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iQ
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posted May 18, 2011 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In 1792, the value of one dollar was pegged to 24 grams of Silver.

There were hiccups during the Civil War, and earlier in 1812.
From Wiki:
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In 1862, paper money was issued without the backing of precious metals, due to the Civil War. Silver and gold coins continued to be issued and in 1878 the link between paper money and coins was reinstated. This disconnection from gold and silver backing also occurred during the War of 1812. The use of paper money not backed by precious metals had also occurred under the Articles of Confederation from 1777 to 1788. With no solid backing and being easily counterfeited, the continentals quickly lost their value, giving rise to the phrase "not worth a continental". This was a primary reason for the "No state shall... make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts" clause in article 1, section 10 of the United States Constitution.
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Total debt today is 14.3 trillion dollars.

Assuming that only 5% of dollars are actually printed, the total printed currency that by the Law of Karma should be backed up by 24 grams of Silver per dollar is
700 billion dollars.

Hence, minimum Silver required to be bought by the US Treasury is 700 x 24 billion grams or approximately 600 billion ounces.

Total Silver mined every year is around 600 million ounces, including Industrial usage.
Hardly anything extra is left to buy by the Treasury.

Total Silver estimated to be available in the hands of banks and investors is around 5 billion ounces [optimistic calculation].

This can be bought. To make up for the difference, the value to be given is 600/5 or 120 times the current price of Silver [varies between 30-35 dollars an ounce]

This value has to be given in terms of gold or real estate.

So the true worth of Silver in terms of the inflated dollar is nearly 3600 dollars an ounce.

As per the Law of Karma, this fair price has to be reached some day or the other because of the 1792 dictum, and we are not getting into the 95% extra debt which is not accounted for in printed currency. The Law is broken when the Constitution of the United States is defunct.

A 3000 dollar paycheck in reality is just an ounce of Silver.

So each and every American, do justice to your Self. Buy an ounce of Silver with every monthly paycheck to protect yourself against the ramifications of hyperinflation.

Buying Silver or Gold regularly will help you safely pay off the karmic debts created and foisted on America by the greedy bankers who charge you all interest on money they do not possess and which is not backed up by Gold or Silver. They will have to come to you as beggars for your Silver or Gold, force them to part with Equity of their banks and ensure they personally are the collateral. All that they possess is rightfully yours.

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rajji
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posted May 19, 2011 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A most confusing topic
Which is a good investment in the long run A property or gold and silver?
Do you think God will crash?
Is this a period of gold and silver bubble like Real Estate bubble once saw?
Or is this the new sinkhole for large portion of unaccounted money?
Please shed some light.

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iQ
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posted May 19, 2011 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the short term, Gold and Silver will see fluctuations. Franklin Sanders has calculated around 27 dollars an ounce as bottom for Silver and 200 as the top in the next 5 years.
Jason Hommel pegs the Silver top at 500 dollars.
My calculations show that 400-500 dollars per ounce is very easy but if the dollar crashes, Silver will touch 3600-4000 dollars an ounce within US Soil. However, foreigners will get the same value as they get now at 400-500 dollars max.

Gold will be more stable, not more than 5% either way.

Property is good only if it is fertile agricultural land with abundant, potable, ground water. It is an utter waste to buy flats, built up villas etc etc.

It is best to keep putting 30%-40% of cash savings every month into Silver and Gold. This way you escape the fluctuations and average your holding cost.

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posted May 25, 2011 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Property is good only if it is fertile agricultural land with abundant, potable, ground water. It is an utter waste to buy flats, built up villas etc etc."

IQ Can you please elucidate as to why according to you built up structures are such a wasteful lot?

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posted May 25, 2011 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Primarily because you do not own the land on which apartments are built. And the constructed property starts depreciating in 7-8 years. Plus you lose close to 100$ a month on property tax and maintenance.

Lets say you buy a flat for $100,000.00

Registration cost is $10,000.00

In 5 years, maintenance costs tally to $6000.00

Cost of capital in 5 years is $60000 compounded, plus you lose another 1000 dollars on the cost of capital of the maintenance amount.

So to get a healthy return of 10-12% per annum after 5 years, your flat has to sell for

100000 + 60000 + 7000 + 100000 profit or $267000.00

Minus of course the rent if any, and these days rents are not even 3% the value.

Honestly, is that going to happen when new apartments will be available for 120K-130K?


Look at metals instead. Had you just bought $100K of Silver systematically since 2003, you could have cashed out with 400% returns this year. Which real estate asset can ever give 400% gains? Only agricultural land can give 400% gains, in 8-10 years, as proven in many parts of India as the price rise of rice and wheat led to those fields fetching 400% more.

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posted May 26, 2011 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You so much IQ for such a splendid explanation!

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