posted June 20, 2012 11:56 AM            

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For those who say this was all manufactured by the "right," Obama just claimed Executive Privilege over request for documents. That's proof that it not only happened, but he is hiding something.

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Thank God, O Bomber can't hide everything. We still have freedom of speech, although he is trying to make himself a dictator. Praise God for some free thinking and courageous people!

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posted June 20, 2012 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Eric was claiming that Obama knew nothing about it, but clearly there is something incriminating in them Obama doesn't want made public; however, by claiming Executive Privilege, Obama is actually stating that these are his papers.

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Thank Goodness, it is coming out. I think it was meant to be that sooner or later, O'Bomber would be held accountable for SOMETHING!

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posted June 20, 2012 12:32 PM            

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Eric was claiming that Obama knew nothing about it, but clearly there is something incriminating in them Obama doesn't want made public; however, by claiming Executive Privilege, Obama is actually stating that these are his papers.

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There is nothing inherently true about this statement.

"Until now, everyone believed that the decisions regarding 'Fast and Furious' were confined to the Department of Justice. The White House decision to invoke executive privilege implies that White House officials were either involved in the 'Fast and Furious' operation or the cover-up that followed," said Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck.

"The Administration has always insisted that wasn't the case. Were they lying, or are they now bending the law to hide the truth?" Buck said in a statement emailed to reporters.

But that's not necessarily true. Holder, who wrote to Obama asking him to invoke executive privilege, made no mention of any involvement by the White House in "Fast and Furious," which was run out of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in Arizona. And an Obama administration official shared a list of "examples of assertions of executive privilege not involving presidential communications" dating back to former President Ronald Reagan's October 1981 decision to do so in connection to international Interior Department deliberations about the Mineral Lands Leasing Act.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-invokes-executive-privilege-holder-faces-contempt-vote-143710603.html

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posted June 20, 2012 06:55 PM            

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We shall see. The left was claiming Fast and Furious never happened at all and some here even asserting that FOX News made it up. It's clear now that it did happen, and personally, I think it's a shame that the families of the slain agents are not given closure...and justice.

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posted June 20, 2012 09:29 PM            

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one slain agent i believe. and what does this have to do with "closure"?

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Th people responsible for his slaying, allegedly Holder and HIGHER, should be made to pay.

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posted June 21, 2012 02:39 PM            

the republicans went after clinton for the only thing they could pin on him...which admittedly had NOTHING to do with his presidency, managed to out him for lying about his extramarital affairs! how extraordinary of him...

now they are trying to do the same to obama and his staff.

posted June 21, 2012 03:14 PM            

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The idea is that it should be investigated. Obama claiming Executive Privilege warrants further investigation. If there were nothing incriminating in the papers, why would he care?

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This move on O'Bombers part was dumb. Where is slick Willy when you need him? Slick Willy would never have done a dumb move like this. Slick Willy lied until the very end

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posted June 24, 2012 03:41 PM            

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I guess King Obama can do no wrong.

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No wrong. Perish the thought

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posted June 24, 2012 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The idea is that it should be investigated. Obama claiming Executive Privilege warrants further investigation. If there were nothing incriminating in the papers, why would he care?

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I`m leaving the option open as it could be a protective matter regarding other individuals lives at stake.

Unless there is a third option I am missing?

posted September 19, 2012 03:05 PM            

By PETE YOST | Associated Press – 3 mins 30 secs ago..

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department's internal watchdog on Wednesday faulted the agency for misguided strategies, errors in judgment and management failures during a bungled gun-trafficking probe in Arizona that resulted in hundreds of weapons turning up at crime scenes in the U.S. and Mexico.

Two senior officials left the department, one by resignation and one by retirement, upon release of the report.

In a 471-page report, Inspector General Michael Horowitz referred more than a dozen people for possible department disciplinary action for their roles in Operation Fast and Furious and a separate, earlier probe known as Wide Receiver, undertaken during the George W. Bush administration. The report did not criticize Attorney General Eric Holder, but said lower-level officials should have briefed him about the investigation much earlier.

The report found no evidence that Holder was informed about the Fast and Furious operation before Jan. 31, 2011, or that the attorney general was told about the much-disputed gun-walking tactic employed by the department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The inspector general found fault with the work of the senior ATF leadership, the ATF staff and U.S. attorney's office in Phoenix and senior officials of Justice's criminal division in Washington. He also said that poor internal information-gathering and drafting at Justice and ATF caused the department to initially misinform Congress about Fast and Furious.

One of those criticized in the report, former ATF acting director Kenneth Melson, who headed that office during the Fast and Furious investigation, retired upon release of the report.

"Melson made too many assumptions about the case," the report stated. "Melson should have asked basic questions about the investigation, including how public safety was being protected."

Another of those criticized, Justice Department career attorney Jason Weinstein, resigned. Weinstein was a deputy assistant attorney general in Justice's criminal division in Washington.

"Weinstein was the most senior person in the department in April and May 2010 who was in a position to identify the similarity between the inappropriate tactics used in Operations Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious," the report said.