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jwhop
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posted May 30, 2012 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barack Obama has insulted 38 million Poles with his crass and ignorant 'Polish death camp' remark
By Nile Gardiner
May 30th, 2012

Barack Obama gaffes again on the world stage
President Obama has a long track record of insulting the Poles. In 2010 he chose to play golf on the day of the funeral of the Polish President Lech Kaczynski, the Polish First Lady, and 94 senior officials who perished in the Smolensk air disaster. Eight months earlier he humiliated Warsaw by pulling out of the agreement over Third Site missile defence installations in Poland and the Czech Republic. And last night Barack Obama caused huge offence in Poland by referring to a Nazi death camp in Poland as “a Polish death camp” while awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a Polish resistance fighter. As ABC’s Jake Tapper reported:

Poles and Polish-Americans expressed outrage today at President Obama’s reference earlier to “a Polish death camp” — as opposed to a Nazi death camp in German-occupied Poland.

“The White House will apologize for this outrageous error,” Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski tweeted. Sikorski said that Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk “will make a statement in the morning. It’s a pity that this important ceremony was upstaged by ignorance and incompetence.”

The president had been trying to honor a famous Pole, awarding a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Jan Karski, a resistance fighter who sneaked behind enemy lines to bear witness to the atrocities being committed against Jews. President Obama referred to him being smuggled “into the Warsaw ghetto and a Polish death camp to see for himself.”

The Obama administration has tried to downplay the incident. According to ABC:

National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a statement, “The President was referring to Nazi death camps operated in Poland. The President has demonstrated in word and deed his rock-solid commitment to our close alliance with Poland.”

Weasel words from the White House will do little however to calm Polish anger. After all, these were carefully scripted remarks by the president reading off a teleprompter. Six millions Poles died at the hands of Nazi Germany during World War Two, including three million Polish Jews during the Holocaust. The president’s use of the term “Polish death camp” is hugely insulting to the Polish people, and will reinforce the growing image across Eastern and Central Europe of an American presidency that cares little for key US allies, especially against the backdrop of its controversial and weak-kneed “reset” policy towards Russia. For a US administration that likes to boast of “smart power,” this was an act of staggering historical ignorance as well as crass insensitivity.
http://blogs.telegrap h.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100161347/barack-obama-has-insulted-38-million-poles-with-his-crass-and-ignorant-polish-death-camp-remark/

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posted May 30, 2012 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber is a freaking disgrace all around. I hope to God he doesn't get elected and/or steal the election.
I won't get into this, as I don't want to start in on it, but his lack of understanding of the Middle East is the reason it is out of control.
If he gets a second term, there will be no way to go back from ALL the damage he has caused in the US and abroad imo.
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You know what, to be real? I don't care if a person makes a mistake such as saying the wrong thing, the wrong words. Everyone does. No one can understand everything. He should apologize, if he offended people, as we all have to do.

I think his disgrace is in taking this country to the near brink of ruin with his hubris.

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posted May 31, 2012 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber didn't "misspeak"..as his lying minions want to suggest. O'Bomber was reading from a Teleprompter. O'Bomber and his whole staff are just duds and the sooner they're all gone back to Chicago, the better off this country will be.

White House shrugs off Polish apology demands

The White House on Wednesday shrugged off Polish demands to express more than mere 'regret' after President Barack Obama mistakenly referred to a Nazi Holocaust site as a "Polish death camp."

"We regret the misstatement, but that is what it was," said Obama spokesman Jay Carney, reiterating that the president "misspoke" during a ceremony awarding the highest US civilian honor to late Holocaust hero Jan Karski.

"He was referring to Nazi death camps in German-occupied Poland."

Poland had earlier insisted that Washington must do more than simply express the "regret" offered by another White House spokesman late on Tuesday, hours after Obama's use of words deemed offensive by Warsaw.

Obama's verbal slip overshadowed his posthumous award of the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Karski, a Polish underground officer who provided the Allies with early eyewitness accounts of Nazi genocide against European Jews.

Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Obama's words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just regret.

"I am convinced that our American friends can today allow themselves a stronger reaction than a simple expression of regret from the White House spokesman -- a reaction more inclined to eliminate once and for all these kinds of errors," Tusk told reporters in Warsaw.

"Today, this is a problem for the reputation of the United States," the prime minister said.

Members of Poland's Jewish community -- including the country's Chief Rabbi Michael Schudrich -- said in a statement that: "We expect President Barack Obama to personally correct his words."

Poland's President Bronislaw Komorowski said meanwhile he had sent a letter to Obama "counting on (...) cooperation in correcting this unfortunate error" which "I am certain in no way reflects the thoughts or views of our American friend."

US officials reiterated Wednesday that Obama had visited the Warsaw Ghetto Memorial during his visit to Poland last year and had repeatedly paid tribute to the bravery of Poles during World War II.

Between 1939 and 1945, nearly six million Polish citizens perished under Nazi Germany's brutal World War II occupation of their country.

More than half of Poland's victims were of Jewish origin and they, in turn, accounted for half of the six million European Jews who perished during the Holocaust.

Many were killed in death camps set up by Nazi Germany in occupied Poland -- including the most notorious, Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Poland's government keenly watches the global media for descriptions of former Nazi German death camps as "Polish" because it says the term -- even if used simply as a geographical indicator -- can give the impression that Poland bore responsibility for Nazi Germany's World War II genocide.

Karski, who was a clandestine officer of the Polish government-in-exile in London, witnessed scenes of starvation and death after infiltrating Warsaw's Jewish Ghetto and visiting a Nazi transit camp sending Jews to death chambers.

Karski took his eye witness testimony to wartime US president Franklin Roosevelt. He later became a professor of history at Georgetown University and died in Washington aged 86 in 2000.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-nazi-death-camp-gaffe-hurt-poles-pm-110505006.html

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posted May 31, 2012 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any Jew who votes for Obama is an idiot imho

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posted May 31, 2012 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ain't that the truth...and for a variety of reasons...not just this reason!

O'Bomber is the most hostile president to the nation of Israel since the nation was founded in 1948.

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Ain't that the truth...and for a variety of reasons...not just this reason!

O'Bomber is the most hostile president to the nation of Israel since the nation was founded in 1948.


So freaking true.

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This administration is an enemy to Israel and our other friendly nations, but they coddle our enemies. Not to mention that Eric Holder when he was practicing law used to represent terrorists for free! And now we are supposed to believe that he suddenly is against them?

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Originally posted by Randall:
This administration is an enemy to Israel and our other friendly nations, but they coddle our enemies. Not to mention that Eric Holder when he was practicing law used to represent terrorists for free! And now we are supposed to believe that he suddenly is against them?



Lovely words to hear, Randall

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posted June 01, 2012 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
June 1, 2012
Sybil Hussein Obama?
By Lauri B. Regan

On the same day that the Polish foreign minister called Obama ignorant and incompetent for referring to a "Polish death camp" during a ceremony intended to honor a Polish war hero, the POTUS substantiated the accusations as he declared before an audience of Conservative Jews that he "probably knows about Judaism more than any other president, because he read about it."

The man who apparently believes he is "The First Jewish President" has revealed yet another persona meant to wow a particular demographic. But by adding one more element to the amalgamation of the composite individual running the country, who evolves faster than Charles Darwin could say "natural selection," Obama is proving that he actually knows less about everything other than race-baiting and class warfare than any other president, because he learned about those things.

Obama's latest narcissistic assertion is not surprising from the man who bills himself as one of the top four presidents in the history of the country. But the most knowledgeable about Judaism? On what does Obama base such an absurd statement? And what has he been reading that has led him to make such a ludicrous pronouncement? We can certainly rest assured that his days spent in the pews of Trinity Church did not involve studying the Old Testament. As Bill Kristol states:

His vanity boggles the mind. One could begin by citing Adams and Madison, who knew Hebrew, or Harry Truman, who knew Jewish history ... but it's silly to dignify this claim with a rebuttal. In thinking about the presidents since Truman, though, I'd guess the president who knew the most about Judaism was Jimmy Carter, who taught Sunday school and had a deep interest in religion. So let's stipulate that of the modern presidents, Carter and Obama "know" the most about Judaism. But what is it they know? In Obama's case, one could ask whether what he "knows" is what he learned from Rashid Khalidi and Jeremiah Wright.

And from John Podhoretz:

So let's move on to the fact that every president until the modern era knew more about Judaism than Barack Obama because the Bible was the one book every literate person knew, and the Bible includes the books Christians call the "Old Testament," and a working knowledge of the Old Testament certainly is the best introduction to "Judaism" there is.

Obama apparently forgot how ridiculous he sounded when he stated that "nobody has spoken out more fiercely on the issue of anti-Semitism than I have." Jake Tapper pointed out at the time:

Really?

No one?

Elie Wiesel? Simon Wiesenthal? Alan Dershowitz?

No One?

Wow.

But all of this is coming from the man who proclaimed, "We are partners with God in matters of life and death." In that one arrogant and hubristic statement, Obama proved he knows absolutely nothing about Judaism, for while it may be that Islamic jihadists believe themselves to be partners with Allah in matters of death, individuals living under the teachings of Judeo-Christian beliefs and values know better than to declare themselves partners with the Almighty in anything. Perhaps Obama would have more press conferences if he could force the press corps to begin each meeting worshiping his holiness with "Blessed are You, Adonai our God, Ruler of the Universe"; however, even Chris Matthews would likely give up his tingle before reciting such nonsense.

There are additional indications that Obama knows very little about Judaism. Obama's gaffe earlier this week in which he called a Nazi concentration camp a "Polish death camp" certainly indicates a lack of understanding of history. And let us not forget that while running for office, Obama made the grandiose claim that he had an uncle who was part of the first American troops to liberate Auschwitz. The RNC quickly pointed out that unless Obama's uncle served in the Red Army, his story was a fabrication. Obama's spin-meisters quickly offered up the excuse that it was a minor mistake and his uncle had been at the liberation of Buchenwald -- the historian-in-chief should have known the difference.

One of Obama's most egregious misstatements was made in his infamous Cairo speech, when he used the Holocaust as the justification for Israel's existence while ignoring the Jewish people's biblical, historical, and legal connections to the Land of Canaan. And more recently, Obama graciously squeezed into his busy schedule a Hannukah party -- two weeks early -- and lit all of the candles on the Menorah, exclaiming that "we never need an excuse for a good party."

But even granting Obama his claims of brilliance, the label is meaningless. Plenty of Israel-bashers are knowledgeable about Judaism. Noam Chomsky, M.J. Rosenberg, and Peter Beinart could qualify as such but would never be called Israel's friends. [i]Obama made up a ridiculous proclamation of self-interest while hoping the public would ignore his record that speaks volumes about the fact that he is in fact the least friendly POTUS to Israel since its founding.

While proclaiming his Jewish bona fides, Obama personality 15 did not stop there. The man who doth protest too much not only whined that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell are not asked about their support for Israel, but went on to explain that many of his friends in Chicago are Jewish. This statement served to prove Obama's childish bona fides while at the same time using the lamest excuse in the book to deny that he is not a friend to Israel.

Even Obama, in infusing himself into the Trayvon Martin debacle, seemed to denounce the claim that George Zimmerman could not have been racially motivated since Zimmerman had black friends. In an article entitled "Trayvon Martin: The Problem with the 'Some of My Best Friends Are Black' Defense," Nowile M. Rooks wrote, "Research on racial perception proves that even the most diverse group of friends doesn't make one immune to race-based prejudice." Our brilliant president must have been hanging with the Choom Gang on the day that lesson was taught at Columbia.

And as long as Obama wants to discuss his friends, let us take a look at the individuals whom we know he surrounded himself with during his days in Chicago. There is of course Reverend Jeremiah "God damn America and Israel" Wright, who was Obama's spiritual advisor, mentor, and close family friend. Obama friends and domestic terrorists Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers are now supporters of the Free Gaza Movement, call Israel an apartheid state, and support the BDS movement. Then there is Palestinian Rashid Khalidi, of whom Obama spoke so warmly at Khalidi's going away party several years ago and with whom he and Michelle shared quiet dinners that he stated served as "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots."

In addition to Obama's anti-Semitic friends of whom we know, he also had friends in Chicago about whom we are still learning. In "The Chicago Way," John Fund discusses Obama's close relationship with "gatekeeper and spokesman for Obama's inner circle" Eric Whitaker, convicted felon Tony Rezko, intimate advisor Valerie Jarrett, and others. Interestingly, not one of Obama's friends whom we know as a friend or confidant is Jewish. The people in Obama's life who are Jewish serve as his useful idiots. Rahm "Dead Fish" Emanuel gave him cover and bragging rights, while Penny Pritzker is a campaign bundler hosting fundraisers for the billion-dollar man.

And while we know the president enjoys "a good party," the real question is whether he enjoys sharing them with Jewish people when they do not involve raising money for his campaign. In a New York Times report on the history of "the Obama Seder," candidate Obama joined several staff members in a small gathering during the Passover holiday that fell during the campaign. Obama invited several African-American friends who "peppered the outnumbered Jews at the table with questions...'We're not exactly crack Hebrew scholars,'" responded one of the Obama staffers. Apparently, the man who claims to know more about Judaism than the 43 U.S. presidents who preceded him was also incapable of responding to any of the questions relating to the Passover story. But the article does share with us that Obama took it upon himself to revise the Haggadah ending the Seder with "Next year in the White House!"

What we also learn from the Times story is that the Seder is now a WH tradition, and "[n]o one considered inviting prominent rabbis or other Jewish leaders; it is a private event." We also learn that "as in many Jewish households, the Obama Seder seems to take on new meaning each year, depending on what is happening in the world and in participants' lives." Wrong. The meaning of the Jewish holiday has not changed in thousands of years.

The man who claimed to "serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views" is nothing of the sort. He is more like Sybil, intentionally morphing into a different persona when he determines it politically expedient. He is certainly not knowledgeable about Judaism, he is not an honest man, and he has spent his life in the midst of some very bad people. Obama's personality will be vetted this time around whether he likes it or not. And grandiose statements made in the shadows of Greek columns will prove to be incapable of supporting his faux image and multiple personalities, just as the European Union has proven incapable of supporting the faltering Greek economy.

While the rest of the country is waking up to the fact that the smartest man to catapult to the highest office in the land may not actually be as brilliant as his handlers would have us believe, Obama has yet to take off his rose-colored glasses when he views himself in the mirror.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/sybil_hussein_obama.html

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posted June 07, 2012 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
This administration is an enemy to Israel and our other friendly nations, but they coddle our enemies. Not to mention that Eric Holder when he was practicing law used to represent terrorists for free! And now we are supposed to believe that he suddenly is against them?


Obama has struck me as a huge supporter of Israel, even more than Bush was, so I'm mystified that you'd say this. This is just one example (and if I felt lazy there are other examples I could also list), this one to contrast Bush & Obama:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/25/iran.israelandthepalestinians1

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Israel gave serious thought this spring to launching a military strike on Iran's nuclear sites but was told by President George W Bush that he would not support it and did not expect to revise that view for the rest of his presidency, senior European diplomatic sources have told the Guardian.

The then prime minister, Ehud Olmert, used the occasion of Bush's trip to Israel for the 60th anniversary of the state's founding to raise the issue in a one-on-one meeting on May 14, the sources said. "He took it [the refusal of a US green light] as where they were at the moment, and that the US position was unlikely to change as long as Bush was in office", they added.

The sources work for a European head of government who met the Israeli leader some time after the Bush visit. Their talks were so sensitive that no note-takers attended, but the European leader subsequently divulged to his officials the highly sensitive contents of what Olmert had told him of Bush's position.

Bush's decision to refuse to offer any support for a strike on Iran appeared to be based on two factors, the sources said. One was US concern over Iran's likely retaliation, which would probably include a wave of attacks on US military and other personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as on shipping in the Persian Gulf.

The other was US anxiety that Israel would not succeed in disabling Iran's nuclear facilities in a single assault even with the use of dozens of aircraft. It could not mount a series of attacks over several days without risking full-scale war. So the benefits would not outweigh the costs


But then we got Change:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sandy-tolan/obama-and-the-perils-of-g_b_158540.html

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Indeed, there may be little reason to think that an Obama administration will bring a more even-handed policy to the Middle East. His chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is an Israeli-American whose father was a member of Irgun, an extremist organization that carried out attacks on civilians, including the bombing of Jerusalem's King David hotel, in the years before Israel was established. A leading candidate to be Obama's Middle East envoy, Dennis Ross, has deep ties to pro-Israel lobbying groups, and a record of failure as part of President Clinton's Middle East team. And Obama himself has gone to great lengths to avoid criticizing Israel; indeed, the first speech he made after clinching the Democratic nomination was a fawning address to AIPAC, the hardline pro-Israel lobbying group.

IOW, Obama is actually more ready to stand with Israel and attack Iran than Bush was. And this isn't the only way he's supported Israel. (Given how many liberals have suddenly decided that civil liberties, war, and blind support of Israel is no longer important and the media beats the drum of war for the government while overlooking the more troubling aspects now that there's a Democrat in the White House I'd think a lot of conservatives should be happy that the government can finally focus on killing terrorists without public or media backlash. )

And even his acceptance speech to the Nobel Peace Prize which he was ironically given had this response from conservative Andrew Sullivan (granted, being British he's outside the usual partisan bickering which is more about dishonest and dishonorable attacks on each other, and if he's “a liberal” then Ron Paul is even more liberal than him) who said Obama was more conservative than Bush, at least when it comes to military adventures.
http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2009/12/the-tragedy-of-hope/193096/

And then there's Obama's support of drastic NDAA measures and that he has a cabal free of judicial oversight (in short granting himself dictatorial powers) that places people on secret kill lists, including American citizens, with nothing more than “we can't prove it but he was a bad, bad man.” As far as I know these were all (supposedly) Islamic terrorists from the Middle East (even the American citizen). And while US media (including FOX) is almost completely silent on it he's well known for frequent support of drone attacks (which he's expanded) and doesn't care about collateral damage such as in Pakistan and it's real hard to find out about the “shadow war” in Yemen. Some drone attacks go off at funerals which kill many innocents (including children) on the assumption that sympathizers for a dead Taliban or whatever are also attending the funeral and also have sent 2nd drone strikes to kill possible sympathizers (and not caring about genuine emergency workers and good samaritans who are also there).

IMO, this is very stupid because it creates enemies faster than we can kill them, but in no way can I see this as “coddling our enemies.”

And Eric Holder agrees with Obama's shadow war, use of drones, and putting even American citizens on secret kill lists without any kind of trial or constitutional due process:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/03/05/Holder-defends-killing-of-terroris ts/UPI-44901330938000/

Hopefully you can see why I was so surprised by your statement. Can you explain it?

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posted June 07, 2012 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No way, Pixie! The worst president in US history to Israel, by far!

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posted June 07, 2012 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why?

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Oh dear Pixie
I appreciate your genuine question but the topic is the single most heart felt, to me. I am not up for the debate that this topic brings, as it takes a lot out of me, emotionally.
If you care to e mail me, I would be happy to share with you. Are you on the LL FB group? If so, we could be FB friends and I could send you info.

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posted June 07, 2012 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne,

you wrote...

I appreciate your genuine question but the topic is the single most heart felt, to me.

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the topic is the single most heart felt

are you serious?

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posted June 07, 2012 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does it sound like a joke?

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posted June 07, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
topic is single most heart felt...

yes, that does Sound like a joke?

Single most heart felt, well,
it should be something uber important!

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posted June 07, 2012 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Jewish, so I love Israel with all my heart and soul.

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posted June 07, 2012 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel

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in 2011 only 2.1% were Christian
in Israel..

] As of 1999[update], 65% of Israeli Jews believe in God,...

so, 35% do not believe in God. ...

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I am a Messianic Jew.I am Christian and Jewish. We are, perhaps, the strongest Jews, next to Orthodox. If anyone has sincere questions, go make a thread in Divine Diversities. I am here to answer sincere questions, from anyone.

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will wait to start a new string..
to give you time to work on
The Rapture!

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Thank you. I am here for didactic info, if someone cares for that. I am not going to change my mind on Bible things, so debate is silly, from my end.

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posted June 07, 2012 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well you have never answered my sincere questions, so i doubt your sincerity there. besides which, you must know, being jewish, that NOT all jews hold israel dear or consider it their homeland, ami. MANY jews think israel is a cover using the jews as an excuse for a foothold in the middle east. and i agree with pixie jane, obama is not so anti-israel.

as to calling the death camps in poland "polish" that may offend super sensitive souls, but in a way, that is what they were. death camps, in poland. do you think there were no collaborators among the polish population?? think again.

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