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jwhop
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posted February 06, 2011 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today would be the 100th Birthday of Ronald Reagan.

This is what Ronald Reagan had to say in 1964, 16 years before he became President of the United States....oh, and without a teleprompter

This message from the past is timeless and that's one of the reasons it's been called The Speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs

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katatonic
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posted February 06, 2011 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why would an actor need a teleprompter? his career was about MEMORIZING LINES..

and apparently he couldn't even manage to memorize it, he looks at his crib sheet every 5 seconds...

oh duh, i forgot they didn't HAVE teleprompters except on TV shows in those days!!

but it seems facile comparisons and cookedup arithmetic were in style even then!

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posted February 06, 2011 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hail the Chief! From my studies, I would say Reagan was perhaps the greatest President ever--definitely the greatest of the 20th century.

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posted February 09, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm

I don't see how he is the greatest president of the 20th century nor even a great present.

Under his watch, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. There was a big deficit and the economy wasn't all that great. He voted against the Civil Rights Act. He was involved in the Iran Contra scandal.
He didn't speak out against Apartheid in South Africa. He was against gay rights.


Here is an article about him


By George E. Curry

There they go again. First, conservatives ranging from anti-affirmative action foe Ward Connerly, to combative talk show host Glenn Beck, claimed to be acting in the spirit of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. as they sought to dismantle everything he fought for. Now, one of Reagan’s sons has made the outlandish assertion that Reagan was a better friend of African-Americans than the nation’s first black president.

These people have no shame.

In an article that appeared on FoxNews.com the day we observe Dr. King’s birthday as a federal holiday, Michael Reagan wrote, “…The past two years have made one thing clear: Ronald Reagan was a far better friend to black Americans than Barack Obama has been.”

And he didn’t stop there.

Instead of Bill Clinton being known as the first black president, the younger Reagan wrote, “Well, I could make an even stronger case for my father, Ronald Reagan, as ‘our first black president.’” He said he could make such a case, but in deference to Obama, he decided he wouldn’t.

Well, as his father would say, let’s examine the Reagan record.

* While campaigning for governor of California, Reagan opposed that state’s Fair Housing Act, saying, “If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, he has a right to do so.”
* Reagan opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
* Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., which at the time was known for only one thing: the Ku Klux Klan murder of three civil rights workers. Reagan, using the code words of the day, said, “I believe in states rights.”
* The Reagan Justice Department, unlike previous Republican and Democratic administrations, decided to stop negotiating specific goals and timetables in settling illegal discrimination cases.
* Under Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights William Bradford Reynolds, the U.S. Department of Justice went to court to challenge voluntary affirmative action programs that had been agreed to by different parties.
* Over the objection of Reagan, the Supreme Court upheld an Internal Revenue Service rule denying tax exemption to Bob Jones University, an institution that prohibited interracial dating and marriage.
* Reagan vetoed the Civil Rights Restoration Act passed by Congress to overturn a Supreme Court ruling (Grove City v. Bell) that limited the remedies available to the federal government when going after private organizations that receive federal subsidies. Congress overrode Reagan’s veto.
* The Reagan administration went to court to invalidate voluntary school desegregation programs, such as the one in Seattle.
* Throughout his presidency, Reagan refused to take a stand against South Africa’s racist regime. When Congress voted for sanctions against the minority-ruled country, Reagan vetoed the measure. But Congress again overrode his veto. After one pro-apartheid speech, the normally mild-mannered Bishop Desmond Tutu said: “I found it quite nauseating. I think the West can go to hell…Your president is the pits as far as blacks are concerned. He sits there like the great, big white chief of old.”
* Reagan slashed domestic programs for the poor, especially housing subsidies. According to Peter Dreier, a housing expert: “Reagan’s most dramatic cut was for low-income housing subsidies…Between 1980 and 1989, HUD’s budget authority was cut from $74 billion to $19 billion in constant dollars.”
* Reagan didn’t recognize his lone black cabinet member responsible for carrying out the drastic housing reductions. At a reception for mayors, he approached HUD Secretary Sam Pierce and greeted him, “Hello, Mr. Mayor.”
* He depicted poor women as “welfare queens” driving around in pink Cadillacs.
* In his article, Michael Reagan noted that his father signed into law a bill making Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s birthday a federal holiday. However, he neglected to say that Reagan signed the measure grudgingly, noting he did so because “Congress seemed bent on making it a national holiday.”
* Reagan attempted to fire three members of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights – Mary Frances Berry, Blandina Cardenas and Rabbi Murray Saltzman – because the members of the then-independent body were critical of his civil rights record.
* Reagan’s most lasting legacy is the number of far-right judges he appointed to the federal bench. One – Robert Bork – was so extreme that the Senate rejected his nomination.

As proof that he wasn’t a racist, President Reagan often recalled the story of when two black members of his college football team were not allowed to stay in a hotel with their white teammates, he offered his parents’ Illinois home to the African-Americans.

Michael Reagan recounts that story yet again in his defense of his father. However, his quote reveals his father’s interest was not limited to the welfare of the two black teammates. The future president said that after the coach said all of the players would sleep on the bus if the black kids were not allowed to register at the hotel, Reagan then came up with his offer.

The son said, “Dad spoke up and offered an alternative: why not send Burgie and Jim to the Reagan home in Dixon, just 15 miles away? Dad’s parents, Jack and Nellie Reagan, would welcome his teammates – and the whole team would get a good night’s rest.”

Despite his devastating policies, President Reagan saw himself as a friend of African-Americans. In a 1989 interview with CBS News about his relationship with blacks, Reagan said, “One of the great things that I have suffered is this feeling that somehow I’m on the other side.”

It was more than a feeling; it was reality. And there’s nothing that Michael Reagan and other revisionists can say to alter the truth.

George E. Curry, former editor-in-chief of Emerge magazine and the NNPA News Service, is a keynote speaker, moderator, and media coach. He can be reached through his Web site, www.georgecurry.com You can also follow him at www.twitter.com/currygeorge.
http://www.thedefendersonline.com/2011/01/28/ronald-reagan-a-better-friend-of- blacks-than-obama/


The hell with Reagan! He didn't give a flying f-ck about black people!

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jwhop
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posted February 19, 2011 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glacus, that's a load of taradiddle as is much of what you have to say.

The American people disagree with you and would take exception to what you said...if you ever came to their attention.

Greatest American President? Survey Says. . .
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 9:02am
Mike Opelka

Presidents Day is Monday and the folks at Gallup wondered which of our Presidents occupies the #1 spot in the hearts and minds of the American people. Their methods?

“Results for this USA Today/Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Feb. 2-5, 2011, with a random sample of 1,015 adults, aged 18 and older, living in the continental U.S., selected using random-digit-dial sampling.”

And now, the results for your (real) American Idol. . .

It should be noted that in the 12 years that Gallup has been asking the question, Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln have both earned the #1 spot, three times.

For the record, this reporter picked George Washington, the man who said this during his first inaugural address;

“The preservation of the sacred fire of liberty, and the destiny of the republican model of government, are justly considered deeply, perhaps as finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/greatest-american-president-survey-says/

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Node
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posted February 19, 2011 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A far more accurate assessment by presidential historians.. scholars and peers in the UK (in the first ever published UK ranking)

can be found here->Historical Rankings of Presidents of the United States.

Updated rankings are consistent with years past.

As discussed in Other threads and on other subjects polls of general public opinions [and small ones at that] are not a good basis for consensus. Excepting of course if it agrees with ones own opinion. No ranking other than generalized public opinions place President Reagan in the TOP 20....let alone #1

They are however predictable. and amusing as polls of 1,000 people generally are.

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jwhop
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posted February 19, 2011 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"A far more accurate assessment by presidential historians.. scholars and peers in the UK (in the first ever published UK ranking)"...Node

The British don't get a say about American leaders...especially after electing the deplorable Gordon Brown.

"No ranking other than generalized public opinions place President Reagan in the TOP 20....let alone #1"...Node

Wrong again Node!


http://legacy.c-span.org/PresidentialSurvey/presidential-leadership-survey.aspx

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katatonic
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posted February 19, 2011 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the british do not elect the prime minister. the vote in the party and the head of the party takes the role...with the queen's permission of course! and gordon brown didn't even come in on an election, but took over when tony blair "stood down" ... a common gambit used by parties who are losing favour and want to stay in power a bit longer. i don't think many brits ever wanted gordy brown as prime minister...

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Node
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posted February 19, 2011 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Number 10 on a C-span poll is certainly not #1 so yes you were wrong.

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jwhop
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posted February 19, 2011 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"No ranking other than generalized public opinions place President Reagan in the TOP 20....let alone #1"...Node

The CSPAN study of US Presidents was undertaken by 64 historians and Presidential observers Node.
http://legacy.c-span.org/PresidentialSurvey/Survey-Participants.aspx

So Node, that survey was not a public opinion poll AND you were wrong.

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