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katatonic
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posted March 13, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-americans-back-buffett-tax-215729246.html

this reminded me of jwhop's statement that 60% of americans self-define as conservatives...i wonder if they define conservative the same way he does?

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posted March 14, 2012 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat

He posted that on Amelia's thread. I was having a disagreement with him.

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posted March 14, 2012 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah but Americans..when asked...as I showed you....self identify as conservative to the tune of about 60% of the population. Decade, after decade, after decade.

How stupid could leftists..and especially the Marxist O'Bomber really be to think they're going to take a nation of mostly conservatives and turn them into Socialists.

Not happening.

O'Bomber is hitting new lows in polling as Americans find out exactly who and what O'Bomber..and the Socialist and Communist jerks he brought into his administration really are.

His attempt ot use the "Occupiers" blew up in his face and now, the phony issue of women's health overriding the 1st Amendment has blown up in his face. Gas prices and no drill anywhere policies are blowing up in his face. O'BomberCare and his Cap and Tax energy plan blew up in his face too. Everything O'Bomber touches turns to pure crap right in his hands. Surely, there has never been a more stupid, incompetent, bungling idiot in the Oval Office.

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posted March 14, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well maybe you are right. i certainly identify as a conservative...then there is that other bunch the "radical conservatives" as if the two words don't cancel each other out...

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posted March 15, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps it time you defined "radical conservative" katatonic

A list of names would be helpful too!

Watch out katatonic, you're about to step straight into IT.

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posted March 15, 2012 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i suggest you define "conservative" first jwhop. as to your predictions, i don't set much store by them.

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posted March 16, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Yeah but Americans..when asked...as I showed you....self identify as conservative to the tune of about 60% of the population. Decade, after decade, after decade.

How stupid could leftists..and especially the Marxist O'Bomber really be to think they're going to take a nation of mostly conservatives and turn them into Socialists.


Funny because this country in 2008 (what a year) voted for B. Obama over J. McCain into that oval office. Oops I guess Americans aren't as conservative as you assumed. We can consider the circumstances of that vote, however the facts speak for themselves. Times have changed Jwhop. And I'm not afraid to self identify myself as a Independent thinker. Not a leftist, or conservative, or socialist. This country is changing, what was is simply no more and thank goodness. I'm just counting down the days till November.

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posted March 16, 2012 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Kat is a conservative, I guess that makes me a socialist.

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posted March 16, 2012 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep Randall!

You're the one...katatonic....who brought up "radical conservatives".

All I asked was for a definition...and some examples.

If your mouth isn't connected to your brain..then just say so and I'll omit asking you questions about "your definitions".

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posted March 16, 2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm, how quickly leftists forget...or simply want to wipe the memory of the 2010 elections out of their minds.

Because of the idiot, Barack Hussein O'Bomber, Republicans picked up the most seats in the US House in about 70 years. Most of those who went home...demoscats...not to return to Congress...supported O'BomberCare and all the other leftist insanity put forth by O'Bomber, Pee-Lousy and Hairy Reid.

Further, Republicans picked up 6 US Senate Seats...because of O'Bomber, O'BomberCare, O'Bomber Cap and Trade, O'Bomber Union Card Check and a host of other leftist wet dreams which were enacted or attempted to be enacted by Senate demoscats.

Yes, we can hardly wait until November...when demoscats will have to defend 23 more Senate Seats compared to a relative few Republican seats up for reelection in the Senate.

No matter how much O'Bomber and congressional demoscats lie and try to change the subject about what they've done to the economy, oil prices and just about every other attack on Americans, America, American institutions and religious rights; this coming election is going to be all about the idiot O'Bomber and the morons demoscats in the House and Senate who attempted to march America off a cliff.

I'd say good luck, but that would be a lie and lies are not necessary in any event, when talking about the idiocy of O'Bomber and his Socialist Comrades in Congress.

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posted March 16, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
If Kat is a conservative, I guess that makes me a socialist.

ROLFL You guys kill me in here


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posted March 16, 2012 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well randall, you could as easily be a socialist as anything else you care to CALL YOURSELF. when answering polls lots of people MISidentify themselves. i have heard people claim to be all manner of things they didn't appear to be...

the point of that statement was a) jwhop is sure i am a "leftist" because i point out the holes in his assumptions and b) claiming that people self-identify as conservatives is a wholly empty declaration because different people define conservative/socialist/centrist/libertarian in different ways.

actually i don't identify with any party or persuasion. i guess that makes me an "independent"?!!

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posted March 17, 2012 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see there are still some among us for whom words have no fixed meanings.

They just make up their definitions for words as they go along.

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posted March 17, 2012 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes we are living in the tower of babel. so how do YOU define conservative?

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posted March 17, 2012 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"yes we are living in the tower of babel. so how do YOU define conservative?"..katatonic

I asked you first katatonic and you...apparently can't come up with an answer for the term you used.."radical conservatives".

If you can't define the term, why are you using it?

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posted March 17, 2012 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"yes we are living in the tower of babel. so how do YOU define conservative?"..katatonic

I asked you first katatonic and you...apparently can't come up with an answer for the term you used.."radical conservatives".

If you can't define the term, why are you using it?


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posted March 17, 2012 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the point of this post, for those who have not yet twigged, is that labels are irrelevant.

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posted March 17, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which is why I started the other thread Kat ( I am pretty sure you knew that, ) however what people self identify with is of import.

too bad all of the lurkers failed to weigh in.
It is assumed that because this is an astrology site first, that most are lefties... I am not as certain of that as others are.

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