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posted August 23, 2011 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm deeply shocked!

NOT


http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/quake-sensors-removed-around-virginia-nuke-p
coincidence that the earthquake epicenter was in Eric Cantor's district because he tried to de-fund USGS?

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posted August 24, 2011 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 24, 2011 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"coincidence that the earthquake epicenter was in Eric Cantor's district because he tried to de-fund USGS?"...Node

Yes, yes, we're all sure that earthquake knew right where to strike to give Eric Cantor a black eye.


A little anthropomorphic music Maestro!

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posted August 24, 2011 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone knows Bush is responsible for the earthquake.

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posted August 24, 2011 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, but natural gas fracking is known to contribute to instability of the table and crust.

So, the dick cheney is a much more likely candidate, as he was able to see to it that natural gas extraction does not have to comply to the clean water act. Making proliferation that much easier.
http://www.earthworksaction.org/fracturingearthquakes.cfm

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posted August 25, 2011 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There could also be a connection to the New Madrid Fault line. Fracking is terrible but it will cause 4-5 level quakes at most.
5.9 level is huge.

September 4-8 is another "quake window". I never thought the Eastern Side of USA was at risk. Most quake researchers focus on California and keep the fingers crossed for Yellowstone Caldera.

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posted August 25, 2011 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tameem, normally I would agree with the correlation between the low numbers [4-5] and fracking but experts have been saying for years that the East coast, particularly around the Appalachians, and upstate NY has been mentioned-- is "due" as in these guys think that the east might have a big one.

Fracking most certainly is terrible, I think that with the current probability and augmented by man made disturbances it could certainly contribute.

Arkansas has plenty of fracking, home of the New Madrid that you mentioned.
a list http://www.geology.ar.gov/geohazards/earthquakes.htm

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posted August 25, 2011 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the last quake on that fault of any notice was in 1944, about the same mag as this one.

before that, in 1886, there was a 7-ish one. it's a shallow fault and the reverberations go sideways much further than out west where they tend to be much more centered - and generally bigger.

it's just something that happens every so often, i'm afraid. our drilling, frakking and other rattling practices do not help for sure but they are not particularly responsible either.

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posted August 26, 2011 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Eco-Nuts have to have their catastrophe of the day-month-year-decade-century or millennium to feel good about themselves. Oh, and also to keep the donations and grants coming in so the useless, work adverse morons can continue their lifestyles on someone else's dime.

Since the man made global warming scam evaporated before their very eyes, they've chosen another supposed catastrophe to pi$s and moan about. Now, the "cause" of the day is "Fracking". It's Fracking that's going to poison the eco-system, not to mention bringing on swarms of EARTHQUAKES!

2011
Fracking Fluid Fear-Mongering Farce
By Alan M Aszkler

EPA bureaucrats and Green Avengers perpetrate a daily nonsensical assault touting the grave consequences of fracking fluid and its secret ingredients. Carnival barkers in the media blindly parrot fear-mongering articles from such noble sounding groups as "Natural Resources Defense Council," without offering a single shred of scientific evidence to substantiate their ruse. The forgone conclusion is that hydro-fracking will destroy the ecosystem and must be stopped; nothing could be further from the truth.

Hydro-fracking has a long history of success. First introduced in 1908, forty years later it became a commercially viable method to safely extract America's most abundant energy from bedrock strata. Over one million gas wells have been fracked without a single incident of environmental impact. This didn't stop Ian Urbina of the New York Times from citing a case from 1984 in an Aug 2011 article warning of tainted water and the possibility of benzene in fracking fluid.

Fracking fluid secret ingredients are not secret at all. EPA and state government Dept. of Environmental Conservation agencies require energy companies to file Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) for every chemical used on the drill site, period.

Ninety percent of fracking fluid is water with 9.5% sand the other half percent the secret ingredients, common household chemicals we all flush daily into the municipal gray water system.

The diagram below is from the US Department of Energy.



The Pennsylvania Dept. of Environmental Protection, in the interest of providing open and accurate information to satisfy public concern, gave the Associated Press a list of the MSDS that all fracking contractors must file.

The AP sounded the alarm highlighting three compounds that appeared on the lists because of the risks they pose to human health -- naphthalene, toluene and xylene. Eco-activists had a field day claiming that deadly BTEX compounds (benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, xylene) in fracking fluid will poison the water, killing fish, flora, and fauna while releasing fatal concentrations of the green death into the atmosphere.

It was much ado about nothing. Scott Perry, the director of DEP's Bureau of Oil and Gas Management, accepted the blame because he provided the AP with the comprehensive list of all chemicals used at PA's well sites. Not just the chemicals pumped deep underground but also those stored or used on a well site, including fuel and brake fluid for vehicles. DEP spokesman Tom Rathbun, said of hydraulic fracturing fluids, a fear that those chemicals will interfere with drinking water aquifers -- is misplaced.

"It's our experience in Pennsylvania that we have not had one case in which the fluids used to break off the gas from 5,000 to 8,000 feet (1,500-2,400 m) underground have returned to contaminate ground water." - John Hanger, former secretary of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection.

Environmentalist websites are still publishing the secret ingredient deadly chemical fallacy. Reluctantly, they do acknowledge the overwhelming safety record and lack of groundwater contamination while shifting their focus to traces of thermogenic methane in well water.

Canadian environmental agencies publish documents warning anyone using well water about the dangers and history of naturally occurring "thermogenic" methane in ground water. None of our agencies provide this information.

For the real secrets and conspiracies, read about our EPA's abuse of power in Mario Loyola's article published in the Weekly Standard on August 13, 2011. This is a dramatic example of government run amok. Residents in a Texas suburb had natural gas in their water wells for years before any fracking took place. EPA's righteous indignation outweighed the facts. Naturally occurring methane in the town's groundwater legally allowed the EPA to issue an emergency order shutting down another American energy company, regardless of the truth.

The Natural Resources Defense Council states, "Climate Change Threatens Health! Children, the elderly, and communities living in poverty are among the most vulnerable" Most in this demographic stateside heat their homes with natural gas.

Why are government agencies, eco-lobbyists, and progressive media pundits perpetrating the relentless attack on America's most abundant energy commodity?

In fracking, American ingenuity in a free-market economy once again has created technological advances bringing to market natural gas at a cost that is cheaper today than it was ten years ago. Hundreds of small- to medium-sized family businesses and corporations creating thousands of good-paying jobs have triumphed over ever encroaching punitive regulations to heat the homes of single moms and fixed-income seniors everywhere with affordable American natural gas.

Solar and wind energy projects in our country and around the world are failing. Vast government funding and price-control legislation have tipped the playing field overwhelmingly in the green energy alchemists' favor and they still cannot compete in a free market. Every day it seems another substantially government-funded green energy techno-fallacy files for bankruptcy.

"Drill here drill now" works because it already has with natural gas!
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/fracking_fluid_fear-mongering_farce.html

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posted August 26, 2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no matter who is to blame for the quake, it puts all nuclear stations near the fault at risk, and irene (only the beginning of the season mind you!) coming along behind puts the possibility of a fukushima scenario well forward.

the fact is that all such plants are hazards-in-waiting and especially in the current frenzy of deregulation (and corruption in the regulating sector too) where, as we have seen way too many times, corners WILL BE CUT and make the risk even higher.

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posted August 26, 2011 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh

Sanity

TY Katatonic.

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posted August 27, 2011 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Everyone knows Bush is responsible for the earthquake.


@comradescott: Evidently the quake occurred on a little known fault line outside of DC called "Bush's Fault". #tcot #p2

Haa haa... So true.. so true

As far as the whole "Nuke reactor" BS.. come on..Earthquakes are incredibly rare on the East Coast, the reactors are not as much in danger, especially if people followed the rules about the Earth quake or Natural disaster codes. We have been doing this for years on the west coast. However, there are times when NOTHING can prevent a disaster.

Why is it that when anything natural happens and destroys our infrastructure, the greenies come out and blame technology? Please, get over it because it just makes you look like total idiots.

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posted August 27, 2011 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
because, archer lady, the rules and regulations are not being followed! so they ARE disasters in waiting. the decrepitude of many of our nuke stations is well known. the quake knocked out power to the one near there and so irene is a threat to its integrity. period.

corners will be cut. whether by govt employees or those who don't think we need corners. as happened in the gulf.

thankfully irene has turned out to be not worth all the preps. hitting land as a cat 1 it will likely weaken as it progresses.

but the preparations put in place were a very good indication of how much control we actually have over the WEATHER, which does what it does and USUALLY FOILS us when we think we know too much.

this is why i disagree with the climate change crowd...they think we know enough to forestall (or even predict) what is to come, when in fact anything we do in that vein usually just makes things WORSE.

i do not blame technology, but i blame people for the widespread installation of technology they don't really know how to control. because you are right, sometimes disaster just happens.

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posted August 27, 2011 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BearsArcher.

See? I knew all along "Bush did it".

Yep, there's that contingent of leftists who want to regress the US back to the mid 19th Century.

Any excuse will do.

Man made global warming
Fracking
Nuclear power
Hydroelectric Power

Let me remind those regressionists.

More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died from US nuclear power plant accidents.

Always have to have their imagined catastrophes.

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posted August 27, 2011 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that is the official story, jwhop. but i don't hear you agreeing with the official story about chappaquidick...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harvey-wasserman/people-died-at-three-mile_b_179588.html

TMI's owners did quietly pay out millions in damages to area residents whose children were born with genetic damage, among other things. The payments came in exchange for silence among those receiving them.

firsthand accounts of what happened at 3 mile island vary considerably from what the govt of the US and Pennsylvania would have you believe.

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posted August 28, 2011 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For once, I can agree with you Kat--we have no control over the weather.

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