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jwhop
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posted June 20, 2011 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a lot of that going on and more to come as people realize Socialism is a dead end street.

Author Mamet Tells Newsmax: Why I Turned My Back on Liberalism
Sunday, 19 Jun 2011 11:34 AM
By Martin Gould and Tim Collie

Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright David Mamet, who characterizes himself as a one-time “brain-dead liberal,” has undergone a conversion to conservatism, he tells Newsmax.TV.

Mamet said his trek to the right began several years ago. “It’s like when you hear a word once and you’ve never heard it before and you hear it three more times that same day.

“I had a bunch of things happen to me over the last few years,and I started to put them all together and they spelled 'mother.'"

Mamet has just written a book, “The Secret Knowledge: On the Dismantling of American Culture”

He said he started to seek out the conservative viewpoint because, in Hollywood, he just didn’t know that it existed. “I did a few years’ worth of reading and came to a different understanding of economics and philosophy.”

But Mamet, who won his Pulitzer for the play “Glengarry Glen Ross” and also wrote such classics as “American Buffalo” and “Speed-the-Plow,” said he does not want to get more involved in politics or endorse a candidate for the next election. “I don’t know better than the next guy,” he pointed out.

“My lesson is that the three branches of government, having failed to uphold the Constitution and the press having failed to uphold its responsibility to tell the truth, there’s nobody home but us chickens.

“Us chickens are the votership and we citizens are going to have to make up our minds and vote according to the understanding of our responsibilities.”

Mamet's rightward turn is evident when he says the United States needs a president like Benjamin Netanyahu rather than Barack Obama.

Mamet says he noticed the difference between the two world leaders during the Israeli prime minister’s address to Congress last month.

“I heard [Obama’s] speech, and I read Prime Minister Netanyahu’s speech and I said to myself, ‘Why can’t we, America, have a leader like Netanyahu because we sure as hell need one,” Mamet said during an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV.

Mamet said his fellow Chicagoan comes from a long line of presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, “who have never worked a day in their life.”

“It’s the vision of the anointed, that they had somehow been anointed and they know better than everyone else around them,” he said.

Mamet had particularly harsh words for Obama’s Middle East policies. “To see the left’s abandonment of Israel was profoundly sobering,” he said.

“The Israelis, and us Jews by extension, are now being treated basically as sub-humans by the left, that is to say people to whom the international law and traditional considerations of right and wrong, traditional considerations of mutual responsibilities to allies, did not apply.

“There is no difference between this view and the view that 15th-century Jews were going around poisoning the wells and kidnapping the Christian children for their blood,” he said, adding, “The only difference is that the left of today is saying it is ridiculous to think that Jews delight in the killing of Christian children — of course they don’t, they delight in the killing of Muslim children!”

The days when Jews voted en bloc for Democrats could be coming to an end, but it will take time as it is ingrained, generation after generation, he said.

“It takes a great effort because it feels like two things: it feels like treason and it feels like heresy,” he said.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/DavidMamet-BenjaminNetanyahu-BarackObama/2011/06/19/id/400544

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Ami Anne
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posted June 20, 2011 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are not a liberal when you are young,you do not have a heart.
If you are not a conservative when you are older ,you do not have a brain

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katatonic
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posted June 20, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are not a liberal when you are young,you do not have a heart.
If you are not a conservative when you are older ,you do not have a brain

ah yes, he had a way with words, didn't he, ami? churchill, that is. (though there is no evidence he actually said this..plenty of debate about that!)

ironically this quote is most self-serving...as a young man churchill was a liberal, in fact held government posts in a liberal govt (liberal for a monarchy anyway!)

he became a conservative AFTER HE WAS EJECTED from the liberal party. in other words, sour grapes and pragmatism led him to adopt the only other game in town that would have him.

it is true that many people become conservative with age. ESPECIALLY those from the aristocracy who have so much to lose by continuing to be black sheep! however churchill's wife remained a Liberal into her old age.

but he was neither the kind of liberal jwhop talks about, nor the kind of conservative we see today. his mother may have been american, but he was an english blueblood, not a "yank".

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Ami Anne
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posted June 20, 2011 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know who said it Kat.It just sounded good

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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jwhop
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posted June 20, 2011 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, Churchill...among others are credited with that statement...in various forms going all the way back to Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a
republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is
proof of want of head."

But, in all the quotes forms, it's nevertheless "true".

Oh, but you have to know what the terms meant in the times of which they were spoken.

For instance, Guisot was talking about France as a Republic or a Monarchy.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 21, 2011 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Actually, Churchill...among others are credited with that statement...in various forms going all the way back to Francois Guisot (1787-1874): [b]"Not to be a
republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is
proof of want of head."

But, in all the quotes forms, it's nevertheless "true".

Oh, but you have to know what the terms meant in the times of which they were spoken.

For instance, Guisot was talking about France as a Republic or a Monarchy.[/B]


True ,true ,true

PS I MUST have a little Eris in me

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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