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jwhop
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posted October 02, 2010 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Yep that's right; all the grubby, greasy collectivists who have been trying for 100 years to overthrow the United States will be in Washington DC in support of O'Bomber and his Marxist Socialist Progressive agenda.

Groups like La Raza..."The Race" who are attempting to wrest the American Southwest away from the United States to give back to Mexico.

Groups like the Communist Party USA which fawns over every word out of the mouth of their Marxist Messiah O'Bomber.

Groups like the Democratic Socialists of America which endorsed O'Bomber and contributed money and bodies to his campaign.

Groups like labor unions which are so far to the left they make Karl Marx look like a conservative.

They'll all be there today to assist O'Bomber to bring about "change THEY can believe in"; a Marxist Socialist Progressive "Change" for America.

But mainstream Americans...which IS "most" Americans aren't buying O'Bomber's Marxist Socialist Progressive nonsense. His congressional comrades are making plans for other careers after November 2nd and their staffers have cranked up the fax machines to send out their pitiful resumes.

Americans say... don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

October 02, 2010
The Other America Marches on Washington
By Kyle-Anne Shiver

Yes, folks, there are two Americas: the authentic America of community builders and the other America, made up of socialist group-thinkers, moochers, and no-accounts, many of them living off government grants or welfare checks.

The tension between these two Americas has been a constant tug-of-war for nearly a hundred years, since our premier socialist-progressive president, Woodrow Wilson, bore the first rotten fruits of liberal fascism on our shores.

With the election of the first socialist-progressive president in decades, the political tension between the two Americas has reached fever pitch. Independent voters, who were lulled like sheep into the lion's den by Barack Obama's conciliatory, I’ll-make-it-all-better rhetoric, have been expressing buyer's remorse for many long months and now yell "Change it back!" as loudly as they shouted "Yes we can!" less than two short years ago.

Obama lied; hope died. And all over the land, Obama's Intolerable Acts are causing authentic America to rise to her feet in surly indignation. Americans are putting their hope back in God, where it belongs, and vowing to cut big government back down to its constitutionally mandated size.

Authentic Americans -- those patriots with a profound respect for our U.S. Constitution and do-it-yourself ingenuity, the Americans who prefer liberty to nanny-state-provided luxury -- held a march on Washington on August 28. The event drew more than 300,000 people. True to their good citizenship, these authentic Americans honored the sacrifices of our forebears in speech and song and afterward left the whole scene immaculate.

This Saturday, October 2, the other America is set to hold its counter-rally, hoping to inspire their like-minded socialist group-thinkers, moochers, and no-accounts to vote a month from now so that they can continue their mad-dog raiding of the producers' profits and tighten the big-government stranglehold on authentic America.

The other America is calling October 2 the "One Nation Rally." Now, there's a real side-buster. They represent the one nation whose every roof and meal are subsidized by the authentic America. They should have held this demand-o-rama on May 5 in solidarity with their fellow socialist travelers around the world.

Who knows how many people will show up, but every far-left community agitating group is on board and is sure to bus in as many warm bodies as they all can find. Knowing the left's penchant for agitprop, we might expect hundreds of gutter-dwellers dressed up in business attire or lots of white-coated "doctors" or scads of Wiccan witches wearing soccer-mom outfits. Perhaps Barbara Boxer -- who thought authentic Americans looked too "well-dressed" to be anything other than "astroturf" protesters -- will be on hand to coordinate the left’s agitprop costumes for the day.

The national chairman of the Communist Party USA posted an urgent appeal for warm bodies on Obama's Organizing for America website:

Which brings me to the One Nation rally on October 2 in our nation's capital. Here is an opportunity to reestablish, reenergize, and repower the coalition of people's organization that elected the first African American president in our nation's history.

Opportunities of this kind are rare. But when they arise, they have to be seized. No stone should be left unturned to bring people and their organizations to Washington. This event's success will be measured by its size. A huge turnout will change the political atmosphere and send a message to friend and foe.

At least the Communist Party USA is more honest than President Obama. They come right out and tell the people they demand equalizing tyranny with a yes-we-can end to the American dream of liberty and the individual pursuit of happiness. Of course, Barack Obama knew he had to rely on deceiving authentic America to get elected. Now, he needs the CPUSA to get out their rusty hammers and sickles to beat the producers back into line.

Another of my favorite groups on the list of One Nation Rally promoters is Code Pink. Oh, how we've all missed those tawdry women of questionable virtue, wearing their pink undies to the halls of congress, running around like screaming banshees demanding an end to "Bush's War" and trying to close down officer recruitment centers.

While the MSM inundates us with stories about Christine O'Donnell's momentary dabble with witchcraft on a high school date, the real Wiccans of Code Pink cast their spells on the Marines in the here and now. Circled around their cauldron, donning pink robes with their faces smeared with red paint (symbolizing the blood of their victims), Code Pink wackos staged a spell-casting event right in front of the Marine officer recruiting center in Berkeley a mere two years ago. This was right before they suddenly turned their spells to drumming up support and bundling lots of money for the election of Mr. Hope & Change. Can't wait to see if they bring their cauldron to the One Nation Rally. Now that would surely be extreme in the extreme.

Of course, even though the One Nation website says there are over four hundred community agitating groups supporting them, the major players here will be the unions. They've got the UAW, the AFL/CIO, AFSCME, and the SEIU all lined up, along with a variety of smaller types and "professional" associations.
http://www.onenationworkingtogether.org/partners

Now, as many readers will recall, when the SEIU is involved, things are likely to get ugly. There can be biting off of fingers, assault and battery, destruction of private property. Of course, these violent acts are normally aimed at those authentic Americans who just happen to be exercising their own First Amendment rights, but whenever or wherever SEIU thugs show up, it's a sure bet that they will be uncivil.

Reading the list of One Nation sponsor groups is very enlightening. Their organizations -- each and every one -- stand for some very exclusive special interest group. Whether it is the transgenders or the Queers for Economic Justice or the dozen or more groups that specify themselves as "black" or "negro" or the public-school teachers' union or the women who've turned pink into an ugly word -- you have to have a special interest to join. And you have to have your hand out begging for government money.

No wonder this other America is so hot and bothered by the welcome-mat policy of the Tea Parties. The Tea Parties, with their come-one-come-all politics, threaten the very existence of every special interest group on the left.

These group-thinkers, moochers, and no-accounts of the left know that if the government is tamed back to its constitutionally mandated size and scope, then their free ride is over for good.

And they’ll have to stop their professional rabble-rousing and go out to find real jobs or start real businesses of their own. Growing up is hard to do, and slacker kids of any age will do all they can to avoid it.

Hence this One Nation rally and all the hoopla the state-sponsored media can throw in its direction. What a sham.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/the_other_america_marches_on_w.html

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posted October 02, 2010 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
made up of socialist group-thinkers, moochers, and no-accounts, many of them living off government grants or welfare checks.

they are going to have to decide whether the left is made up of the wealthy, as has been said over and over again right here on these pages, or the underclass moochers as said above...

most of the people who voted for obama have NO connection to any of the aforementioned groups. god forbid, though, that we think as a nation and include everyone in our thinking....heresy!

While the MSM inundates us with stories about Christine O'Donnell's momentary dabble with witchcraft it was christine odonnell who said she was a wiccan, not that she dabbled on a single date in her teens...it was also she who claimed to have gone to several prestigious universities none of which have ever had her on their books...perhaps she attended them the way steve jobs did mine, without ever registering...?

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posted October 02, 2010 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
interestingly germany, whose economy hardly faltered in the global blowout and is doing just fine now thanks, has laws that make a LIVING WAGE mandatory, insurance for everyone mandatory, and the federal govt even subsidized those companies who were temporarily struggling with costs and helped them pay their workers so PEOPLE COULD KEEP BUYING things...and yet there are plenty of wealthy capitalists in germany. go figure!!

an american ex-pat in germany was quoted in michael moore's "sicko" as saying "in america the people are afraid of the government, but in europe the governments are afraid of the people.." sounds really downtrodden, wouldn't you say?

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posted October 02, 2010 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message

and this

the real Wiccans of Code Pink cast their spells on the Marines in the here and now. Circled around their cauldron, donning pink robes with their faces smeared with red paint (symbolizing the blood of their victims),

is an insult to wicca! you should really move to salem, jwhop, i hear the witchhunt energy is still strong there. knock yourself out!!

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posted October 02, 2010 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
and last but definitely not least, how on earth does a demonstration POUND people into submission? it is more likely to discredit obama than have any other effect...don't you support free speech and demos even by those you don't like? as you have said you do?

who made you the judge of whether they are "true" americans or not?

jwhop i don't know what it is you are so afraid of...that jpmorgan etc will not be able to run the world anymore? that individuals will have choice even if they are disabled/black/"queer"? that ALL THE PEOPLE will be able to tell the govt what to do?

no one is trying to turn this place into a gulag. except maybe jp morgan, etc. seen the latest on the tens of thousands of people whose homes were foreclosed without due process? don't you find that charming? throw the lazy buggers in the street, even if they AREN"T behind on their payments...but whatever you do don't make it illegal to do so!

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posted October 02, 2010 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Didn't expect to see you...and some others here today katatonic.

What happened? Did the Socialist rally end early?


I can see why you'd prefer Chris Coons over the conservative Christine O’Donnell katatonic.

Coons self described himself as a "Bearded Marxist..i.e., a communist".

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posted October 02, 2010 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Kat, you went right for the line I'd have gone for. "Group think"? Us? Really? That's hilarious. It would be difficult for any group to match Conservative group think. You've got Jwhop's darling FoxNews drawing the only audience in cable news, and they don't even really do what any of us would consider to be the news. You've got the nationwide radio networks of Conservatives, which I can only assume also beats liberal radio hands down. I think Conservatives would be completely lost without their talking heads (or maybe they'd actually be better informed). "Group think"...that's funny!

And then, of course, the unaccountable moochers that are the better Capitalists in our society.

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posted October 03, 2010 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well acoustic, the something for nothing crowd...the crowd which elected O'Bomber are most certainly better moochers than conservatives.

Conservatives make their money the old fashioned way; they work for it instead of running with their hands out to government.

But, the free lunch is almost over. Enjoy it while you still can.

Btw, did you enjoy rubbing elbows with all your little Marxist Socialist Progressive fiends?

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posted October 03, 2010 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I think Conservatives are fantastic moochers. How much did Bush put us in debt to China for? That's not making money the old fashioned way. Maybe you should look to America's top two richest people for what Capitalists look like.

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posted October 03, 2010 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
The Bush borrowing, deficits and debt are to O'Bomber's what a thimble of water is to a bathtub full.

You been nibbling at the magic mushrooms with your socialist comrades acoustic?

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jwhop you are so full of it, don't your ears itch with the discharge? you claim to believe in free speech but every line is full of attempts to belittle, marginalize and otherwise nullify anyone who doesn't agree with sarah palin...

fortunately for christine o donnell i am not in her state. unfortunately for the lying, unscrupulous, belligerent miz meg whitman i am in hers.

and no, i don't trek to washington for rallies, nor does ed schulz who organized yesterday's rally get handouts from the government...i think it's sooo interesting that you consider civil rights groups to be looking for handouts when the CONSTITUTION guarantees EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL and they represent people whose rights are STILL being denied them..since when is expecting equal treatment looking for a handout?

i don't spend my time listening to the MOST MAINSTREAM MEDIA of all, fox "news" - and by mainstream i mean MOST AVAILABLE across the nation (and not by popular demand but by pervasively abundant supply) - or trawling the internet for other people's opinions...which would define a GROUPTHINKER perfectly.

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posted October 03, 2010 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
October 03, 2010
What if they gave a rally and only a few people showed up
Ethel C. Fenig

The One Nation Working Together rally sure has a tiny population. As the AP so delicately phrased it, reporting on the rally's attendance, merely "thousands of people"--not tens or hundreds of thousands as with the descriptions of Glenn Beck's rally last month--punctuated with "sparse groups," roused themselves to the nation's capital, despite free bus rides and that ever popular free lunch offered by the unions and other rally organizers.

John Avlon of the Daily Beast admits that compared to the Beck rally

Yes, the music was better and the crowd more diverse, but this rally provided plenty of evidence the Wingnuts on the loony left are alive and well.

A pregame rally south of the Washington Monument featured drum circles and papier maché puppets. President Obama was called an "imperialist president" who was insensitive to the "African community" and "the 2.5 million people in concentration camps called prisons."

"We recognize that the U.S. government is waging the same kind of war-a counterinsurgency," warned the woman on the makeshift stage "that it is waging against the people of Afghanistan-against the people of the African community right here inside the U.S."

Signs from the group A.N.S.W.E.R.-Act Now to Stop War and End Racism-dotted the crowd more than any other. Presumably, the attendees didn't know that this anodyne message came from the group that held an "anti-war and anti-racist rally" less than two weeks after the attacks of September 11th. This is the reflexive left, always indulging a blame America first impulse that creates a stereotype that is used to discredit mainstream Democrats.**Note, A.N.S.W.E.R. is a communist front organization for Worker's World Party...A Stalinist Communist group.**

And good for Avlon for finally mentioning the outright bigotry infecting large and major segments the anti war, pro union, supposedly anti racist left.

The curious and relatively recent migration of anti-Semitism to the left was evident in signs that read "End All U.S. Aid to the Racist State of Israel" and "Fund Jobs, Not Israel." I cringed as these marchers crowded past a group of World War II vets from Columbus, Ohio, being wheeled to their war memorial as part of the excellent "Honor Flight" program.

(Not so curious and only recent to those who haven't studied leftist words and actions for the past 150 years or so. The USSR and its international usefully evil idiots are a major example.)

Today's protesters, uhm, ralliers, or really spoiled brats no matter their age, left behind piles of garbage for others, presumably union garbage people, to clean up. Oh sure, they did it deliberately to guarantee these laborers would have work unlike the selfish Beck attendees who cleaned up after themselves leaving behind virtually no trash.

Onwards to the Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert rallies to end the month which should at least be goofy fun.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/10/what_if_they_gave_a_rally_and.html

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yes stopping war and ending racism are certainly dastardly goals. MUST be a communist front!

and it seems even your american thinker now recognizes that the "loony" left doesn't consider obama one of their own. oops hoist in one's own petard, i mean post, once more!!

jwhop your idealization of war only makes it obvious that you have never been in one. most honest combat vets would tell you that an end to war would be one of the greatest things that ever happened on earth. yes the camaraderie is super and it's great to see how much horror you can survive, and to have done your duty, but it is a primitive way of solving differences and a waste of life and money.

i don't know how loony the people there were yesterday and i certainly wouldn't take the american stinker's word for it, since he probably didn't notice the vets who were IN the crowd, nor anything else that might have been redeeming about the event...oh wait, he did observe that "the music was better and the crowd more diverse"...could it possibly be that the left may not feel rallies are the be-all end-all but still encompass a broader crossection of the population - horrors! you will have to find a new writer now, this one obviously has some traitorous instincts that allow for HUMANITY in the opposition!!

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posted October 03, 2010 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
First katatonic:

Fox News is no more available on cable than CNN and MSNBC...so katatonic, there goes that argument.

The fact is katatonic that more, many more Americans WATCH Fox news than CNN and MSNBC.

As for Meg Whitman, I hope you're going to enjoy having her sitting in the Governors mansion in Sacramento! Jerry Brown IS, always WAS and WILL continue to be a loony-tunes hack politician. Governor Moonbeam ring any bells for you?

Lastly katatonic, it's a matter of record that International A.N.S.W.E.R. IS a communist front organization for the Worker's World Party. A Stalinist communist group which drools at every word which escapes the lips of the little madman Kim Jong Ill of North Korea. Perhaps you should ask your Socialist pals at A.N.S.W.E.R. why their little communits idol...Kim Jong Ill starved about 2 million of his subjects to death and had the others out in the fields cutting grass and collecting tree bark to boil for their meals.

Gee katatonic, I can't even give you any style points for this effort.

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i really don't care what kind of points you do or don't give me, once again you have completely missed the point and dragged out your kindergarten playground "STYLE" to try to lump me in with those "greasy, grubby" socialists - many of whom you complain are amongst the richest in the land and certainly neither greasy nor grubby - in an attempt to discredit me. i don't know anyone in ANSWER, nor anyone who went to this rally either! fancy that...but i still see NOTHING WRONG IN BEING AGAINST WAR AND RACISM. do you?

are you going to agree that you are FOR war and racism? or shall i lump you in with them too?

considering what you call style i'm not even mildly offended jwhop! the only way you can think of to defeat an argument is to say the other person is a green martian or pinko commie....devastating!

they have as much right to rally as anyone else, and at least they're not trying to buck themselves up with MLK jrs unknown niece and the anniversary of one of the most famous speeches in modern history.

as for meg whitman her former maid/nanny/dogsbody can testify that her attitude towards a huge portion of the ca population is VERY BAD NEWS. so unless she gets them with her checkbook, she just lost a ton of votes. while brown is so HATED that he was elected twice for governor, and has been elected numerous times since for other california positions...

i wonder how that boy who knocked up "bristol the pistol" (another great cheerleader slogan from ma) is doing in his mayoral race in wasilla?

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Meg Whitman hired her through an employment agency where the illegal alien presented false identification which belonged to her sister.

In other words, her illegal alien maid...whom the Whitmans were paying $23 per hour.... falsified documents.

She also made false statements on a government form.

The idiot Jerry Brown and the illegal alien's attorney Gloria All-red placed her in jeopardy to be deported. In legal terms, that's malpractice.

Gloria All-red is nothing but a tool and mouthpiece for the Brown campaign but it's not going to help Brown and may in fact hurt him with voters.

As to Meg Whitman, there's no there...there. There's no basis for a lawsuit and the Whitman's did nothing wrong. As soon as they found out the maid was an illegal alien, they terminated her employment...in accordance with the law.

Funny how none of the crap you throw on the walls ever sticks katatonic.

considering only 2 communist governments...Stalin and Mao murdered approximately 200 million of their own citizens, I have a hell of a lot against communists. I also have little regard for anyone so stupid as to join the communists...considering the facts of what these murderous dictators did in the Soviet Union and Communist China.

Nevertheless katatonic, you are always in defense of Socialists and Socialism.

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Meg Whitman hired her through an employment agency where the illegal alien presented false identification which belonged to her sister.

In other words, her illegal alien maid...whom the Whitmans were paying $23 per hour.... falsified documents.

She also made false statements on a government form.

The idiot Jerry Brown and the illegal alien's attorney Gloria All-red placed her in jeopardy to be deported. In legal terms, that's malpractice.

Gloria All-red is nothing but a tool and mouthpiece for the Brown campaign but it's not going to help Brown and may in fact hurt him with voters.

As to Meg Whitman, there's no there...there. There's no basis for a lawsuit and the Whitman's did nothing wrong. As soon as they found out the maid was an illegal alien, they terminated her employment...in accordance with the law.

Funny how none of the crap you throw on the walls ever sticks katatonic.

considering only 2 communist governments...Stalin and Mao murdered approximately 200 million of their own citizens, I have a hell of a lot against communists. I also have little regard for anyone so stupid as to join the communists...considering the facts of what these murderous dictators did in the Soviet Union and Communist China.

Nevertheless katatonic, you are always in defense of Socialists and Socialism.

The idiots at A.N.S.W.E.R. and the Worker's World Party are not in any way against war or racism. They're against the United States and never miss an opportunity to march or rally against the US.

The anti-war, anti-racism bullshiiit is rhetoric...like social justice designed to con the useful idiots.

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October 04, 2010
Progressives and Communists: Out of the Closet -- Together
By Paul Kengor

A close look at the Saturday "One Nation" rally in Washington reveals something quite telling. It was a major gathering of the "progressive" left, highly billed, vigorously promoted. And it happened to include -- in fact, it warmly accepted -- the endorsement of Communist Party USA.

Expectedly, a bunch of the rally's endorsers carried the word "progress" or "progressive" in their title, from People’s Organization for Progress to Progressive Democrats of America. More still unhesitatingly describe themselves as progressive, from racial eugenicist Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood to Norman Lear's heirs at People for the American Way, plus the usual suspects from the "social justice" Religious Left.

And then, too, there was CPUSA.

Why is this so remarkable? It's remarkable because historically, communist involvement at these rallies has been meticulously concealed, hidden from progressives, with the communists using the progressives as props -- as dupes. That the two sides here, on Saturday, happily accepted one another, proudly uniting, shows how far to the left progressives have moved, not to mention their unflagging confidence under the ascendancy of Obama-Pelosi-Reid.

My personal experience on this is very instructive. I've chronicled how communists, for a century now, cunningly manipulated progressives, surreptitiously drawing them into their rallies, protests, and petitions, not letting themselves (or their intentions) be known. I have fliers from marches sixty and seventy years ago, with many of the same endorsers that were there on Saturday, but with CPUSA's name smartly absent, even as CPUSA members canvassed the rally, if not spearheading it.

Back then, the communists' stunning successes suckering progressives shocked even Moscow. They fooled them right up to the front gates of the White House in the summer of 1940, where the hideous communist front the American Peace Mobilization duped even the New York Times into headlining it as a "clergy group." They pulled off an extraordinary stunt in Chicago in the summer of 1968, sabotaging the Democratic National Convention. Communists managed to enlist progressives into undermining their own Democratic presidents and parties and platforms.

As an indicator of the success and duration of this manipulation, consider this fact:
When Congress, in December 1961, published its seminal investigation of communist fronts, titled "Guide to Subversive Organizations and Publications," a product of research dating to the founding of the American Communist Party in Chicago in 1919, the most popular index listing started with the word "Progressive." It was progressive groups that were misled, used, abused, and infiltrated more than any other.

How long has this continued? All the way to the 2008 election.

Consider the group Progressives for Obama, formed during Obama's presidential bid. It was loaded with and even founded by some hardcore communists from the 1960s. Consider merely two of them: Tom Hayden,(**Who currently writes for Huffington Post**) one of the group's four founders, and Mark Rudd, one of the 94 original signers. Hayden and Rudd had been leaders of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), which subverted the policies and plans of Democratic presidents ranging from Vietnam to the 1968 convention. In 2008, both Hayden and Rudd suddenly reemerged as "Progressives for Obama."

Rudd’s take on how Obama won the 2008 election is shrewd -- and dead on. Understanding that moderates and independents made the difference, Rudd noted the crucial importance of Obama not openly conceding his far-left views. Rudd wrote,

Obama is a very strategic thinker. He knew precisely what it would take to get elected and didn’t blow it. But he also knew that what he said had to basically play to the center to not ... scare centrist and cross-over voters away. He made it. ... And I agree with this strategy. ... Any other strategy invites sure defeat. It would be stupid to do otherwise in this environment.

Basically, what Rudd said is that Obama hoodwinked "centrist" and "cross-over" voters. As Rudd rightly put it, Obama couldn't be candid about his true intentions in "this environment." That's an environment where Americans, in poll after poll, have described themselves as "conservative" over "liberal" by a margin of 2:1, by approximately 40% to 20%, for decades now. Incredibly, those numbers were unchanged even on November 4, 2008, when Obama easily won the election.(**Which proves my point that leftists have to lie to voters to get themselves elected**)

Thus, a candidate like Obama can succeed only by pushing his agenda guardedly. He ran as a centrist, not as National Journal's certified "most liberal senator in 2007." It worked. As Rudd put it, Obama "didn't blow it."

America’s exalted moderates and independents were duped by a nebulous, catch-all-be-all banner of "change." Now, the progressives are in power, ready to implement the kind of change they had in mind all along.

And now, with Obama having secured victory, the likes of Rudd and Hayden -- shocked that the electorate finally voted for their kind of guy -- have been less circumspect about their intentions. Rudd urges, "Here's my mantra: 'Let's put this country on our shoulders and get to work.'"

Rudd has rolled up his sleeves, as have his erstwhile comrades.

And that was precisely what spilled into the streets on Saturday, October 2 in the "One Nation" rally, fittingly centralized in Washington. This time, however, the collective was unafraid, buttressed by a confidence that coaxed the communists out of the closet and into the welcoming arms of "progressives."

Gee, you'd think that after the collapse of the USSR and the Berlin Wall, and after 100 million corpses, progressives would be fleeing communists like the plague.

The election of Obama-Pelosi-Reid in November 2008 -- by America's "independents" and "moderates" -- has dawned a new day for the American Left -- or, at least perhaps, until November 2010. We shall see.

Paul Kengor is professor of political science at Grove City College. His books include The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism and the newly released Dupes: How America’s Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/progressives_and_communists_ou_1.html

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once again you put 2+2 together and get 5. if the left are so fond of obama why are they protesting his policies and actions? AS IN YOUR FIRST POST?

President Obama was called an "imperialist president" who was insensitive to the "African community" and "the 2.5 million people in concentration camps called prisons."

"We recognize that the U.S. government is waging the same kind of war-a counterinsurgency," warned the woman on the makeshift stage "that it is waging against the people of Afghanistan-against the people of the African community right here inside the U.S."


correction, meg whitman SAYS she only just found out. it's her word against that of someone who stands to be deported for coming forward, who says whitman knew for YEARS about her status...we shall see, shan't we? i heard a rumour that in the US one is innocent till proven guilty...that goes for both sides!

and like i said, brown has been elected over and over again by californians. seems they might like him, dontcha think?

and you know, jwhop, i am no communist but i have met a few, and a few socialists, and they have no problem being americans. that doesn't mean they like everything about the country or the way it is owned by the moneymen...i actually see striking similarities between the weathermen rhetoric and yours...and i didn't agree with their reliance on violence or the "ability to defend themselves against tyranny" either.

not all socialists want to lock you up or kill you jwhop. they just want you to admit we're all in this together and that the fact you won't put up an extra two pennies a week to keep someone from being homeless means your home is at risk...etc. of course if you like playing dirty harry the super-poor don't present any threat or sympathy, right?

and they(socialists) don't think it should be okay for the bigboy banks to throw them out of their homes without even proper process on their loans as has just been uncovered bigtime...a lot of those foreclosures should never have happened, nor should some of us still in our homes have had to bang heads with the mortgage depts to hold on to what we've been paying for for 20 years...a lot of people asked for it, yes, but a lot didn't!

i don't want a communist govt anymore than you do. but you insist on seeing only one side of the vise...why is that?

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When you say THEY were protesting O'Bomber's policies, that's stretching the truth a whole bunch.

A few, a very few were protesting O'Bomber's policies but were totally on board with the O'Bomber Marxist Socialist Progressive agenda.

What's pi$$ed them off is that O'Bomber isn't moving fast enough...for them...to institute a Marxist Socialist Progressive government in the United States.

You need to get your facts straight.

Beyond that, O'Bomber is going to be facing a new Congress in January, 2011 and that Congress is not going to be down with O'Bomber's Marxist Socialist Progressive agenda.

Who would have thought the most radical leftist president in American history would destroy...in the eyes of the American electorate....the radical movement he represents and, in less than 2 years!

O'Bomber could have not done a better job of that if he were a conservative plant.

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posted October 04, 2010 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
When you say THEY were protesting O'Bomber's policies, that's stretching the truth a whole bunch.

A few, a very few were protesting O'Bomber's policies but were totally on board with the O'Bomber Marxist Socialist Progressive agenda.

What's ****** them off is that O'Bomber isn't moving fast enough...for them...to institute a Marxist Socialist Progressive government in the United States.

You need to get your facts straight.

Beyond that, O'Bomber is going to be facing a new Congress in January, 2011 and that Congress is not going to be down with O'Bomber's Marxist Socialist Progressive agenda.

Who would have thought the most radical leftist president in American history would destroy...in the eyes of the American electorate....the radical movement he represents and, in less than 2 years!

O'Bomber could have not done a better job of that if he were a conservative plant.

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repetition is getting out of hand, love! and i have to say that i think it is you who are missing the point:

What's pi$$ed them off is that O'Bomber isn't moving fast enough...for them...to institute a Marxist Socialist Progressive government in the United States

exactly. he isn't going there no matter how many times you and our gal sal say he is! what is so hard to comprehend?

but i also found it interesting that you emphasized the fact that the washington crowd wasn't as big as the beck/palin thingy a month ago and failed to notice or remark on the glenn beck rally this weekend which organized for 8000 attendees but hosted only 700...seems not only the left are overestimating their pulling power!

did you also notice that though the tickets at said rally at 6 flags were $50, $125 would buy you a meet with the man himself? wouldn't YOU just love to be a product too?

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You're hopelessly behind the curve katatonic.

The O'Bomberbots thought O'Bomber would usher in their little Marxist utopia..immediately.

What these idiots didn't understand and still don't understand is that this is a center-right population which wouldn't stand still for the O'Bomber agenda and we haven't.

There are those on the far left calling for a dictator. Here's your little leftist moron Ed Schultz calling for O'Bomber to act like a dictator.
http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-ed-schultz-calls-for-obama-to-act-as-dictator/

O'Bomber isn't really very smart but he's smart enough to know he's not going to be able to pull off a total lurch to a Soviet, Cuban, Chinese, North Korean type Socialist gulag state in one fell swoop.

He's not even going to be able to pull off a single payer health care system..though he favors that system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ-6ebku3_E&feature=player_embedded

Only the idiots on the left ever thought that was possible.

Now, it's all up in smoke because it's out in the open. O'Bomber and his Socialist comrades in Congress, in the press and at Socialist groups...like daily kos, like move-on and other George Soros groups showed their hand and tried to force a leftist revolution on Americans.

No Sale, and now, their power base in the Congress is coming to an end. I can't remember an election voters have looked forward to more than the election on November 2nd.

Call it Socialist chickens coming home to roost.

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posted October 04, 2010 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
you have a short memory! the obama election was so looked forward to you were crying messiah-mania, remember? if you don't others do...

anyway as i have said i approve of the checks and balances and do not approve of a one-party government. unlike the conservatives (thinking of those on this page in particular) who want EVERYTHING 100% their way or the highway. its not going to happen that way either, jwhop. and if you think the religious right is going to waltz in and take over, the big boys have news waiting for you too!

i repeat, why can you only see one side of the picture/this country/politics? you insist on putting me on the "other" side but i am an american too. and not by default (i actually have taken a long personal look at other places) but by choice...which is more than i can say for you and a lot of other people who are american (or anti socialist/foreigner/nonchristian, you name your poison) largely by ignorance.

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