same people that swallow whole the "humble" tears of glenn beck and sean hannity, get goosebumps at their rallies (no religious fervour there, huh?) and are otherwise duped by the 24/7 media smear against obama.

it's fine with me if the november elections bring in some more balance. that is what usually happens when one party gets too much say in washington. happened to reagan, clinton and gw too. proves nothing about "leftists" or obama.

and just for the record let me note once again that you can't take it when others dish your own medicine back to you! coming AT you it's a hate fest, coming from you it's the saving of us all. NOT.

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright 2010

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a