posted January 06, 2011 10:51 PM            

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you are so obtuse sometimes jwhop. you know perfectly well that you are putting the cart before the horse. no one called the bush tax cuts TAX CUTS FOR THE RIch...katatonic

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Could it be possible I got it wrong. Have my eyes and ears deceived me and no one has ever talked about..."Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich"?

Democrats Unlikely to Repeal Tax Cuts for the Rich http://www.truth-out.org/democrats-unlikely-repeal-tax-cuts-rich62897

Democrats unlikely to repeal tax cuts for the rich http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/09/01/99992/democrats-unlikely-to-repeal-tax.html

Democrat leaders may extend the Bush tax cuts on the rich http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/08/29/democrat-leaders-may-extend-the-bush-tax-cuts-on-the-rich/

Democrats debate extending Bush tax cuts for the rich http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/22/4730581-democrats-debate-extending-bush-tax-cuts-for-the-rich

End Bush's 700 Billion Tax Cut for the Rich http://www.democrats.com/end-bushs-700-billion-tax-cut-for-the-rich

Hoyer: No Bright Lines For Democrats On Bush Tax Cuts For The Rich http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/hoyer-no-bright-lines-for-democrats-on-bush-tax-cuts-for-the-rich.php

Will Democrats Lose Message War Over GOP Tax Cuts for Rich?
https://www.inthesetimes.com/working/entry/6271/will_democrats_lose_message_war_over_gop_tax_cuts_for_the_rich/

Pelosi: End Bush's tax cuts for the rich http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Pelosi-End-Bushs-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-5154053.html

Tell Congress: Don't extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/gwb_tax_cuts/index2.html

Bush Tax Cuts on Rich May Stay http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/bush-tax-cuts-on-rich-may-stay/congress/

No Tax Cut Extension for Wealthiest Americans http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/07/politics/main6843936.shtml

Hahahaha
Google: Bush tax cuts for the rich and you'll only get About 2,000,000 results (0.15 seconds)

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A subchapter S corporation is set up as a subchapter S corporation specifically for tax reasons. It is therefore voluntary on behalf of the shareholders....acoustic

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This is even more lame than your usual acoustic.

posted January 06, 2011 11:20 PM            

President Barack Obama and Democratic congressional leaders have been eager to extend the breaks for individuals who earn less than $200,000 annually and joint filers who make less than $250,000.
http://www.truth-out.org/democrats-unlikely-repeal-tax-cuts-rich62897

(The second article you listed is exactly the same as the first.)

Your third "article" is a blog post, which means it's a Conservative talking about tax cuts for the rich. It links to a nice article from the Washington Post, which states:

"Democrats are having second thoughts about raising taxes on the nation's wealthiest families and are pressing party leaders to consider extending the full array of Bush administration tax cuts, at least through next year."

That's a far cry from the supposed "lie" about Democrats claiming Bush tax cuts were only tax cuts for the rich. Yes, in this case your eyes did deceive you.

And now we come to democrats.org where, yes, they are talking about the Bush tax cuts for the rich. Are they doing so in avoidance of the fact that the Bush tax cuts extended across the spectrum of incomes?

"The first way to cut the debt is to eliminate tax cuts for people who don't need them. And the rich don't need a tax cut - they are rolling in dough while the rest of us struggle to survive." http://www.democrats.com/end-bushs-700-billion-tax-cut-for-the-rich

Is it just me, or does that read "for the people who don't need them"? That implies rather explicitly that Democrats know and acknowledge the tax cuts given elsewhere. This is what I've been saying, Jwhop. Do you get it yet? There has been NO lack of expressing that some of the tax cuts are good or fine.

Next:

"Though Democrats have committed to ensuring that tax cuts for middle-income brackets are extended permanently..."
TPMDC.talkingpointsmemo

posted January 06, 2011 11:52 PM            

This one's a great article. You should read it. Talks about the discredited notion of supply-side economics.

"Democrats, though, are resorting to logic and fact-based appeals to argue against the GOP noise machine. Right-wing propagandists and GOP leaders are arguing that we can't 'raise' taxes in a recession, while Democrats aren't taking an aggressive frontal assault on the GOP's favoritism towards the rich."

"Democrats aren't taking an aggressive frontal assault on the GOP's favoritism towards the rich," he says.

"What Democrats and their progressive allies are failing to do effectively is calling out the GOP's false claims that the administration wants to let all the tax cuts expire, not just for the wealthy. Just like the mantra over "death panels" and the swift-boating of John Kerry, Democrats seem to be assuming that since it's a bald-faced lie, the public won't be be fooled."

Indeed. This definitely isn't proof of your point, Jwhop.
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Next: http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Pelosi-End-Bushs-tax-cuts-for-the-rich-5154053.html

Washington, July 28 (UPI) -- House Democrats want to roll back President George W. Bush 's Tax Cuts for the wealthiest Americans while extending Tax Cuts for the Middle Class.

First sentence. What were you thinking posting these?
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Next: http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/gwb_tax_cuts/index2.html

This article is about as close as you're going to get on what you apparently believed when you created this thread. This author overstated things by saying:

"The snake oil the Bush administration peddled was that the tax cuts, which overwhelmingly went to the rich and the ultra-rich, would spur the economy.

They didn't "overwhelmingly" go to the rich.

Still, that writer only asks that the cuts to the wealthy be revoked, which doesn't ignore or deny the fact that there were other cuts.
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Next: http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/gwb_tax_cuts/index2.html

"While Obama and congressional Democrats agree that the tax cuts should be extended to individuals earning less than $250,000 a year, the president would like to see those who make more start paying pre-2001 rates."

Second sentence, Jwhop.
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Next: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/07/politics/main6843936.shtml

"President Obama will announce in a speech on Wednesday that he will oppose any compromises that extend the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy beyond the end of this year, the New York Times reported Tuesday."

We already know where Obama stood on the issue.

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Hahahaha
Google: Bush tax cuts for the rich and you'll only get About 2,000,000 results (0.15 seconds)

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Yup, and most of them won't find or expose the "lie" you claimed was being put out by the Democrats.

Now, let's go full circle back to the start, shall we? This is what you posted:

Have to love it when leftists get caught in their own lies.

For years...all the way back to 2001, leftists have worn out the old Marxist refrain...Tax Cuts for the Rich.

I've pointed out for years that the Bush Tax Cuts were for all income levels and in addition, that legislation took many totally off the tax paying rolls by adjusting the lowest paying tax rate downward.

Now, leftists have been caught in their lies again...which is the usual given some time.

You claimed that there was some sort of lie based upon the notion of "tax cuts for the rich." You "pointed out for years" you say that tax cuts extended to all income levels. No headline about the "tax cuts for the rich" agrees with your premise. None of them suggest that Democrats are pushing the notion that Bush tax cuts were only for the rich (Yes, this was your original premise, though you've tried to weasel out of that in later posts.) Your back-up for your assertion was in what Obama said about middle class families.

posted January 07, 2011 01:48 PM            

And acoustic, I see that even when your nose is rubbed in the lying leftist rhetoric, you're still arguing that just because lying leftists didn't remtion tax cuts for the middle class and working poor contained within the Bush Tax Cuts going all the way back to 2001...that's what they really meant all along.

Only in fantasy land acoustic.

What the lying leftists were attempting to convey is the the Bush Tax Cuts only benefitted the rich. It's the usual class warfare put forth by Marxist Socialist Progressives.

"And the rich don't need a tax cut"
democrats.com

Let me say to you and the rest of the leftist coven. It's none of your business whether or not the rich "need" tax cuts. In a capitalist society, people work for what they have and it's not the job of government to steal what they've earned to hand over to those who sit on their as$es and never acquired useful skills they could sell in the job market.

However, if we were playing the game of what one "needs", I would adopt the rule that you and others of the leftist clan have a lot more than you need and leave you with only what I think you "need".

Actually, I wouldn't do that at all. I'd much prefer to round up all the leftists and ship you off to Cuba or North Korea where you could find true happiness in the leftist ideal society.

We don't operate under the 5th rate thinker, Karl Marx rules in America. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."

Lastly, the 2,000,000...2 million hits on Google search for Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich is overwhelming evidence that Socialist demoscats have been saying the words.

posted January 07, 2011 02:29 PM            

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And acoustic, I see that even when your nose is rubbed in the lying leftist rhetoric, you're still arguing that just because lying leftists didn't remtion tax cuts for the middle class and working poor contained within the Bush Tax Cuts going all the way back to 2001...that's what they really meant all along.

Only in fantasy land acoustic.

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Only in fantasyland does looking at Democrats focusing on repealing a specific part of the tax breaks enacted under Bush as some sort of "lying" rhetoric. Where is the lie, Jwhop? What were they lying about exactly?

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What the lying leftists were attempting to convey is the the Bush Tax Cuts only benefitted the rich. It's the usual class warfare put forth by Marxist Socialist Progressives.

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No, they weren't. That's what I've spent every post in this thread refuting. At EVERY SINGLE CORNER, in EVERY SINGLE article it is quite apparent that Democrats are focused on taking away the tax cuts solely given to wealthy. Nothing more.

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It's none of your business whether or not the rich "need" tax cuts.

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None of your business? What kind of talk is that? You're acting as if it's a privacy issue. It's everyone's business whether this country goes into debt, because it doesn't collect enough in taxes to cover it's expenses.

I guess that if it's no one's business about wealthy people's taxes, then it's equally none of our business to think about raising the debt ceiling, or our government going into default. It's none of our business if our government sells our debt to the Communist world power. We shouldn't be worried about our government stealing the commie's money any more so than "stealing" from our own wealthy, because surely our own wealthy don't have as much of a vested interest in our solvency as China does. Think J-dog, think.

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In a capitalist society, people work for what they have and it's not the job of government to steal what they've earned to hand over to those who sit on their as$es and never acquired useful skills they could sell in the job market.

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In our Capitalist society, the preeminent Capitalists believe they should be taxed more, and have taken things a step further in getting other billionaires to give half their money to causes for people that are less fortunate like those people without useful skills. Imagine that!

If you don't want to pay taxes to the American government, you are free to pay them elsewhere. If you believe in America's capitalism, then you'll pay to play.

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Lastly, the 2,000,000...2 million hits on Google search for Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich is overwhelming evidence that Socialist demoscats have been saying the words.

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LOL...

It's too much, JWhop. Too much! Yes, they've been saying those words. They've been saying those words in relation to repealing those cuts. Those cuts are NOT the same as the entire slew of Bush tax cuts.

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End of the story and as usual, you lose because your arguments are bullshiiit.

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