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posted June 20, 2011 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


full unedited version


whenever jon heads over to foxxy it's party time....

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posted June 20, 2011 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well actually....no one should rely on what a comedy entertainer says...when it's news that's being discussed.

What's really appalling is the the Jon Stewart audience believes Stewart is delivering the news.

Of course, Stewart doesn't see any political bias at NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the NT Times, Washington Post, LA Times or any of the leftist propaganda arms or the failing demoscat party.

Not even when a group of so called "journalists" got caught on-line, JournoList, discussing how to slant the news and make outlandish allegations against republicans....just call them racists!

Nope, no political bias in the MSM.

But then, Jon Stewart is hardly one whose opinion of Fox News should be taken seriously.

Stewart and other leftists are just enraged that Fox News is kicking the as$es of the leftist slanted MSM over whom leftists drool.

Most Trusted News source...Fox News!

Most Trusted News talk host...Bill O'Reilly...Fox News!

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posted June 20, 2011 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What's really appalling is the the Jon Stewart audience believes Stewart is delivering the news.

That's a retarded statement. People don't watch The Daily Show for the news. They watch to be entertained. They just happen to be more knowledgeable on the news than regular Fox watchers, which is strange considering Fox watchers ought to be getting the news.

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Nope, no political bias in the MSM.

I don't think Jon Stewart said there was a complete lack of bias from non-Fox-News-sources. I didn't watch the video or anything, but I can probably rest assured that you didn't either.

No one could possibly be upset with Fox News over its popularity. The only upset can be that people actually watch that nonsense with some misguided belief that there's quality in the product.

Of course if we want to speak about someone being offended, someone here rushed to Fox's defense over the words of a comedian.

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posted June 20, 2011 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
really jwhop, did you learn the art of prose writing from reading hearst newspapers in the heyday? where do you see people drooling over the mainstream media? do you drool much yourself? i don't see many people drooling anywhere - except my 3 mo old grandson, now HE drools.

your hyperbole increases as your content gets more and more tired. typical of those who have nothing to say. just paint the folks you don't like as demented criminals and you'll win the day!

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posted June 20, 2011 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stewart was asked about political bias at MSM outlets and denied it existed.

Stewart is brain dead of course. That's the perfect reason no one should pay a seconds attention to what he says about political issues...or much of anything else.

For those who want the most shallow entertainment possible; Stewart is the right guy to watch.

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posted June 20, 2011 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting that you never saw the opposition speaking anywhere near as passionately about O'Reilly, you favorite news commentator. If Stewart was anything you attributed to him, you wouldn't feel threatened by people talking about him.

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posted June 20, 2011 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stewart was asked about political bias at MSM outlets and denied it existed.~~JW

He has never said that. In fact he proves a different take entirely in the interview.

In fact he offers that if the MSM were not to be found [so] wanting, people would not be listening to him.

He is a comedienne first, offering opinions.

Says so himself.
view the tape.....

One of my favorite quotes:

"being a comedienne is harder than what you do".

and~ that the interviewer offers Foxxy credibility...he offsets Hannity and the like.

But the point is FOXXY viewers are less informed, every poll shows that. Consistently.

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posted June 20, 2011 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking passionately or passion is no substitute for knowledge...political or otherwise.

Stewart's display of knowledge is somewhat less than a nano-meter deep. Very shallow indeed.

He's an entertainer with an audience of leftists who know even less than he does.

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Then why is it that the audience of a "News" channel are less informed than a Stewart audience?

*Ill* informed might be a better way to put it. But in every audience poll of news-worthy events that has proved true.

Your defense of a MSM channel by deriding the intelligence of a comedienne is hilarious, and entertaining.

Robin Williams on the `10` years in politics.

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posted June 21, 2011 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I happened to be watching the Fox News segment when Jon Stewart appeared with Chris Wallace.

Wallace asked Stewart about the leftist bias at the NY Times...Stewart denied it existed and attempted to write it off as something else. So much for the political astuteness of Jon Stewart.

Wallace asked Stewart about his own leftist bias and got a bullshiiiit answer from Stewart who said he is first, a comedian. Apparently Stewart thinks his leftist bias doesn't creep into his comedy routines but that's bullshiiit too.

What is true is that Jon Stewart plays to his leftist audience who are typically know nothings. Stewart's comedy routines wouldn't go over at all with a political mainstream audience. Nor, would any political mainstream audience believe for a second they're getting "news" from Jon Stewart.

Jon Stewart gets out-Foxed
06/20/2011
David Cohen

It was rather surreal to see Stewart, whose bread and butter is ridiculing people by showing edited clips out of context, take umbrage at the use of his own clip (which was not taken out of context, by the way).

Stewart resorted to the type of transparent diversionary tactics that one trots out when one is losing an argument. “You can’t understand, because of the world you live in, that there is not a designed ideological agenda on my part to effect partisan change, because that’s the soup you swim in,” Stewart lectured Wallace. “It reminds me of, you know, in ideological regimes, they can’t understand that there is free media [in] other places because they receive marching orders.”

It was silly of Stewart to suggest that Wallace, whose professionalism Stewart himself had rightly praised several times during the interview, was so blinded by partisanship that he would be incapable of understanding Jon Stewart. You’re not the complex enigma that you think you are, Jon. Stewart’s analogy to the subjects of “ideological regimes,” which conjures images of indoctrinated North Korean peasants, was equally silly when applied to Wallace.

Stewart’s condescension was a pose of superiority typically used to mask feelings of inferiority. Stewart is usually a confident guy, but he was clearly losing confidence in his stubborn defense of the mainstream media. That’s why Stewart resorted to the “you can’t understand” tactic from junior high school: Since Wallace was incapable of understanding Stewart (yeah, right), Stewart was absolved of his responsibility to defend his statements with logic.

Stewart is good at making funny faces, which comes in handy when your arguments can’t pass the straight-face test. Stewart was angered by Wallace’s suggestion that Stewart was a political activist. Then what was that big rally about the weekend before the election, Jon — the one where liberal activists were bused in by the thousands?

By the end of the interview, Stewart finally admitted that the mainstream media “probably” had a liberal bias. However, he still clung to the notion that Fox News was worse than the others because, according to Stewart, the other outlets were not consciously pursuing ideological activism. Stewart apparently doesn’t read The Daily Caller, and hence has never heard of the Journolist.

But even if Stewart were right, so what? In the 2008 election, John McCain received about twice as much negative coverage as Barack Obama. Does it really matter whether this gross disparity was the result of conscious liberal activism rather than the media’s complete obliviousness to its own bias?

Perhaps Stewart “can’t understand” this because of the “soup he swims in.” More likely, though, Stewart is afraid to let go of the myth of Fox’s unique monstrosity because it’s such an important part of his act. And while Stewart insists that Wallace can’t understand him, perhaps Wallace understands something about Stewart that Stewart does not understand about himself: That Stewart’s resentment of Fox News is really resentment over the loss of the liberal monopoly on American media.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/jon-stewart-gets-out-foxed/2/

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posted June 21, 2011 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that it's weird that you keep claiming the opposite of what has been proven to be true: Stewart's audience is more informed than Fox's. Saying that they're not without any solid supporting evidence just seems blatantly dishonest.

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posted June 21, 2011 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is most certainly NOT PROVED that Stewart's audience is more informed than the Fox News audience.

The premise is laughable...given Stewart's entertainer status and given that Stewart's audience are leftist leaning lemmings marching in lockstep off a cliff.

Fox News delivers hard news on it's "news" shows. Opinion shows are hosted by personalities, some of whom are not journalists...and make no claim they are. Those shows generally have guests...on both sides of issues being discussed.

Fox News viewers are treated to a wide range of opinions on subjects under discussion...which generally are topics in the news of the day.

That's where "Fair and Balanced" comes from and you don't get that on the pukey news outlets and most certainly not on Jon Stewart.

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posted June 21, 2011 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It is most certainly NOT PROVED that Stewart's audience is more informed than the Fox News audience.

It is most certainly NOT disPROVED that Stewart's audience is more informed than the Fox News audience.

Sorry bud.

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posted June 21, 2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Fox News proves Jon Stewart right

By Adam Serwer


Yesterday I pointed out that Fox News Washington managing editor Bill Sammon’s leaked emails, which showed him urging the network to slant its coverage, showed that Jon Stewart was right when he went on the network over the weekend and accused it of taking ideological “marching orders.”

Now it turns out that Stewart made the same point — during his Fox News Sunday interview, he also cited the Sammon emails as proof of this. But Fox News viewers never got to hear him discuss the emails.

That’s because, as Eric Hananoki points out, that part of the exchange was conveniently left on the cutting room floor.

This is what Fox News Sunday viewers heard from Stewart:

STEWART: You can’t understand because of the world you live in that there is not a designed ideological agenda on my part to affect partisan change because that’s the soup you swim in. I appreciate that. I understand that. It reminds me of, you know — you know, ideological regimes. They can’t understand that there is free media other places. Because they receive marching orders.

This is what Stewart actually said in the unedited interview that appeared online:

STEWART: You can’t understand because of the world you live in that there is not a designed ideological agenda on my part to affect partisan change because that’s the soup you swim in. And I appreciate that. And I understand that. It reminds me of, you know -- you know, in ideological regimes, they can’t understand that there is free media other places. Because they receive marching orders. And if you want me to go through Bill Sammon’s emails and --

Networks often edit interviews for length, and not everything in them necessarily makes it on the air. But it seems a bit too convenient that Fox News edited out a key part of Stewart’s argument: That one of Fox News’ own executives has been caught deliberately trying to slant coverage on the network to reflect conservative talking points and priorities, even to the point of saying things he knew to be untrue.

Still, if Fox did deliberately excise that portion of the interview, you have to wonder who they think they’re fooling. Fox News’ slanted coverage is part of their success story. It’s why conservatives love the network. Do they really think anyone still buys the idea that they’re “fair and balanced?”


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posted June 22, 2011 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Not even Politfact could swallow the gnat that..as Jon Stewart said...:

Jon Stewart says those who watch Fox News are the "most consistently misinformed media viewers"


http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/

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jon of course has video rebuttal here

which will no doubt not be watched so, I will list some of the lies that he reminded us of during the show....1 of which was PolitiFact's Pants on fire lie of year 2009.
for Foxx News, along with PolitiFact's pants on Fire lie of the year for 2010---also from guess who?? oh yea Foxxy News.

the list is clickable here

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Glenn Beck: Less than 10 percent of Obama's Cabinet appointees "have any experience in the private sector." — False (December 2, 2009)

Steve Doocy: White House Political Director Patrick Gaspard once served as the "right-hand man" for Bertha Lewis, who heads up ACORN. — False (September 30, 2009)

Gretchen Carlson: Says the Texas State Board of Education is considering eliminating references to Christmas and the Constitution in textbooks. — Pants on Fire! (March 12, 2010)

PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care' (December 16, 2010)

Glenn Beck: The Muslim Brotherhood has "openly stated they want to declare war on Israel." — False (February 15, 2011)

Karl Rove: "American troops have never been under the formal control of another nation." — False (March 29, 2011)

Brian Kilmeade: Says Gov. Rick Scott's approval ratings are up. — False (April 15, 2011)

Laura Ingraham: The Massachusetts health care plan is "wildly unpopular" among state residents. — False (May 16, 2011)

Sarah Palin: "Look at the debt that has been accumulated in the last two years. It's more debt under this president than all those other presidents combined." — False (June 1, 2011)

PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'Death panels' (December 18, 2009)

Kimberly Guilfoyle: If you log into the government's Cash for Clunkers Web site (cars.gov) from your home computer, the government can "seize all of your personal and private" information, and track your computer activity. — False (August 3, 2009)

Sarah Palin: "We're going to be looking at $8 billion a day that we're going to be pouring into foreign countries in order to import that make-up fuel that we're going to need to take the place of what we could have gotten out of the gulf." — Pants on Fire! (June 3, 2011)

Sarah Palin: "Democrats are poised now to cause this largest tax increase in U.S. history." — Pants on Fire! (August 4, 2010)

Bill O'Reilly: "Attorney General Eric Holder is involved in the dismissal of the criminal charges" against the New Black Panther Party for voter intimidation — False (July 23, 2010)

Sarah Palin: "Barack Obama had 150 days in the U.S. Senate where he was able to vote quite often 'present.' " — False (February 8, 2010)

Glenn Beck: John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, "has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population." — Pants on Fire! (July 29, 2009)

Glenn Beck: Labor union president Andy Stern is "the most frequent visitor" at the White House. — False (December 7, 2009)

Glenn Beck: "Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth? We're the only country in the world that has it." — False (June 19, 2009)

Bill O'Reilly: Says he didn't call Dr. George Tiller a baby killer, as liberal groups charge, but was merely reporting what "some prolifers branded him." — False (June 5, 2009)

Bill O'Reilly: When White House communications director Anita Dunn said that Mao Tse-tung was "one of her favorite philosophers, only Fox News picked that up." — False (October 27, 2009)

Bill O'Reilly: "We researched to find out if anybody on Fox News had ever said you're going to jail if you don't buy health insurance. Nobody's ever said it." — Pants on Fire! (April 27, 2010)



also~
The polls that Politifact used seemed to point out which viewers were uninformed vs. which were misinformed. Those polls used questions such as "who is the current England Prime Minister?" and "which party has more members in the house of representatives?" That so-called lefties can be just as uninformed as fox viewers regarding these questions isn't all that surprising. The polls I thought that Stewart was referring to were those that showed that Fox viewers believed Saddam had WMD and believe global warming is a hoax. I read about Fox's managing editor telling their staff to downplay news on climate change, with later polls showing -surprise!- that Fox viewers don't believe in it. On questions such as "who was the 17th president of the U.S.?" Fox viewers may very well kick ass. But they may still think we found WMD in Iraq and that Obama was born in Kenya.

just sayin~
amazing that the 2 years previous Lie of the Year are attributed to none other than Foxx Noise.

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I don't give a rat's ass about Stewart's
RE-BUTTal.

Stewart's comment on Fox News IS false and politifact...a leftist arm of the leftist St Petersburg Times rated Stewart's comment:

I only used politifact because some here drool over leftist..so called...fact checkers.

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posted June 23, 2011 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was false based on the polls cited by Jon. However, the statement without citing polls is accurate. The "most consistently misinformed media viewers" is true based upon content, which is what Node referred to. Fox has been found to have been wrong several times, and if Fox is getting things wrong then it logically follows that their viewers have been misinformed.

No one here "drools" over fact-checkers, particularly the most dispassionate amongst us. The person exaggerating "the leftist arm of the leftist St. Petersburg Times" is the only one I can figuratively see foaming at the mouth. I thought Politifact was quite fair in their fact-checking of Jon Stewart.

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OMG I'm just stopping in to say HI!!!!!!

I think we all need some unicorns and rainbows and puppies and kittens...and...wait for it...

COOOOKIES!

Ok that's all, carry on.

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posted August 03, 2011 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fox News Network's lowest rated show has a larger audience than the top rated shows on CNN, CNNHN and MSNBC.

MSNBC is sure to "move up" now that they have the race baiting Reverrrrrrend Al.

Of course, Fox News is the "most trusted" news network. No other network comes close.

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,178,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,196,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,127,000
FOXNEWS SMITH 2,085,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,817,000
MNSBC O'DONNELL 1,138,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 1,026,000
CNN MORGAN 859,000
CNN COOPER 851,000
MSNBC MADDOW 832,000
MSNBC SHARPTON 699,000
CNNHN GRACE 663,000

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