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Ami Anne
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posted June 18, 2012 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber and his ilk are bemoaning that Romney is not like McCain. Of course, they want a gift like McCain

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posted June 18, 2012 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep Ami.

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posted June 19, 2012 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
romney = empty suit = hand to sign grover norquist's agenda ... all openly admitted by everyone but "i'll stand by what i said, even though i just contradicted myself and don't remember what i said" romney. the man who likes to pretend he hasn't been running for president for about 20 years...

yes all we need is an EMPTY white house. won't that be grand?

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posted June 19, 2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ggod Points, Kat!

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posted June 19, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
romney = empty suit = hand to sign grover norquist's agenda ... all openly admitted by everyone but "i'll stand by what i said, even though i just contradicted myself and don't remember what i said" romney. the man who likes to pretend he hasn't been running for president for about 20 years...

yes all we need is an EMPTY suit. won't that be grand?



We HAVE an empty suit in the White House. Where you been?


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posted June 19, 2012 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
make up your mind, empty suit or socialist threat? too radical or just a puppet? no need to ask with romney. he is the possessor of enough digits to sign what is put in front of him norquist is looking for. he is, as jwhop admits freely, no conservative, nor is he anything else.

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posted June 19, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha, Daffy Duck would be a better president than the current failure in the White House.

At least Romney has executive experience in both the private and public sectors.

O'Bomber never ran so much as a lemonade stand before being acclaimed prez.

O'Bomber has made hash out of the economy, American jobs, energy policy, domestic policy, foreign policy, the US military, National Security, he's politically and financially corrupt and America wants a do-over in November.

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posted June 19, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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make up your mind, empty suit or socialist threat? too radical or just a puppet? no need to ask with romney. he is the possessor of enough digits to sign what is put in front of him norquist is looking for. he is, as jwhop admits freely, no conservative, nor is he anything else.


I made up my mind, Kat
Empty suit AND Socialist

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posted June 19, 2012 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can't have it both ways, ami. but i know how hard it is for you to make a decision of your own. never mind, jwhop is happy to speak for you and save you the effort of "thinking like a man". i do hope you two live close to each other so you can enjoy the sunset together.

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posted July 11, 2012 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/11/romney-to-make-pitch-to-black-voters-at-naacp/

this morning i heard rush's rundown on this appearance, where he claimed that romney got a "standing ovation" instead of a few claps and quite a lot of booing.

then he proceeded to diss the dems for sending biden to appear there (obama obviously should, he's the black one, right?) because obama is afraid the blacks are disappointed in him...

nevermind that romney addressed the crowd as a separate body from the rest of the country..."i'll do more for the african-american community than obama" and failed to notice that most people just want to be part of the AMERICAN community and not relegated to their own kind...

no, no racism except on the dark side of the street these days!

it is only the "leftists" who pull the race card, i guess that is why rush talks about it continually...

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IF YOU ARE GOING TO QUOTE ME USE MY WORDS, DON'T SUBSTITUTE YOUR OWN TRANSLATION.

this was NOT originally posted by me AS IT IS, just for the record:

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romney = empty suit = hand to sign grover norquist's agenda ... all openly admitted by everyone but "i'll stand by what i said, even though i just contradicted myself and don't remember what i said" romney. the man who likes to pretend he hasn't been running for president for about 20 years...
yes all we need is an EMPTY suit. won't that be grand?


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posted July 11, 2012 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does anyone else wonder if romney is actually going to get the nomination?

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posted July 11, 2012 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/11/romney-to-make-pitch-to-black-voters-at-naacp/

this morning i heard rush's rundown on this appearance, where he claimed that romney got a "standing ovation" instead of a few claps and quite a lot of booing.

then he proceeded to diss the dems for sending biden to appear there (obama obviously should, he's the black one, right?) because obama is afraid the blacks are disappointed in him...

nevermind that romney addressed the crowd as a separate body from the rest of the country..."i'll do more for the african-american community than obama" and failed to notice that most people just want to be part of the AMERICAN community and not relegated to their own kind...

no, no racism except on the dark side of the street these days!

it is only the "leftists" who pull the race card, i guess that is why rush talks about it continually...

oh, and note to other posters

IF YOU ARE GOING TO QUOTE ME USE MY WORDS, DON'T SUBSTITUTE YOUR OWN TRANSLATION.

this was NOT originally posted by me AS IT IS, just for the record:[b]

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See how smart Rush is. Now, get yourself to that radio and enroll in the EIB Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies

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posted July 11, 2012 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you consider the use of doublespeak smart, maybe. if you believe him honest, then he is just another white racist trying to pretend it's all "the blacks'" fault.

personally i don't consider him honest. his substitution of false names and insistence that the black community is as one body are calculated and transparent to anyone who has not given over their own mind.

today he is saying basically that only the stupid black community is in favour of obamacare, and that romney's calling them separate but inferior is a suave and clever political move.

which completely debunks his protestations that the rest of the country is completely free of racism.

i suppose there are enough snakes in the country to applaud his snake tactics. god knows his attempts to neutralize anyone left of the right end of the scale by caricature and lies seems to be popular here.

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posted July 12, 2012 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The real person who dissed the black community was the NAACP woman, the head of the NAACP woman's group. She said Romney should not come to the meeting talking about business ownership and savings accounts as these people i.e the NAACP audience did not have these things as issues. They were too busy trying to catch the bus and go from job to job.
What if Romney came in saying that? can you imagine what would have happened if Romney said something like that?

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posted July 13, 2012 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Romney's 'Free Stuff' Speech Is a New Low

POSTED: July 13, 9:51 AM ET


Wow. If you live long enough, you’ll see some truly gross things in politics, but Mitt Romney’s work this past week "courting black support" was enough to turn even the strongest stomach.

Romney really showed us something in his luridly self-congratulating N.A.A.C.P. gambit, followed by the awesomely disgusting "free stuff" post-mortem speech he delivered the next night in front of friendlier audiences. The twin appearances revealed the candidate to be not merely unlikable, and not merely a fatuous, unoriginal hack of politician, but also a genuinely repugnant human being, a grasping corporate hypocrite with so little feel for how to get along with people that he has to dream up elaborate schemes just to try to pander to the mob.


At first, it was hard to say what exactly Romney was thinking when he decided to address the N.A.A.C.P. He plunged into the speech with a creepy kamikaze smile and a rushed, weird (even for him) delivery, acting like someone proud of what a ballsily moronic dare he was attempting – like a high school kid mooning a squad car from the back of a school bus, or Peter McNeeley rushing face-first into the ring with Mike Tyson.

Now, it would have been one thing if Romney had put some real thought into this, if he had taken a day or two or three and really pondered the question of why 90% of black voters vote Democratic. That’s a serious question, and it would have been something if Romney had really attempted to bridge what has turned into a disturbingly ugly gap between most nonwhite Americans and political conservatives.

Without accepting blame or admitting guilt, he could have talked about the increasingly strident tone of the national debate over racially charged issues, and wondered aloud if politicians on both sides perhaps needed to find a new way to talk about these things without fearmongering, stereotyping, or trading accusations. He could have met the racial-tension issue head on, in other words, and simply declared it to be something that both parties need to work on. This was an opportunity to make history as a peacemaker, just by saying out loud the simple truth that white and nonwhite Americans, and Democrats and Republicans both, need to find more civilized ways to talk about their political concerns. If he had owned the problem, that would have been a big step forward, for all of us.

Of course, that’s expecting a lot. But even if he had just come up with a fresh, earnest new way to articulate the conservative argument, something beyond the usual sloganeering, that would have been really interesting.

But he didn’t. He came out with the same half-assed, platitude-filled stump speech he usually doles out at campaign stops, literally the same exact speech, only he added quotes from Frederick Douglass, Benjamin Hooks, and Dr. King. As he told a mostly white audience in Montana the next night: “I gave them the same speech I am giving you.” He seemed almost proud of the fact that he didn’t put any extra thought into what he was going to say in his first big address to black America. If some speeches feel like a verbal embrace, Romney’s felt like a stack of cardboard emptied from the bay of a dump truck.

So given that he didn’t say anything new in the speech besides what he always says – government is the enemy of all life forms, we can’t blame the rich, etc. – the true meaning of the speech had to be in the very fact that he gave it in the first place. So what was he trying to accomplish? Surely he didn’t think he was going to be getting converts by promising to repeal “Obamacare,” crush teachers’ unions, and “help those who need help.”

No, he delivered those lines like a man expecting, maybe even wanting to get booed. And sure enough, after the event, it was hard not to notice how gleefully Fox and Hannity and the like played and replayed the video of the Mittster gamely dying on the cross of racial outreach. The rhetorical theme on those outlets was something like, “This is what happens when you promote the cause of free enterprise and self-sufficiency in front of the N.A.A.C.P.!” As Charles Blow in the New York Times put it:


    The speech sounded like it was designed not for the audience in the room, but for those in Republican living rooms.

    It sounded as though he wanted to show force and fearlessness: “Look folks, I walked into hostile territory unafraid and unbowed.” This was his version of a Daniel in the lions’ den speech.

    Talk tough. Get heckled and booed for telling the truth to those who don’t want to hear it. Take the president down a couple of pegs in front of the most loyal segment of his supporters…


So Romney did that, and then the next night he went to Montana and he discussed the experience in front of a friendlier audience. And this is what he said:


    When I mentioned I am going to get rid of Obamacare they weren’t happy, I didn’t get the same response. That’s O.K, I want people to know what I stand for and if I don’t stand for what they want, go vote for someone else, that’s just fine…

    But I hope people understand this, your friends who like Obamacare, you remind them of this, if they want more stuff from government tell them to go vote for the other guy — more free stuff.


So now this is the message: I tried to reason with the blacks, I really did, but it turns out they just want a free lunch.

How’s that for bridging the racial divide? Time to wake up the Nobel committee in Oslo!

As far as free lunches go, we of course just witnessed the biggest government handout in history, one that Romney himself endorsed. Four and a half trillion dollars in bailout money already disbursed, trillions more still at risk in guarantees and loans, sixteen trillion dollars in emergency lending from the Federal Reserve, two trillion in quantitative easing, etc. etc. All of this money went to Romney’s pals in the Wall Street banks that for years helped Romney take over companies with mountains of borrowed cash. Now, after these banks crashed, executives at those same firms used those public funds to pay themselves massive salaries, which is exactly the opposite of “helping those who need help,” if you’re keeping score.

That set of facts alone made the “free stuff” speech shockingly offensive. But the problem isn’t just that Romney’s wrong, and a hypocrite, and cynically furthering dangerous and irresponsible stereotypes in order to advance some harebrained electoral ploy involving white conservative voters. What makes it gross is the way he did it.


Romney can’t even be mean with any honesty. Even when he’s pandering to viciousness, ignorance and racism, it comes across like a scaly calculation. A guy who feels like he has to take a dump on the N.A.A.C.P. in Houston in order to connect with frustrated white yahoos everywhere else is a guy who has absolutely no social instincts at all. Someone like Jesse Helms at least had a genuine emotional connection with his crazy-mean-stupid audiences. But Mitt Romney has to think his way to the lowest common denominator, which is somehow so much worse.

Most presidents have something under the hood – wit, warmth, approachability, something. Even the most liberal football fan could enjoy watching an NFL game with George Bush. And even a Klansman probably would have found some of LBJ’s jokes funny. The biggest office in the world requires someone who buzzes with enough personality to fill the job, and most of them have it.

But Romney doesn’t buzz with anything. His vision of humanity is just a million tons of meat floating around in a sea of base calculations. He’s like a teenager who stays up all night thinking of a way to impress the prom queen, and what he comes up with is kicking a kid in a wheelchair. Instincts like those are probably what made him a great leveraged buyout specialist, but in a public figure? Man, is he a disaster. It’s really incredible theater, watching the Republicans talk themselves into this guy.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/romneys-free-stuff-speech-is-a-new-low-20120713#ixzz20XFurGrA

Republicans better hope that they can actually buy this election, because things really don't look good for Romney.

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posted July 13, 2012 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You and I see things so diametrically opposed that we have little room for overlap.

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posted July 13, 2012 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And by that are you saying that you think Romney is doing a good job in this campaign? If you are, you clearly haven't been party to the news of late.

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posted July 16, 2012 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And by that are you saying that you think Romney is doing a good job in this campaign? If you are, you clearly haven't been party to the news of late.

Maybe you are such a non thinker( said without rancor or insult) because you listen to the mainstream news, AG.

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posted July 16, 2012 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good morning, Ami. There are better ways of getting me to talk than saying unsubstantiated opinion on both this thread as well as my thread. Both of your comments were nonsense as far as I'm concerned.

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posted July 16, 2012 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Good morning, Ami. There are better ways of getting me to talk than saying unsubstantiated opinion on both this thread as well as my thread. Both of your comments were nonsense as far as I'm concerned.


I told you I would even put my money where my mouth was by giving you a present for listening to Rush for 6 weeks.

AG, frankly I am depressed that someone who is as smart as you are can support O'Bomber. To me, you are the prototype of why this country is going down.


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posted July 18, 2012 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Romney wins, there is going to be much celebration.

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posted July 19, 2012 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about when he loses?

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posted July 19, 2012 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we shall see.

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posted July 19, 2012 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When Romney wins, there is going to be much celebration.

I have to tell you what scares me, Randall? Astrologers seem to think O
Bomber will win. I have not even looked at the transits, as I am not that good with them and I don't want to be depressed.
These astrologers are not biased, I don't think.
I think even Lonake said the charts looked like they would go for O'Bomber.

He would have to steal it, imo
Even if FL, they are trying to get illegals on the ballot.

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posted July 19, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology is subjective. Whomever is meant to win shall win.

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