posted March 26, 2012 10:13 AM            

So, they finally got it...by massive lying about it's 2700 page contents, by bribing Senators and House Members, by polluting the political system and the news information industry in America. That got them a massive defeat at the polls in 2010, a Republican House and 6 new Republican Senators.

One would think this would have been cause for massive celebrations all across America with marching bands, parades and all the hoopla the Socialists could gin up on the 2nd Anniversary of the passage of O'BomberCare.

Instead, there was the silence of the tomb from the Socialists about the 2nd anniversary of the passage of O'BomberCare.

The Signature piece and Centerpiece of legislation for O'Bomber's administration, the very legislation O'Bomber will always be known for getting passed wasn't even talked about. No bands, no White House parties, no parades, no newspaper headlines, no morning to midnight talking heads, panels and Socialist anchors on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC gushing over the O'Bomber success in passing O'BomberCare.

Oh, don't get me wrong. There were people gathered all over America...even in Washington DC on the 2nd anniversary of O'BomberCare. They were not silent, though if anyone was watching the various Socialist News Networks...the ones I've already mentioned...they wouldn't have learned much, if anything about those O'BomberCare marches and speeches.

So, I thought it was funny..so appropriate and in perfect harmony with Sarah Palin's Indomitable will, spirit and intellect that she once again stuck her intellectual knife in O'Bomber's ribs and did so in so few words.

"In “honor” of the second anniversary of President Obama’s health care disaster, Governor Palin posted the following on Facebook, stated as only she can:

Mr. President, you’re conspicuously absent from the 2-year anniversary of your “greatest accomplishment” (described by your VP as “a big f***ing deal”). Where’s the party? Concerned citizens around the country recognized the 2-year anniversary of Obamacare by protesting its attack on religious liberty. Oral arguments on Obamacare start next Monday, March 26, before the Supreme Court. Voting out Obama starts on Nov. 6".

posted March 26, 2012 10:47 AM            

The Washington Post (by Associated Press)
"A brief summary of the 900-page-plus Affordable Care Act, unless noted provisions take effect in 2014:

—Provides coverage to more than 30 million uninsured.

—Expands Medicaid to cover more uninsured low-income people.

—Creates exchanges, state-based health insurance markets, for small businesses and people buying private coverage individually.

—Provides government subsidies for many middle-class people buying private health insurance through an exchange.

—Allows young adults to stay on parents’ coverage until age 26. Already in effect.

—Requires health plans to cover preventive care without charging co-pays. Already in effect.

—Requires most citizens and legal residents to carry health insurance, either through an employer, a government program or by buying a policy directly. IRS will assess fines for noncompliance.

—Requires companies with 50 or more workers to provide coverage, or pay fines if any of their employees ends up getting a health insurance subsidy.

—Raises taxes on upper-income households; imposes a variety of taxes and fees on the health care industry. Places a 10 percent sales tax on indoor tanning. Some taxes already in effect.

—Cuts Medicare payments to hospitals, insurers and other service providers; improves preventive benefits for Medicare recipients and gradually closes prescription drug coverage gap. Limits future increases in Medicare spending. Some Medicare provisions already in effect.

—Significantly increases federal regulation of the health insurance industry. Already in effect.

—Congressional Budget Office estimates coverage expansion will have a net cost of $1.1 trillion from 2012-2021. Spending cuts and tax increases are currently projected to offset the cost, for a modest reduction in federal budget deficits." http://www.washingtonpost.com/bu siness/economy/a-brief-look-at-what-the-affordable-care-act-is-designed-to-do/2012/03/26/gIQAGzJQbS_story.html

posted March 26, 2012 11:14 AM            

Imagine the premiums IF the rest of the package is passed???

And how is this is a benefit to the average American again??

posted March 26, 2012 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You forgot one: Creates 150 new government agencies. How fitting that another illegal body (the IRS) should enforce it. But all anyone has to do is claim religious opposition and be exempt. Fail. Epic fail. Let's hope the Supreme Court puts an end to this insanity.

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The problem is that the Supreme Court has insidiously been invaded by people the likes of Ruth Bader Ginsberg who is a disgrace and that other one Elena Kagel. Makes me embarrassed as a Jew

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posted March 26, 2012 01:08 PM            

O'BomberCare takes about $550 Billion...more than half a TRILLION DOLLARS...out of Medicare which senior citizens have paid into all or most of their adult working lives.

This will surely cause rationing of health care services for those who have paid for medical services...and they paid all through their lives and they paid in advance through an involuntary tax on their earnings and a tax on their employers.

Your arguments lack common sense. If you want a Socialist health care system, move to Canada, move to France, move to Britain but get the hell out of the United States. The vast majority of Americans do not want O'BomberCare and never did...in spite of all the lying by O'Bomber, by his Socialist pals in congress and the lying, drooling O'Bomber press, Americans do not want O'BomberCare, do not want the mandates forcing them to engage in commerce and want O'BomberCare repealed in it's entirety. Not fixed but REPEALED.

posted March 26, 2012 04:27 PM            

Is that basically what you`re saying NJ?

It sounds completely divisive vs open minded.

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Jwhop, Americans can speak for themselves.

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posted March 26, 2012 05:23 PM            

Your other thread aside, I agree millenials are apathetic so my opinion does not matter?

Defend jwhop? Really NJ?

Seriously, you can do better than that!

And yes, you are an opinionated rep of the group and I was curious who voted you rep of that entire group?

No one voted jwhop one either.

posted March 26, 2012 08:07 PM            

And yes I am one of the many Millenials, however this thread isn't about my generation it's about the Affordable Care Act otherwise known by it's slandered name thanks to the Gop: Obamacare. And as you noted being a Millenial might be a part of my thought process however I didn't personally reiterate anything related to Millenials on this thread you did in an attempt to discredit my arguments against Jwhop. But by all means.

posted March 26, 2012 09:30 PM            

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Yes, Juniperb, my assessment of you defending Jwhop still stands. I know amusing right? I've got quite an imagination.

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Again, your thought continuum is comming from your posts that gave us your ideals and party preference and yes, it will play into every stand you take. Simply like jwhops
preferences and ideals do.

posted March 26, 2012 09:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I've no doubt it will be repealed. It's only Constitutional if an Amendment is created.

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Yes, I agree.

Polls are showing most Americans are against it. Are any judges up for reelection yet ?

posted March 26, 2012 10:29 PM            

I don't care what other people write on other threads especially if it has no purpose on the thread I'm currently posting on. I can't hold someone accountable for the things they've said on other threads, I could be misinterpreting their statements and they could have changed their points of view. I'm not going to argue about things I've discussed on other threads because they don't pertain to this thread regardless of whomever chooses to believe that they do. If they are my words and I haven't stated them on this thread, then they can and will be taken out of context therefore unless I've stated it on this thread, claims brought against my own words have no place outside of the context in which they were written in. I'm opting out of discussing them and stay on the TOPIC of this thread.

I just don't understand why YOU are so concerned with what I've said on other threads. They don't pertain to this one and aren't a valid argument for trying to school me on how I formulate premises in regards to Jwhop. I haven't spoken about the Affordable Care Act on other threads and unless I have any other opinions I've voiced outside of this thread have no place in regards to this threads contents.

posted March 26, 2012 10:53 PM            

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But you speak out of both sides of your mouth by chastising jw for speaking for Americans when you do the very same thing... just for a different targeted group.

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My statement stands and eventually you will think outside the box you have erected for your self

In regards to a private conversation with jwhop, you`re on a public forum where every opinion / voice matters.

posted March 27, 2012 12:41 AM            

that's a joke, my daughter
is legally blind, and on social
security, denied by medicaid
twice, we are now on our 3rd appeal...

it's all a joke!

posted March 27, 2012 02:12 PM            

so i don't know about the "pre-existing condition" aspect of obamacare(if it is in place already? i don't do doctors personally!), but it should help your child?

posted March 27, 2012 07:16 PM            

I live in New Hampshire..
The reason for the denials,
is that they use old information
instead of current information
on purpose..
for that makes no Sense..

you have to jump through hoops
of fire
to get anything..

it's very dis ening...