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Ami Anne
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posted August 01, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chik-Fil-A is being swarmed as people tell their hearts, in the only way they can.

Even several Wendy's have said "We stand with Chik-Fil-A"
I should get my butt off this chair and go to mine

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posted August 01, 2012 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why is that?

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posted August 01, 2012 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because, Ram Emanuel dissed it because the owner is a Bible believer and does not believe in gay marriage.

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posted August 01, 2012 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I think Ram called for a boycott. What happened to freedom of religion. Ohh, I forgot. It doesn't apply to Christians

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posted August 01, 2012 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes they are being swarmed, by people supporting them, and dissing them. this is the perfect PR storm. however i think it may currently be more trouble than profit for the actual stores!

apparently one crackpot blogger has come out blaming obama for the fact that chick-fil-a's pr man had a heart attack. ironic, since obama's campaign team is on record as having eaten at at least one of their outlets.

i personally don't know why anyone would try to use government against these people. nor would i eat a poisonburger just to show i like someone's social views!

but i think it is cheap - and hateful - to use gay marriage as a publicity stunt.

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posted August 01, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, since when in America can government shut down businesses or refuse to issue business licenses or building permits based on religious beliefs.

Only since the worst president in US history bagan infesting the White House and his butt sucking Socialist pals think they can get away with violating the First Amendment Rights of citizens.

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they are not obama, jwhop. and this is not his doing much as you would like to make it so.

they are mayors - and mayors sometimes like to think they are kings. chicago's mayors have historically acted like kings, emmanuel is little different in that respect! he is not working for the white house anymore.

however using "christian" people's self-righteous antipathy towards gays as a PR platform is also going very low.

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posted August 01, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Yeah, since when in America can government shut down businesses or refuse to issue business licenses or building permits based on religious beliefs.

Only since the worst president in US history bagan infesting the White House and his butt sucking Socialist pals think they can get away with violating the First Amendment Rights of citizens.



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posted August 01, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are none as blind as they who won't see.

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posted August 01, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber had the exact same position on gay marriage as the Chik-Fil-A CEO...until he got all political on the issue and decided he needed the gay vote in November.

Even before that, O'Bomber refused to have the Defense of Marriage Act...passed by Congress and signed into law enforced.

That makes O'Bomber an oath breaker on yet another issue. "I will faithfully execute the laws of the United States."

This is not a winning issue for O'Bomber and demoscats. In every state where gay marriage was put on the ballot for a vote by the peeps...IT WAS DEFEATED...even in screw-loose California.

It's long past time for citizens to start suing public officials who violate their Constitutional Rights for monetary damages. Make it hurt. Bankrupt them in civil court actions and if public officials act under "Color of Law" to oppress citizens, then file criminal charges for "Official Oppression" against them and let a jury decide whether they get to continue to walk around free.

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posted August 01, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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O'Bomber had the exact same position on gay marriage as the Chik-Fil-A CEO...until he got all political on the issue and decided he needed the gay vote in November.

Even before that, O'Bomber refused to have the Defense of Marriage Act...passed by Congress and signed into law enforced.

That makes O'Bomber an oath breaker on yet another issue. "I will faithfully execute the laws of the United States.

This is not a winning issue for O'Bomber and demoscats. In every state where gay marriage was put on the ballot for a vote by the peeps...IT WAS DEFEATED...even in screw-loose California.

It's long past time for citizens to start suing public officials who violate their Constitutional Rights for monetary damages. Make it hurt. Bankrupt them in civil court actions and if public officials act under "Color of Law" to oppress citizens, then file criminal charges for "Official Oppression" against them and let a jury decide whether they get to continue to walk around free.



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posted August 01, 2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
National Organization for Marriage

Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Dear [my friend],

It's going to be huge. Perhaps the busiest day in Chick-fil-A history.

If you haven't done so already, find a local Chick-fil-A restaurant so you can get out there today and participate in this historic event!

Today's "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" has become a national sensation since Governor Mike Huckabee began the grassroots campaign on his radio program two weeks ago. The efforts of politicians to intimidate Chick-fil-A restaurants in Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco and Washington, DC have only provoked more of a response from the people, with now more than half-a-million Americans pledging to pay their thanks to the Cathys today (in exchange for some great food)!

As the Rev. Billy Graham said last week: "I want to express my support for my good friends Truett Cathy and his son Dan Cathy, and for their strong stand for the Christian faith. . . . As the son of a dairy farmer who milked many a cow, I plan to 'Eat Mor Chikin' and show my support by visiting Chick-fil-A next Wednesday."

Join Rev. Billy Graham, Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Tim Pawlenty, Bob McDonnell and millions of your fellow Americans in supporting the Cathy family today!

As I told Governor Mike Huckabee on his radio show last week, we are thrilled to help spread the word about this terrific event. But there are two more things I am asking you to do:

  • The media will probably ignore today's event—so help us by being our team of reporters across the nation. Send your pictures and stories to NOMCF@nationformarriage.org and we'll get the word out.


  • Visit www.ThankChickfilA.com to send a note of thanks to the Cathy family for their courage in standing for the true meaning of marriage, for religious freedom and free speech.


Get out there and show your support today, and make sure the Cathys know how much you honor their heroism—while at the same time making clear to the gay marriage bullies that those who believe in God's truth about marriage are strong and united.

Faithfully,


Brian S. Brown
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posted August 01, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chik-Fil-a turn out bodes well for getting rid of O'Bomber.

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posted August 02, 2012 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day brings out supporters, protesters

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posted August 02, 2012 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even before that, O'Bomber refused to have the Defense of Marriage Act...passed by Congress and signed into law enforced
(and let's not forget that the House has been doing it's level best to prevent enactment of most of the other laws recently passed in both houses)

and his reason, that the federal government has no business legislating on people's personal affairs like this. how does it affect YOUR marriage if gay people have EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW?

i would have thought the SMALL GOVT people would agree that marriage is NOT a government issue. it is a personal one.

i also consider it supremely hypocritical of jwhop to rale about "not upholding the law" when all he wants is to see the HEALTHCARE REFORM LAW repealed...even though it has been passed by ALL THREE BRANCHES of the government.

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posted August 02, 2012 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
[b]Even before that, O'Bomber refused to have the Defense of Marriage Act...passed by Congress and signed into law enforced
(and let's not forget that the House has been doing it's level best to prevent enactment of most of the other laws recently passed in both houses)

and his reason, that the federal government has no business legislating on people's personal affairs like this. how does it affect YOUR marriage if gay people have EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW?

i would have thought the SMALL GOVT people would agree that marriage is NOT a government issue. it is a personal one.

i also consider it supremely hypocritical of jwhop to rale about "not upholding the law" when all he wants is to see the HEALTHCARE REFORM LAW repealed...even though it has been passed by ALL THREE BRANCHES of the government.[/B]



Gay marriage effects every single person in society as it will destroy the fabric of society. I have not one thing against a gay person. I have a friend who is gay and I FORGET he is gay until he reminds me. He is himself. I don't care about gay/straight, race or religion. I see people, one person at a time.

having said that, the foundation of a stable society is the nuclear family. This must be preserved. Perhaps, there could be a form of domestic partnership, but not marriage.


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you PRETEND not to notice the difference.

gay marriages are nuclear families. where does that leave your silly little argument? i know THREE gay families with kids who are doing a better job of raising them than many hetero couples i know.

one of those couples actually managed to get married in the period before prop 8 was passed in california. the others are forced to live in "civil unions" that deny them many of the rights reserved for spouses.

the anti-gay-marriage movement wants to DENY nuclear marriage to gays and therefore increase the likelihood that they will suffer, and the REST OF US ALONG WITH THEM.

like many prejudiced people, you can point to an individual from a group you discriminate against as EVIDENCE that you are NOT prejudiced. "some of my best friends are black/gay/martian"...this is so classic a form of denial i wonder you don't see it even in yourself?

perhaps you should cast the beam from thine own eye, ami? how wonderful and nurturing was your own hetero marriage?

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posted August 02, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"and let's not forget that the House has been doing it's level best to prevent enactment of most of the other laws recently passed in both houses"...katatonic

Another ususal suspect gets it wrong. The House is not trying to prevent MOST of the legislation passed by both houses from being enacted. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

The Republican controlled House is on the side of the people of the United States attempting to prevent O'BomberCare from being implemented and in fact, moving to repeal the entire pile of horsecrap.

It's the US Senate...led by demoscats..who else, which is bottling up all the legislation..passed by the House...which would put Americans back to work, cut federal spending to sane levels, balance the US budget and put a cap on federal spending.

On each of those issues, the majority of voters in America are with Conservative Republicans and not with Socialist demoscats. These are the issues on the front burners for most voters.

Which is the reason demoscats are running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to change the subject. It's not working!

Oh and wait until you see the polls on Marxists attempting to prevent businesses from opening locations in cities led by Socialist mayors who disagree with their religious beliefs. Just stand by and wait for it.

Oh and wait until you see the polls on the Marxist O'Bomber's attempts to compel religious institutions to violate the tenets of their religion...violation of their 1st Amendment rights...and provide abortion and birth control in their insurance policies. Just stand by and wait for it.

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posted August 02, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat
I am not talking on a micro level here
One gay family could be Beaver Cleaver
A hetero family could be the Simpsons. I am talking about a societal level.
You need to take da spoke outta yo eye so yo can see your neighbor.

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i am not talking micro either ami. there is no reason why gay families cannot uphold the fabric of society just as well as hetero ones. in fact, the hetero family was floundering long before gayness became a major issue...it might even be cited as one of the motivations for gays coming out!

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Anyone who supports treating gays as 2nd class citizens, denying cherished loved ones rights to the dying in the hospital (some because of no health coverage as a gay partner is not recognized as a spouse or even because of a hate crime, that is dying because of Christian bigotry), and countless other things gay couples have to contend with because of bigotry then that person is not following the Golden Rule of treating others as they themselves want to be treated, nor are they compassionate people (at least not when it's inconvenient for them to be), and yes, they have a problem with gay people and are homophobic (thinking gay marriage will destroy society is a really big fear, especially when other countries seem to do ok with it).

Btw, many US states (including some of the most antigay ones) allow first cousins to not only marry but to have children. If that doesn't destroy the fabric of society then I don't know what will.

And for Bible thumpers, the only reason allowable for divorce (according to Jesus himself) is if the woman cheats. The Christian god doesn't recognize any other divorce as valid and any who have sex outside of the marriage that still exists in God's eyes (including to a new spouse in the eyes of society) is an adulterer living in sin, just as guilty as loving someone of the same gender. But there are few Christians against gay marriage who want to shove that piece of the Bible down our throats. I wonder why (and where does CFA stand on this issue)?

ETA: I don't care if people don't approve of homosexuality and if he simply stated his opinion I would shrug it off. However, trying to harm innocent people because you don't like them is another matter entirely. CFA won't be getting any of my money if they're gonna use it to harm innocents, and it's a shame and disgrace that others can be so callous--and yet think themselves morally superior for violating the Golden Rule so badly.

Btw, being against gay marriage is the least that CFA has done. If he's also donated money to those antigay American Christian groups that have also sponsored and helped get "kill the gays" bills passed in Africa (showing what they ultimately want to happen in America as well) then there's no getting around that CFA is evil incarnate, as are those who feel good about giving their money for such vile causes.

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lol, P.J....

no ami, gay marriage will only take stigma away from gays and their kids, it won't hurt "straight" folk one iota.

as i said near the top of the page, i don't think any government has the right to ban licenses on this issue, but friday apparently gays will be visiting chik fil a's around the country to exercise THEIR freedom of association and expression...i wonder what the reaction will be from mr chik fil a??

it actually seems to me that the radio folk who made a major meal of this should also get a royalty check from the company for all the extra business, and that a mountain has been created out of a molehill by the despotic mayors and the christian right together.

my only problem with mr chik fil a is that he is being called a martyr..for giving money to a group practicing hatred and trying to deny equal rights to some perfectly HUMAN citizens.

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my only problem with mr chik fil a is that he is being called a martyr..for giving money to a group practicing hatred and trying to deny equal rights to some perfectly HUMAN citizens.

Reminded me of this:

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posted August 02, 2012 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol, P.J....

no ami, gay marriage will only take stigma away from gays and their kids, it won't hurt "straight" folk one iota.

as i said near the top of the page, i don't think any government has the right to ban licenses on this issue, but friday apparently gays will be visiting chik fil a's around the country to exercise THEIR freedom of association and expression...i wonder what the reaction will be from mr chik fil a??

it actually seems to me that the radio folk who made a major meal of this should also get a royalty check from the company for all the extra business, and that a mountain has been created out of a molehill by the despotic mayors and the christian right together.

my only problem with mr chik fil a is that he is being called a martyr..for giving money to a group practicing hatred and trying to deny equal rights to some perfectly HUMAN citizens.


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