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jwhop
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posted April 17, 2011 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
April 17, 2011
A War Gone Missing
By Peter Heck

I'm hoping someone can help me. I left on vacation last week, and when I got back, an entire war was missing. I've looked for it on all the major networks and cable outlets (excepting Fox News), as well as all the major newspapers. Although I've found hints that it still exists somewhere, President Obama's Libyan War is officially missing in action.

The President actually set the stage for this vanishing act in his speech defending our involvement in Libya. Trying desperately to find a way to distinguish his overseas military operation from the ones he had vociferously condemned as a candidate, the President explained that our role in Libya was pretty much done already:

Our most effective alliance, NATO [...] has taken command of the enforcement of the arms embargo and the no-fly zone [...] This transfer from the United States to NATO will take place on Wednesday. Going forward, the lead in enforcing the no-fly zone and protecting civilians on the ground will transition to our allies and partners.

So transparent was his attempted charade that even liberal comedian Jon Stewart couldn't pass up the opportunity to chide Obama's silliness, exclaiming on The Daily Show in trademark fashion that in essence we are NATO. His frustration was echoed by other leftists like Brian Becker of the anti-war coalition ANSWER who explained, "That's a fraud. When the U.S. hands the mission to NATO, it's handing the mission over to itself." They're both right in the sense that from its inception, NATO has been a U.S.-led organization.

And even if parading underneath the NATO banner rather than the Stars and Stripes, it still largely remains American might, American forces, American bombs, American firepower, American resources, American tax dollars, and American resolve that is fueling action there.

So why the deception? Because for Obama, far more delicate than even the decision to commit to military action in Libya in the first place is the potential for a drawn out affair. His powers of persuasion will be useless in motivating his liberal base during the 2012 presidential election should the conflict linger. The president was apparently so panicked about such a reality that he uncharacteristically telegraphed this unmistakable message to his allies in the American media: "I'm declaring that there's nothing to be seen in Libya, you make sure to ignore it and talk about other things."

And proving the sorry state of the once independent press, the media have willfully submitted to the president's template. For the last couple weeks, as Americans have been bombarded with news stories about the budget debate, statues, museums, zoos, and even Bob Dylan concerts in China, the war rolls on. And to be blunt, it isn't going well.

According to the boots on the ground (who aren't really on the ground, of course, because the president promised they wouldn't be), the Libyan conflict is headed for a deadlock. Carter Ham, the American General who led the coalition air campaign has said not to expect the NATO supported rebels to be able to defeat Khadafy. As the New York Daily News reported, "Asked at a Senate hearing about the chances that the rebels could reach Tripoli and oust Khadafy, Ham said, ‘I would assess that as a low likelihood.' He said the situation was becoming a stalemate."

A stalemate? If that doesn't convince you of the chronic incompetence currently plaguing the Oval Office, nothing will. As Mark Steyn recently observed,

The Tunisians got rid of Ben Ali in nothing flat, Mubarak took a couple of weeks longer to hit the road, and an exciting new 'Islamic Emirate' has just been proclaimed in South Yemen. But, with his usual unerring instinct, Barack Obama has chosen to back the one Arab liberation movement who can't get rid of the local strongman even when you lend them every functioning NATO air force.

What is unfolding in Libya is simply this: perpetual American military engagement, excessive spending of taxpayer dollars, abject refusal to articulate a clear and pronounced objective, and the unnerving absence of any apparent exit strategy. It seems like not that long ago we were hearing such a scenario described by the American media as a quagmire, weren't we?

In Iraq they trumpeted every death, every setback, every struggle as part of their ongoing effort to defeat President Bush. But now, confronted with the perfect example of American presidential ineptitude, a flailing Commander-in-Chief leading a confused, bizarre military operation with no real purpose, they wag the dog.

And though flagrant media bias comes as no surprise, this sin of omission is particularly galling given the indignant drumbeat of negativity that defined their coverage of previous military conflicts. It is the clearest example yet of how desperate the leftist media is to get President Obama re-elected.

Already committed to white-washing his glaring flip-flops on closing Guantanamo, military tribunals and renditions, spinning his miserable economic record, candy-coating his abysmal performance on job creation, they have now devoted themselves to wiping an entire war (or, as the administration prefers to call it, "kinetic military action") from the American conscience. If he can't win with the unprecedented advantage of having the mainstream press ransoming their credibility for four more years, it will put an exclamation point on how out of his league Barack Obama truly is.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/a_war_gone_missing.html

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jwhop
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posted April 17, 2011 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
April 17, 2011
Now NATO running short of munitions
Rick Moran

Anyone know where NATO can get some laser guided missiles - cheap?

Less than a month into the Libyan conflict, NATO is running short of precision bombs, highlighting the limitations of Britain, France and other European countries in sustaining even a relatively small military action over an extended period of time, according to senior NATO and U.S. officials.

The shortage of European munitions, along with the limited number of aircraft available, has raised doubts among some officials about whether the United States can continue to avoid returning to the air campaign if Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi hangs on to power for several more months.
U.S. strike aircraft that participated in the early stage of the operation, before the United States relinquished command to NATO and assumed what President Obama called a "supporting" role, have remained in the theater "on 12-hour standby" with crews "constantly briefed on the current situation," a NATO official said.

So far, the NATO commander has not requested their deployment. Several U.S. military officials said they anticipated being called back into the fight, although a senior administration official said he expected other countries to announce "in the next few days" that they would contribute aircraft equipped with the laser-guided munitions.

Calls at a NATO meeting this past week for more countries to contribute to the air campaign fell on deaf ears so it's probable this request will face a similar fate. There are still only 4 nations out of 28 who are engaged in combat missions.

Meanwhile, US commanders expect to re-enter the fight soon. The rebels are screaming for more air cover and NATO is stretched to its limit.

NATO leaders are probably hoping that Barack Obama will offer American help. They will have a very long wait if they think that.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/now_nato_running_short_of_muni.html


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posted April 18, 2011 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber the "war monger" and....leftists don't wanna talk about it.

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posted April 18, 2011 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remind me how many Democrats signed on for Iraq's war resolution.

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posted April 18, 2011 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a very short while ago, jwhop, when i said i didn't think we had any business in libya, YOU were crowing about how it was our duty to obliterate nasty characters like him, and hussein...short term memory probs? or you don't care what you criticize obama about as long as you do criticize him?

but hey, that would make your criticism WORTHLESS, based on nothing but animosity, and nothing to do with his policies...oh dear~

it doesn't take a "leftist" to be against policing the world. there are plenty like me who said the same thing, which is why obama felt he had to justify our involvement.

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posted April 18, 2011 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the other side of that is the fact that Democrats weren't against getting involved in Iraq, but rather took issue with the way the Administration went about it. Even Bill Clinton was on board with action in Iraq.

Sure Democrats would rather a more hands off approach to world matters, but that doesn't mean that all of them hate war every time in every instance regardless of what's at stake.

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jwhop
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posted April 19, 2011 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remind me again how many Representatives and Senators signed onto the Libyan War Resolution?

Feeling a little schizophrenic today?

Let's see. Iraq was the Bush War of Choice.
Afthanistan was the War of Necessity.

So naturally, leftists are wetting themselves to leave the War of Necessity.

So, the Supreme Maximum Leader, the Messiah O'Bomber says..."Gaddafi has to go".

Next day the Supreme Maximum Leader, the Messiah O'Bomber says..."Regime change in Libya is not the goal...of the Kinetic Military Action".

Next day, the Supreme Maximum Leader, the Messiah O'Bomber says..."Gaddafi has to go".

Next day, the Supreme Maximum Leader, the Messiah O'Bomber says..."Regime change is not the goal in Libya".

Do you leftists take your schizophrenia with one lump or two?

Iraq was the Bush Unilateral War. There were only 32 Coalition Partners in Iraq.

In Libya, NATO nations have been "hands off" except for France and Britain who have taken over the bombing campaign since the Supreme Maximum Leader, the Messiah O'Bomber called off American air strikes.

So now, it looks like "Regime Change" really isn't the goal in Libya.

Quagmire is the goal of the Kinetic Military Action in Libya. Oh yeah, and sloganeering.

Now, do you leftist want one lump or two with your schizophrenia?

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