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amelia28
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posted July 02, 2012 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(NaturalNews) Now that Obamacare has been ruled a tax by the U.S. Supreme Court, reality is starting to sink in for all those who emotionally supported it. Promoted as a way to provide either free health care or low-cost health care to the masses, the sobering reality is that under Obamacare, health insurance prices keep rising, not falling. That's no surprise, of course, since the Obamacare legislation was practically written by the health insurance companies, and they sure didn't put their weight behind a sweeping new law that would earn them less profit.

In an era when the so-called "99%" are sick and tired of being exploited by the one percent who control everything, they just handed their medical futures over to precisely the one percent who skillfully monopolize the conventional health care system!

Obamacare is, at every level, a huge victory for the one percent.

A costly new tax on the middle class
By the year 2016, the Obamacare "penalty" tax will reach roughly $2,000 per year for a two-person household. According to Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal, 75% of the financial burden of Obamacare's new taxes will fall onto Americans making less than $120,000 a year (http://www.humanevents.com/2012/06/30/wsj-chief-economist-75-of-obama...). The great Middle Class, in other words, will bear this new tax more than anyone else.

In effect, what has really happened here is a great swindle: Obama got the middle class to support his legislation by promising it was NOT a tax, and by promising it would LOWER health insurance costs. In reality, however, it RAISES health insurance costs, it IS a tax, and the majority of that tax burden falls squarely on the very same middle-class voters who put Obama into office under false pretenses. That's a swindle, by any definition.

Not surprisingly, this realization doesn't sit well with many middle class taxpayers. While the original emotional appeal of Obamacare was nicely packaged and seductively marketed to the masses, the sobering, post-honeymoon reality slaps us all in the face like a wet fish: Smack! This thing is another huge tax increase on the working class! And on top of that, it gives the IRS scary new powers to pry into our private finances. How did you all think compliance with Obamacare was going to be enforced, anyway? It's going to empower the IRS with even more agents!

Government monopoly for Big Pharma
Even worse than the trillions in new taxes and the IRS spy grid that's now being set up to monitor compliance with Obamacare, there's also the sobering fact that Obamacare never even attempted to give consumers a free choice in their health care providers. There's no coverage of naturopathic medicine, herbal medicine, acupuncture or nutritional therapies. The entire law is written around -- and for -- Big Pharma and the conventional "sick care" industry that's best described as a "medical racket."

Thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court, we don't even have a chance to opt out of this corrupt, failed system of patented chemical medications and overpriced surgical procedures. Now, we are forced to hand over our hard-earned money to the very same medical system that we already know is responsible for killing over 750,000 Americans a year. It's called "iatrogenic death," and it means death by health care.

So not only are we being chemically abused and medically enslaved in America, we are now financially forced to pay for the privilege of being raked over the coals by the medical establishment. It makes you wonder... where is the "care" in Obamacare?

But wait, there's more! From this position of being coerced by the government to pay for a system of medicine you don't even want, it's not much of a leap to being coerced to undergo medical procedures you don't want, either.

How Obamacare will lead to mandatory vaccinations for everyone
Forced vaccinations -- for adults! -- are on the way, friends. And here's why: Once everybody is "in the system" of mandatory health care, we will begin to hear arguments like this:

"Anyone who refuses to get vaccinated against influenza is thereby at risk of being an influenza carrier and infecting other people, thus increasing health care costs for us all. To save money, government must force everyone to get vaccinated!"

It's a false argument, of course, but it will be used to literally line people up at courthouses (with the threat of arrest and jail time) and force them all to be vaccinated against their will.

The same false logic can be used to force people to undergo chemotherapy, take AIDS drugs, undergo coronary bypass surgery or be subjected to almost any medical procedure deemed "necessary" by the government. In the realm of mental health and psychiatry, this opens up a Pandora's Box of exploitation of patients for the purpose of raking in record profits for the criminally-operated psychiatric drug industry.

Such is the inevitable abuse of monopolistic market practices enforced by a corrupt government that serves the interests of its corporate masters: Once the sick care industry has this monopoly and can force everyone to participate, they will exploit that advantage to its fullest profiteering capacity.

Remember: It is the dream of every corporation to dominate the world. Obamacare just gave Big Pharma and the other sick care giants huge monopolistic cheats to pursue precisely that goal.

Sober up, America
In a time when consumers are increasingly demanding transparency, free choice and the ability to shop around for competitive bargains, Obamacare codifies secrecy, mandatory compliance and monopolistic practices.

Maybe it's time to sober up and take an honest look at what Obamacare really is instead of what Obama promised it would be. People bought into the dream, but what they actually received was a monumental swindle.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036361_Obamacare_tax_swindle.html#ixzz1zVYDQmrD

*The bill is 2700 pages long and this article just gives you a feel to the problems with it.

I recommend everyone pushes for state nullification of Obamacare in their states like many states did with the Real ID card.*

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Ami Anne
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posted July 02, 2012 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good work, Amelia, as always

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Randall
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posted July 02, 2012 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good info. There is a religious exemption for opting out of this mess, so there will never be a federal law requiring vaccines, but most people will comply.

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posted July 02, 2012 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The article certainly has its biases, doesn't it? In Massachusetts, where this was originally rolled out only 2% saw their taxes increase. So much of this article is demonizing the healthcare system we've known. Why is repealing such an attractive option if the healthcare we've had is so unattractive? Kind of an illogical stance, isn't it? And you can pick your insurance option from the many. It's not that controlled.

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posted July 03, 2012 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
schools pressure parents with vaccines - mercilessly. but it is always the parents' choice. apparently the most refusal of vaccination occurs in the most educated populations.

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posted July 03, 2012 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no pressure when you know the law. I can shut up any school administrator in about five seconds.

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posted July 04, 2012 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most difficulties arise when the school administrator doesn't know the laws - a surprisingly common situation. I'm familiar with many examples within my small state where lawyers became necessary, children were suspended from school, many meetings with the school board, etc. and I live in a state which allows religious exemptions. Presently there are two states which allow for a medical exemption only. More will follow. The AAP and vax manufacturers have made this a top priority.

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posted July 04, 2012 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, bear in mind the recent precedent set in CA where children 12 and under may receive the highly controversial HPV vaccine at school without parental knowledge or consent.

Bypass the parents and their pesky exemptions.

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posted July 04, 2012 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't been to a doctor in over ten years...and even then, it was just to get an antibiotic for a strep throat infection that wouldn't go away. I paid $100 at a clinic and was on my way. ...The times when I've had health insurance through a job, I never once used it. ...I wasn't ill, so why would I?

Now I haven't had insurance in at least eight years. Any minor health problems I've had have worked themselves out.

I've never gone to an emergency room on the taxpayer's dime. ...I don't know the specifics of this ruling---will I be forced to pay for insurance I'll never use? I could see possibly a small cost for some catastrophic coverage or something...but otherwise this feels like an incredible acknowledgment of the horrible direction things are turning towards.

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posted July 04, 2012 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jovian:
I haven't been to a doctor in over ten years...and even then, it was just to get an antibiotic for a strep throat infection that wouldn't go away. I paid $100 at a clinic and was on my way. ...The times when I've had health insurance through a job, I never once used it. ...I wasn't ill, so why would I?

Now I haven't had insurance in at least eight years. Any minor health problems I've had have worked themselves out.

I've never gone to an emergency room on the taxpayer's dime. ...I don't know the specifics of this ruling---will I be forced to pay for insurance I'll never use? I could see possibly a small cost for some catastrophic coverage or something...but otherwise this feels like an incredible acknowledgment of the horrible direction things are turning towards.


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posted July 04, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, if you live in Mississippi or West Virginia you're SOL.

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posted July 05, 2012 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
will I be forced to pay for insurance I'll never use?

Your health is not under your control. Ever. You could get hit by anything, and receive anything from a minor hurt to a devastating hurt. There's no way to predict what your future health state will be.

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posted July 05, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The medical/pharmacuetical industy is gearing up. It won't be Mississippi and W Virginia alone for long. Patents on many of their biggest money makers are running out. There is simply too much money at stake. But that's capitalism run amok for ya
http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2012/04/09/prsa0409.htm

which leads me to AG's observation. It's true. No amount of prevention can guareente a life free from illness or accident. How we define "prevention" and how I respond to a health crisis remain "under my control", no? Well, for the time being. Usually. My doctor is ordering me to schedule a mammogram. I've refused. I've researched and investigated and I don't believe the procedure is in my best interest. Let's say I find myself with a case of breast cancer. Chances are I will refuse chemo, a response the insurance company will happily pay for. Chances are the insurances company won't pay for a vit C iv. Therefore, "will I be forced to pay for insurance I'll never use" isn't an entirely unreasonable question. Forcing citizens (read: consumers) to become dues paying members of a profit driven heathcare system they do not wish to partake of is an issue for some of us.

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posted July 05, 2012 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well the profit is being limited and patient lobbying has made insured chiropractic, acupuncture and in many places massage part of the "healthcare industry" over the years. these can be insured, though many practitioners don't honour the very limited/regulated coverage available...

@jovian, i don't know how old you are but sh*t happens. none of us, or very few of us, are aware enough to prevent all physical eventualities.

i haven't had insurance since i left england 18 years ago, where i paid for it through my tax bill. there, EVERYTHING was covered, AND private insurance available if you wanted to circumvent any waiting lists - we have those here too.

just recently i went to the doctor for the first time in 20 years due to excruciating pain. the ER was the only place available. now i have to pay $1100 for what was basically no service as far as i am concerned.

do you prefer this to EVERYONE chipping in so medicine WHEN NEEDED does not cost the earth?

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posted July 05, 2012 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
apparently florida is not planning on implementing obamacare.

so you floridians got nothing to worry about, right? and everyone against it can just move to florida. they are probably counting on your consumer dollars!

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posted July 05, 2012 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard Jindal also say he wasn't going to set up the insurance exchanges.

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