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posted July 03, 2012 09:57 PM
  
then will you believe me?That it's all rigged? I think he WILL "win" again & I have said this for years, but by that time, no one will question it anyway. Enough will be brainwashed, through MSM enough to think that it was entirely possible and likely and carry on. We shall see. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted July 03, 2012 10:17 PM
Believe what? That it's rigged by Obama? No, I won't. Now if you want to say the entire system has been subverted to limit our choices to corporate puppets (effectively giving the American people a choice only on issues that don't concern the elites, and where choosing Democrat or Republican is essentially asking if we want vanilla or chocolate toppings on our dung sandwich and presenting not only a false choice to give us the illusion of freedom but meant to polarize and separate us to better conquer and control us all on both sides) then yeah, but I already believe that..and will believe it if Romney wins, too. Actually, if they both lose I'll still believe it, I'll just think that the actual powers behind the throne (what I call America's nomenklatura within the CFR) screwed up.  IP: Logged |
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posted July 03, 2012 10:34 PM
No, not BY him (we all know he has no real power). quote:
Now if you want to say
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the entire system has been subverted to limit our choices to corporate puppets (effectively giving the American people a choice only on issues that don't concern the elites, and where choosing Democrat or Republican is essentially asking if we want vanilla or chocolate toppings on our dung sandwich and presenting not only a false choice to give us the illusion of freedom but meant to polarize and separate us to better conquer and control us all on both sides) then yeah, but I already believe that..and will believe it if Romney wins, too.Actually, if they both lose I'll still believe it, I'll just think that the actual powers behind the throne (what I call America's nomenklatura within the CFR) screwed up.
 Yes, that's exactly it. Thank you.  ....."our dung sandwich". ..... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 04, 2012 03:56 PM
Well, why couldn't Obomber and his ilk steal the Wisconsin election, then?------------------
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posted July 04, 2012 08:10 PM
To be honest, I'm not sure why anyone pays much attention to any of this bs (politics) anymore. They arent worth our time, we know that. Theyre all a bunch of lying sociopaths yet we still play into the whole game and argue about it all. Why even waste our energy on it? It's time for major change. Change that we probably wont even begin to see for another few hundred years.IP: Logged |
shura
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posted July 05, 2012 02:03 PM
this ^Superbowl, World Series, World Cup, Oscars, American Idol, Presidential elections blah blah all the same essentially. Amusement. Gives people something to talk about, I suppose. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted July 05, 2012 03:10 PM
i agree with shura. the whole election night telethon is more horse race than anything else. focussing on who is president and much of what he does ignores the fact that only congress can appropriate/spend money; write laws and pass the budget. this is not a monarchy, folks! surprise surprise. so whether you think obama or romney is good or bad if you don't try to find good congresspeople to put in washington it will make little difference. but there are willing and unwilling puppets. what is unusual about this election is that it may be the first time ever (i am willing to be corrected here) that the lobbyists have outright declared that they want to a) buy congress and b) elect a president who is BLATANTLY irrelevant except to sign what congress hands him. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted July 05, 2012 03:12 PM
and keep in mind that there has NEVER been a government, including ours which stated at the outset that only FREE men (ie property holders and those who had finished their indentures or been freed by their masters) were entitled to the rights written into the constitution, that was created for the LITTLE PEOPLE (ie most of us). natives, slaves, servants and immigrants mostly did not count, full stop.that is why we are reminded from time to time that this is a REPUBLIC not a DEMOCRACY. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted July 05, 2012 03:39 PM
the republic has fallen, kat. IP: Logged |
SpooL
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posted July 07, 2012 03:57 AM
At this point It doesn't matter who gets elected. The US is doomed, doomed!!!!!!---------------------------------------
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Lonake
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posted July 07, 2012 04:29 AM
You're not too far off.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 07, 2012 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by SpooL:
At this point It doesn't matter who gets elected. The US is doomed, doomed!!!!!!
Why do you say that, Spool?
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katatonic
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posted July 07, 2012 01:38 PM
we are over-extended. every single power that has attempted to take over the known world has died of overextension. but the might-makes-right folk, even those who consider dominion a "necessary evil" to protect the underdogs, don't get that the $300million being spent weekly in afghanistan could save our bankrupt states and recreate the prosperity america enjoyed when she was only interested in minding her OWN business and keeping others from taking her over..IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 07, 2012 04:51 PM
They don't change on their own. They need the bottom to fall out or out and out violence. This country is pretty peaceful overall, compared to Syria for example, so I'm betting on the former.
What did happen was that the U.S. was forced to cut its overall budget, and last yr it was thought that the defense spending will go down starting next yr, bearing half of that burden. Not much of a change, and it's possible that the burden on the defense can be curtailed depending on how congress acts, but it's something. It will put people out of work in many sectors but that's the price this country has to pay.
We're past the beginning of the end, all we can do is watch as it self-destructs and plan well for our futures in this rocky ride if we haven't already, rest easy if we have, and help others as best we can.If you want a hint consider the fact that t.Uranus will oppose n.Saturn, and t.Pluto will oppose n.Sun in spring of 2014. The guy who LOSES this election, is the WINNER. Why anyone would want to be the figurehead for what's to come is beyond me. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted July 07, 2012 05:19 PM
some people are just gluttons for "duty" and obama being an ox MAY be one of those. or maybe just power-hungry as many think. i am reserving judgment as i've said, but i often speculate that the republicans put mccain and palin up IN ORDER TO LOSE so obama would have to bear the anger of the population...it often looks that way!!my observation of history is that true evil and greed always implode, not of their own volition, but sabotaged FROM WITHIN, as the nazi party was by the "white rose" within it; or just collapsing in on themselves due to overreach and insufficient resources/power to keep it up(pun intended!) as for this country, it has had several very violent overturns. we are entering our pluto return and with all the other antagonistic energy, i wouldn't rule out a violent debacle. resourcefulness will be everything in that case and sometimes not enough. luck, or grace, will also be a big part of the equation. it may happen peacefully and i hope so...
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Lonake
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posted July 07, 2012 05:33 PM
My thinking on adding Palin was actually that it would get more votes from women since Hilary was increasingly out of the picture for a nomination (for what reasons I don't currently recall), so effectively a bid to steal. But that plan backfired. Only my view on things of course.Yes I agree, I see self-destruction headed their way.
But regarding violence, I think it would take a major 'tipping point' as it were, so I don't believe we're there just yet. Yes to people acting alone, or in a small group, possibly. But nothing sizable for now. IP: Logged |
SpooL
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posted July 08, 2012 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Why do you say that, Spool?
North America as a whole is starting to experiencing the same problems typically associated with developing countries. Evey politician that gets elected in the US just adds more debt trying to solve the other guys mistakes. I doubt Americans are willing to a)take big and I mean big reductions in services or b)pay higher taxes. Lets say I make $10 off taxes but my costs are $15. I can only reduce my costs to $11, or I can completely change my lifestyle and have costs at $5. Or pay higher taxes. Neither will happen in the US. --------------------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 08, 2012 06:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SpooL:
North America as a whole is starting to experiencing the same problems typically associated with developing countries.Evey politician that gets elected in the US just adds more debt trying to solve the other guys mistakes. I doubt Americans are willing to a)take big and I mean big reductions in services or b)pay higher taxes. Lets say I make $10 off taxes but my costs are $15. I can only reduce my costs to $11, or I can completely change my lifestyle and have costs at $5. Or pay higher taxes. Neither will happen in the US.
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