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jwhop
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posted January 05, 2011 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, one of the first orders of business in the New Congress will be extending..or not extending the National Debt Limit.

As usual, leftists who were against it THEN...including O'Bomber are for it NOW!

The more we examine leftist members of the House, Senate and White House, the more their in your face hypocrisy shines through.

Conservatives have already began the process of weeding out the unfit for office... hypocrites, weak kneed, blowing in wind enablers and morons from the Washington DC Garden.

The question is...when are the real Democrats going to get with the program and weed out the unfit leftist morons and hypocrites from their political party.

OR, are real Democrats simply going to continue to switch parties as they are in the process of doing right now?

January 05, 2011
Obama on the debt ceiling; then and now
Ethel C. Fenig

Almost five years ago, in March, 2006, the usually silent junior Democratic senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, unexpectedly piped up to oppose increasing the nation's debt ceiling, explaining

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. ... Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here." Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

After this little outburst Obama obediently followed his Democratic colleagues to vote against raising the debt ceiling. Busy campaigning for the presidency in 2007 and 2008 and involved with other personal matters not related to his senatorial duties, Obama didn't even bother voting when the issue came up in each of these years. Indeed, he didn't vote on many other issues during his overlapping later senatorial career/presidential campaign time.

Fast forward to January, 2011. Because "America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership" the now President Obama is asking Congress to raise the debt ceiling, something lawmakers are almost certain to do despite misgivings about the federal debt. The ceiling already has been hiked three times in the past two years, and the House took action earlier this year to raise the ceiling to $13 trillion.Congress has little choice. Failing to raise the cap could lead the nation to default in mid-October, when the debt is expected to exceed its limit, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has said. In August, Geithner asked Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to increase the debt limit as soon as possible.

Senator Obama's five year old senatorial insight about the ever rising debt as a "failure of leadership" and that "Americans deserve better" is one of the few things he got right.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/obama_on_the_debt_ceiling_then.html

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jwhop
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posted January 05, 2011 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Partisan Trends
Number of Republicans Reaches Highest Level Since December 2004
Monday, January 03, 2011

The number of American adults calling themselves Republicans in December increased by one percentage point from November to 37.0%.

Also in December, the number calling themselves Democrats fell by a point to 33.7%.

Those figures reflect the largest number of Republicans in the nation since December 2004 and the lowest number of Democrats ever recorded in tracking since November 2002.

It’s the second straight month that Rasmussen Reports polling has found more people identifying as Republicans than Democrats. Prior to November, that had never happened before.
www.rasmussenreports.com

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posted January 05, 2011 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oopsie

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Randall
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posted January 05, 2011 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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AcousticGod
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posted January 05, 2011 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember that Rasmussen is a polling place. Them saying that people self-identify as something is not the same as actual numbers of people registered to either party. I'm sure Democrats still hold a healthy lead in number of actually registered members.

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jwhop
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posted January 05, 2011 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oopsie is right juni!

"Rasmussen Reports tracks this information based on telephone interviews with approximately 15,000 adults per month and has been doing so since November 2002. The margin of error for the full sample is less than one percentage point, with a 95% level of confidence."

"Keep in mind that figures reported in this article are for all adults, not likely voters. Republicans are a bit more likely to participate in elections than Democrats. "
www.rasmussenreports.com

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posted January 05, 2011 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said, it's a poll. Not anything actual. Even at 15,000 it's well less than a percent of the voting population.

The margin of error is for the poll, not the result. The result is only accurate within the confines of the poll, and reflect only those polled.

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jwhop
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posted January 05, 2011 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha, it IS a poll acoustic AND it's not a poll of 15,000.

It's a poll of 15,000 per month going back to 2002.

I make that to be 1,440,000 polled in 8 years Plus another 30,000 for December 2010 and January 2011 or...1,470,000 polled on the question.

Just like a leftist to carp about the poll...because they don't like the poll results.

Next, you'll be telling everyone the poll predicted results of the November 3rd, 2010 election didn't happen.

Of course, I remember you saying the November 3rd election was going to be just the usual midterm election.

WRONG!

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AcousticGod
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posted January 05, 2011 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

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Just like a leftist to carp about the poll...because they don't like the poll results.

Well, I learned that from a Conservative...who was right. Any poll polling less than a percent of even JUST the voting population (much less the general population) isn't going to be that accurate. And one month's polls aren't cumulative with a different months, because even if they did use different people each month we wouldn't know how the former people would poll today. I would categorize this as logically erroneous thinking.

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Of course, I remember you saying the November 3rd election was going to be just the usual midterm election.

WRONG!


Awww...leave it to you to try to find a way to be right when wrong. For me, there wasn't anything particularly special about the 2010 election. I get that you want to make it into something it's not, but like the House's vow to repeal the healthcare overhaul, it's really very moot.

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jwhop
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posted January 05, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No acoustic, let's get this right.

YOU were wrong about the then coming midterm election when you said it would be just the usual midterm election.

It turned out to be anything but the usual AND acoustic, I told you what was going to happen.

AND acoustic, Rasmussen predicted a 60 to 65 seat pickup for Republicans in the House.

AND acoustic, House Republicans did not VOW to repeal O'BomberCare. They promised to pass a repeal bill in the House of Representatives.

This is the proposed legislative repeal bill which is going to be introduced in the next few days.

You will notice it's short and sweet and unlike the 2700 page monstrosity passed by the Socialist demoscats.
http://rules-republicans.house.gov/Media/PDF/HR__-Repeal.pdf

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AcousticGod
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posted January 05, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's already right, Jwhop. No tweaking or twisting necessary. You've done enough spinning in here.

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It turned out to be anything but the usual AND acoustic, I told you what was going to happen.

What happened wasn't outside of what I thought would happen. That's where you're wrong. I didn't predict that Democrats would largely keep their seats. I didn't predict that Republicans wouldn't surge.

Now if you wish to move to a more accurate instance of predicting wrong, how about we recount the Presidential election. You predicted a McCain victory, and I predicted with certainty an Obama win. I was right.

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AND acoustic, House Republicans did not VOW to repeal O'BomberCare. They promised to pass a repeal bill in the House of Representatives.

Republicans vow to repeal Obama's healthcare plan

'We WILL stop Obamacare': Republicans vow to hold vote to halt President's flagship policy

Yeah? (Passing a repeal bill infers a repeal, right?)

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jwhop
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posted January 05, 2011 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happened was very far outside what you predicted acoustic.

It's been more than 70 years since such a landslide in the House occured and that's 35, count em acoustic, 35 midterm elections.

So acoustic, you should stick to predictions which require no analysis whatsoever...like the sun will rise in the East tomorrow and leave the heavy lifting to those who are capable.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 05, 2011 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it wasn't Jwhop. There was no grand prediction on my part. The only big prediction I've made here was that Obama would win the Presidency.

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jwhop
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posted January 05, 2011 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee acoustic, when you predicted the then approaching midterm elections would be just the usual, I reserved the right to call that a "prediction".

On the other hand, you did say O'Bomber would win the 2008 Presidential election.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 06, 2011 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there some sort of relevant point here, Jwhop?

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Glaucus
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posted January 06, 2011 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

shrugs

heck..I even predicted McCain was going to win,and I was wrong.

I even did that even though I am a democrat who voted for and donated to Barack Obama Jr.(his name is not O'Bomber.....his name is not Irish..it's African...he is named after his father, Barack Obama Sr.)


I used Magi Astrology which helped me find out that Bush was going to win twice.


I might have overlooked some things, or I didn't use the system properly.

I also saw things in Cosmobiology that seemed more favorable for Barack Obama than McCain.

I went more with the Magi Astrology.


I also admit that I had some pessimism because I didn't think Obama would be elected.


btw...just because a person doesn't share your views doesn't make anybody a moron, jwhop


I am a liberal/leftwing,and I am not a moron.

everybody else here that is a liberal/leftwing is not a moron.

I wouldn't be saying that every conservative/rightwing is a moron.

I don't do stuff like that.


You're very divisive in how you talk to people.


Everybody has to be wrong with you always being right.

It's your view or way, and nobody else's.


Life doesn't work that way.


There is such thing as diversity.


I don't appreciate your condescension to AcousticGod in regards to his prediction.


There are even succsessful astrologers that have gotten predictions wrong, and that doesn't mean that they can't predict.


I can't stand people that call others and refers to people as being "morons","stupid", "idiot" , and other things that imply low intelligence.


There are people that don't believe in Astrology who think that people who use Astrology are stupid and gullible.


I'd think as astrologers, we would be the last types of people to refer to people in an intellectually inferior.

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Developmental Neurodiversity Association facebook group.
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posted January 06, 2011 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now hear this Glaucus:

I don't give a rat's patootie what you think about my responses to acoustic...or that you think I'm picking on the little guy.

I have a lot more experience with acoustic's twisted, distorted perceptions of reality and his conditioned Pavlovian responses which I have nurtured over the years.

Leftists are getting a double dose of their own medicine in a language they can understand; their own language.

You're barking up the wrong tree Glaucus when you bring up "diversity" and/or "multiculturalism" to me. I'm not a supporter of or adherent to either.

One Nation
One Language
One Law
One Culture...for all.

By now, it should be abundantly clear to even the O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers that you were sold a pig-in-a-poke. That you helped elect a created persona who is in reality a lying narcissist with a personality disorder who is intellectually, morally, philosophically and politically unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.

Not to worry though. This time, the adults didn't roll over and hit the snooze button. They woke up and they're wide awake and in charge of the nation's checkbook. O'Bomber is about to hit the brick wall of reality.

Let the whining, screeching, foot stomping and shrieking in unison begin.

Relevant point acoustic?

Try this one. In the hundreds of points you've attempted to make here, your batting average would be statistically insignificant.

If you could manage to be as successful as that "blind squirrel" or that "broken clock" it would improve your batting average immensely.


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AcousticGod
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posted January 06, 2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

For someone who starts at a point about polling, and ends up trying to make a point out of the 2010 election, you certainly do give your illusion a lot of moxie.

You didn't have a relevant point going down the 2010 election road. There was no grand prediction, which was upset in any way. You say it was a landslide, and I see it for what it is: Republicans took back ONLY the House. Big deal. Lesser elections have had the same result. That makes the 2010 election par for the course as I stated. We know you're a small picture guy, and I'm a big picture guy. You can't see the irrelevance of that win, nor the fact that it had nothing to do with my point about the polling, and the fact that there are still more registered Democrats than Republicans.

This may very well be my last post in this thread. I think all the relevant points have been made.

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jwhop
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posted January 06, 2011 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For someone who starts at a point about polling, and ends up trying to make a point out of the 2010 election, you certainly do give your illusion a lot of moxie....acoustic

Wrong acoustic. The title of this thread AND the first post was about the hypocrisy of Barack Hussein O'Bomber.

Hypocrisy---O'Bomber Then and O'Bomber Now!

So acoustic, I didn't "start at a point about polling"

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This may very well be my last post in this thread. I think all the relevant points have been made...acoustic

Wrong again acoustic. I haven't even began to scratch the surface of all the hypocrisy of Barack Hussein O'Bomber.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 07, 2011 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's weird the way you're selective about what you respond to. You leave the point about your veering off course into election 2010 territory, and instead concentrate on ...Well, I guess it's something you feel you can be right about.

Did we talk about Obama's hypocrisy Jwhop? No, we didn't. The post you started with that I responded to was about the poll. In my world, everything isn't about Jwhop's perspective, so while you may want to split hairs by referencing your actual first post, I was referencing the first post I responded to. Understand? That was OUR starting point, and yours was the first post to reference the poll. Get it? Good.

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posted January 07, 2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I'm a big picture guy"..acoustic

Pull your head out acoustic. You'd be the last person here I would say sees the "picture" at all.

Your prediction for the midterm election was pure bullshiiit. It was anything but the "usual". That 63 seat switch from demoscats to Republicans in the House hasn't happened in the last 35 midterms...that's 70 years.

The "usual" for midterm elections is a pickup of 2-3 seats in the Senate for the party in the minority.

Republicans picked up 6 in the Senate.

Voters didn't like the oozing Marxism from the White House and demoscat Congress.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 07, 2011 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You "would say"...

Given your record of judgment I'll take it! We know about how often you get something right.

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posted January 07, 2011 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop then: call the president by his proper name and title

jwhop now: obomber this, obomber that...

he who smelt it STILL dealt it.

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