posted June 19, 2011 11:57 AM            

Oh, and don't try that..."you can't prove" dodge on me acoustic.

There's lots of things which can't be proved by those who believe they're true. Like for instance...O'Bomber attended Occidental College...or Columbia University or Harvard Law School. O'Bomber has never made his university admission records available...or his University grade transcripts either.

So acoustic, did O'Bomber ever attend Occidental, Columbia or Harvard? And, if you think so...then prove it with factual data.

posted June 20, 2011 12:40 PM            

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Well, given that Rasmussen Reports is the most accurate polling agency in the United States

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This is NOT a given.

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reasonable, logical, rational people would believe their polls....when Rasmussen says 58% of likely voters want O'BomberCare repealed.

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As always, you have no idea what reasonable, rational people would or should believe. You are not amongst their ranks. FYI, Rasmussen's page puts the percentage at 53%.

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Oh, and don't try that..."you can't prove" dodge on me acoustic.

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It's not a "dodge." You can't prove any such thing, and you don't dictate the terms of any debate here. I do enjoy your attempts at manipulating debates, but I personally won't hear of it.

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There's lots of things which can't be proved by those who believe they're true. Like for instance...O'Bomber attended Occidental College...or Columbia University or Harvard Law School. O'Bomber has never made his university admission records available...or his University grade transcripts either.

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Pretty shoddy work there trying to make that point.

Barack Obama attended Occidental College from fall 1979 through spring 1981 and then transferred to Columbia University in New York. He is not a graduate of Occidental; however, the Occidental College Alumni Association bylaws state that anyone who completes at least eight courses of undergraduate work (or a year of graduate studies) is eligible for alumni status when their class graduates. http://www.oxy.edu/x7992.xml

Barack Obama '83 became the first College alumnus to be elected President of the United States. http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama-83-becomes-first-college-alumnus-to-win-presidency

It was as a law student that Obama first made history—and national headlines—when he was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law Review in the spring of 1990. http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/obama-at-hls.html

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So acoustic, did O'Bomber ever attend Occidental, Columbia or Harvard? And, if you think so...then prove it with factual data.

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posted June 20, 2011 02:10 PM            

beyond a reasonable doubt, it looks like he attended and was noted NOT for ideological extremism but for being a mediator bringing opposing factions together. heinous!

now, jwhop, can you prove your claim that he did NOT go to those schools? that he was not working between college and law school? there is no burden on the defense except to prove the claimant cannot prove his claim. of course all his schools could be lying...but it seems unlikely, doesn't it? i mean, in the real world.

posted June 20, 2011 02:58 PM            

Reasonable, logical, rational people look at the results of past polling results on issues and conclude Rasmussen gets it right.

58% of likely voters want O'BomberCare repealed...that is if the US Supreme Court doesn't rule O'BomberCare unconstitutional when the lawsuit gets there.

For my own purposes, I'd rather see O'BomberCare declared unconstitutional...as a block to any further Socialist health care scheme.

I made no claims that O'Bomber DID NOT attend Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

And btw, lots of people would still like to see O'Bomber's admission records and his grade transcripts. You know, like Bush put out for Yale and Harvard.

Or, do you think O'Bomber is a priveleged character. He sure thinks he is.

The most transparent presidency in history! In a pig's eye.

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58% of likely voters want O'BomberCare repealed...that is if the US Supreme Court doesn't rule O'BomberCare unconstitutional when the lawsuit gets there.

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I JUST corrected your percentage as listed on Rasmussen's home page. Who are you trying to fool?

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I made no claims that O'Bomber DID NOT attend Occidental, Columbia or Harvard.

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Not taking responsibility for your assertions again? Is this going to become a habit?

"So acoustic, did O'Bomber ever attend Occidental, Columbia or Harvard? And, if you think so...then prove it with factual data."

You asked the question, AND asked for proof. If you're making no claims, why are you asking for proof? No dodgy splitting hairs is going to fly here.

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And btw, lots of people would still like to see O'Bomber's admission records and his grade transcripts. You know, like Bush put out for Yale and Harvard.

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posted June 20, 2011 06:11 PM            

In fact, George W. Bush has openly released his Yale University undergraduate transcript. As you can see, Bush truly was a solid C student. He never got an A in anything the entire time that he was in college (although he never got a D or an F either). Bush almost got As in history and anthropology, and earned a high pass in Japanese, of all things. However, he received a 71 and a 73 respectively in his two political science and government classes. His lowest grade was in sociology — a 70.

posted June 23, 2011 09:36 AM            

Rasmussen is the most accurate political polling organization in America...based on PERFORMANCE.

I said 58% want O'BomberCare repealed.

This issue is polled weekly going back to March, 2010.

Repeal O'BomberCare has polled as high as 63%. I chose the more conservative number of 58%.

Twaddle, twaddle everywhere and no meat..at least on leftist arguments.

Bush did not release his personal records....because people were calling him stupid.

Bush released his grade transcripts and military records because the drooling demoscat political activists posing as journalists flogged the issue to death...but never were interested at all in John Traitor Kerry's military records...which still have not been released by John Traitor Kerry.

However, something good did come of it. Dan Blather got his sorry ass canned by CBS for airing lying forged documents about Bush to try to swing the election to John Traitor Kerry AND, we found out that Bush has a higher IQ than John Traitor Kerry.

Now, the drooling demoscat political activists and propaganda artists who are posing as journalists have no interest at all in seeing O'Bomber's admission records or grade transcripts. That way, they can continue to say O'Bomber is the most intelligent president ever to hire a revolutionary communist for an administration position.

posted June 23, 2011 09:47 AM            

That spells big trouble for O'BomberCare.

June 23, 2011
Did the Supreme Court Tip its Hand on ObamaCare?
By Frank Miniter

On June 16 the U.S. Supreme Court sent a case (U.S. v. Bond) back to a lower court on Tenth Amendment grounds. The ruling, written by Justice Anthony Kennedy (the Court's "swing vote"), hints that ObamaCare just might be ruled unconstitutional. How? Justice Kennedy's opinion in U.S. v. Bond showed he still believes the federal government is restricted by the enumerated powers as listed in the U.S. Constitution. His viewpoint was expressed in a case the Lifetime network is probably making a movie about right now.

In this case, Carol Anne Bond learned that her best friend, Myrlinda Haynes, was pregnant. Bond thought that was great until she found out that the baby was fathered by her husband of 14 years, Clifford. Naturally, Bond, a microbiologist residing in suburban Philadelphia, wanted revenge. She began in the usual way by threatening Haynes over the telephone: "I [am] going to make your life a living hell." Subsequently, Bond's attempts to make Haynes life a "living hell" got her convicted for harassment in 2005.

Bond, however, was still out for revenge. Bond next smeared poisonous chemicals, such as an arsenic-based chemical (remember she is a microbiologist) on Haynes' car door handle, mailbox, and other places. Haynes got a burn from the chemicals and reported it to the police. The police, however, didn't know what to make of Haynes' claims. But then the U.S. Postal Inspection Service got involved because the mailbox had been tampered with. After its investigation, Bond was charged with a violating U.S. Code, Section 229, a statute that then prompted federal prosecutors to also throw the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention at Bond. Bond subsequently pleaded guilty in federal court and got a six-year sentence and nearly $12,000 in fines and restitution.

The use of this federal treaty on chemical weapons, however, was a bit much, so Bond's lawyers appealed by arguing that using the federal government's Chemical Weapons Convention against Bond is unconstitutional under the Tenth Amendment. ("The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.")

On appeal, the 3rd Circuit then ruled that Bond lacked standing to challenge her conviction, finding that only states, not individuals, can bring challenges under the Tenth Amendment.

With this constitutional question in the balance, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to take the case and heard it last January. Former Solicitor General Paul Clement represented Bond at the Supreme Court hearing. Clement argued that "the structural provisions of the Constitution are there to protect the liberty of citizens." He articulated that states have the authority to resolve their own criminal justice cases -- some international treaty on chemical weapons shouldn't preclude this state right.

Which gets us back to Justice Kennedy and his tell on how he might rule on ObamaCare. Justice Kennedy said at the hearing: "The whole point of separation of powers, the whole point of federalism, is that it inheres to the individual and his or her right to liberty; and if that is infringed by a criminal conviction or in any other way that causes specific injury, why can't it be raised?" This made court watchers wonder if this might forecast how Justice Kennedy might vote on ObamaCare.

Then, on June 16, the Court ruled 9-0 in favor of Bond that the U.S. Congress overstepped its authority by infringing on powers reserved to the states under the Tenth Amendment. (Bond, however, will have to make and win the Tenth Amendment argument in a lower court, as the Supreme Court only sent the case back down to the lower court while saying that Bond can fight her conviction on Tenth Amendment grounds.)

So here's where it gets interesting for those wondering how the Court will vote on ObamaCare. The Obama Administration's argument is that it can mandate that people buy government-approved health insurance under the power the Constitution's Commerce Clause (The U.S. Congress shall have the power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes....") gives the federal government. The Commerce Clause has been viewed to be an expansive power by the Supreme Court; for example, the Court found in Wickard v. Filburn (1942) that the federal government can even regulate whether a farmer can grow wheat for his chickens. But the Court has never found that the government can mandate that citizens actively do something, such as purchase a product. This is why Justice Kennedy's opinion expressed in U.S. v. Bond is interesting, as it indicates his preference for state rights under the Tenth Amendment.

For example, in his opinion on U.S. v. Bond, Kennedy quoted the Supreme Court case New York v. U.S. (1992): "Federalism secures to citizens the liberties that derive from the diffusion of sovereign power." And then Justice Kennedy said, "[Federalism] protects the liberty of all persons within a state by ensuring that laws enacted in excess of delegated governmental power cannot direct or control their actions.... By denying any one government complete jurisdiction over all the concerns of public life, federalism protects the liberty of the individual from arbitrary power. When government acts in excess of its lawful powers, that liberty is at stake. The limitations that federalism entails are not therefore a matter of rights belonging only to the states."

So in U.S. v. Bond Justice Kennedy found that Congress exceeded its constitutional authority. Let's hope he'll do the same when Obamacare makes it to the U.S. Supreme Court.