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PixieJane
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posted August 05, 2012 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By MSM I mean the Main Stream Media (which includes FOX, btw) in the United States.

My email friend in Australia who recently took an interest in American politics asked me about this. He said Romney is a laughing stock in Australia and those he corresponds with in Europe say similar things, like that Romney is an even embarrassment for Americans than Bush. Since he's aware America tends to get "filtered" news he was wondering if our media was having a field day over here with it, too.

Thing is I haven't heard much. It gets mentioned, but as far as I know it's only on sites and programs that focus on such things and even then they don't seem to be "having a field day" with it (though it wouldn't surprise me if Jon Stewart did, but he doesn't really count). But I watch very little MSM anymore so I don't know what CNN (in the USA only, their stations in other countries tend to report things differently), MSNBC, FOX, etc have been saying. So does anyone know if these stations in the US have been poking fun at Romney as well or even doing more than briefly mentioning it?

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posted August 06, 2012 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was reading something on yahoo where in the U.K. they refer to his gaffes as romneyshambles. He's offended David Cameron, who not a lot of British are fund of, and made him look great in his comment about whether London was ready for the Olympics. I didn't like Cameron when I lived in the U.K., but his retort was golden.

It's a shame that we aren't hearing much in the mainstream media. Guess it's not dramatic enough.

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posted August 06, 2012 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Romney virtually owns a huge chunk of the media: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30260.htm

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posted August 06, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, all this blither, blather, bloviation and bullshiiit about Romney's alleged gaffes...BUT, I notice there wasn't even one example of Romney's "alleged gaffes" provided.

Now, I could lay out in gruesome Technicolor and Surround Sound the gaffes of the alleged smartest president in the history of the United States...O'Bomber.

Hark, I hear one now!

If you own a business...YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT...SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT
O'Bomber to his freeloading..something for nothing..supporters in Virginia..about the real productive business owners in America.

It's an even bigger gaffe when you realize O'Bomber never "built" anything in his life and couldn't run a lemonade stand.

Oh, and speaking of gaffes which caught the attention of Europeans...the British were really pis$ed when Barack Hussein O'Bomber bundled up the bust of Winston Churchill in the White House and had it delivered to the British Embassy...at the beginning of his White House infestation.

And, imagine the surprise of Austrians when Barack Hussein O'Bomber said they speak Austrian. All these years, Austrians thought they converse and write in GERMAN.

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posted August 06, 2012 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ This is why GU2 is like a small, dysfunctional family. Too many incendiary remarks, like:

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Wow, all this blither, blather, bloviation and bullshiiit about Romney's alleged gaffes...BUT, I notice there wasn't even one example of Romney's "alleged gaffes" provided.

PixieJane and I are both highly critical of Obama and don't need to be told about his imperfections.

It'd be nice if we could discuss what's going on in the media without unwarranted criticism based on the flawed assumption that, if we notice Romney's incompetence, we are supporting Obama.

Romney and Obama are both just puppets as far as I'm concerned. The way the media works is more interesting for me to look at than the candidates themselves. And I saw this thread as being about the media.

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posted August 06, 2012 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I should list O'Bombers gaffes. He makes tons of them that get no coverage.

1. His book said he was born in Nigeria
2. The private sector is doing fine
3. He pronounced Navy Corpsman --wrong

on and on and on and on and on

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posted August 06, 2012 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's going on in the media is a full court press to cover O'Bomber's ass. That way O'Bomber's Kool-Aid swilling supporters never hear or see a discouraging word about their little Marxist Messiah...except for perhaps...here.

On the other hand, there's a full court press by the media to plant a false narrative about Romney in the minds of voters. The "alleged" gaffes being only one prong of the media attack on Romney which runs 86% negative reporting on Romney.

Imagine our surprise to find you here repeating the very same...blither, blather, bloviation and bullshiiit.

86 Percent of Romney Coverage Is Negative: Are Most Media Outlets Biased in Favor of Obama?
August 03, 2012

WASHINGTONTIMES.COM reports:

Media bias has gone from bad to ridiculous. During Mitt Romney's overseas visit earlier this week, 86 percent of the coverage on ABC, CBS and NBC "emphasized Romney's perceived gaffes," according to a content analysis of 21 major news stories by the Media Research Center, which also compared Mr. Romney's trip to a similar excursion made by President Obama in 2008.

Study: Media Coverage of Romney's International Trip 86% Negative
by Warner Todd Huston
4 Aug 2012


Now that Mitt Romney's trip abroad has wound down, an assessment of its coverage can be made, and the final word is negativity. The Old Media was mostly negative about Romney's trip. This is quite a contrast to the glowing coverage it gave to Obama's pre-election trip abroad in 2008.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/04/Old-Media-Mostly-Negative-on-Romney-Europe-Trip-100-Positive-on-Obama-s-2008-Trip

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posted August 06, 2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and the washington times is NOT MSM? since when?

the fact that it is a murdoch rag explains its bias, but it is very much a PART of the media it professes to criticize here.

@faith, yes, it gets excrutiatingly difficult to DISCUSS anything in here without the stock name-calling, belittling replies.

i have only heard about romney's trip from the radioheads, left and right. i am still looking for a pundit with real perspective!

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posted August 06, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure that the naysayers will deny it all, but what the hell I posted links anyway.

The bust was not a gift. It was a loan and was scheduled to be returned to the United Kingdom. Coming from someone who lived there during the return of this supposed "gift", no one was upset or even cared aside from people who need to stir up drama. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/is-the-churchill-bust-controversy-a-total-bust/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/07/the-best-of-romneyshambles/260393/

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/daragh-mcdowell-romneyshambles-shows-true-colours-3189908.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/romneyshambles-mitt-begins-his-trip-with-a-swipe-at-london-7979707.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9432463/Romneyshambles-Democrats-seize-on-Mitt-Romneys-gaffes.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07/26/romneyshambles-mitts-uk-trip-overshadowed-by-olympic-gaffe_n_1705598.html

*Ugh, there seems to be a glitch.

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posted August 06, 2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, no one cares. Check!

"Nile Gardiner director of Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom had this to say:

Obama’s surprise decision to send Churchill home is both wrong-headed and crassly insensitive towards America’s closest ally, coming at a time when nearly 9,000 British troops are fighting alongside their American counterparts in Afghanistan. With good reason, there are growing doubts in the UK over the new President’s commitment to the Special Relationship. The President has never even mentioned the Anglo-American alliance in a major policy speech, and has little affinity for Britain.

The Special Relationship is vital to American and British interests on many levels, from military, diplomatic, and intelligence cooperation to transatlantic trading ties. If President Obama does not invest in its preservation, the end result will be a weaker United States that is less able to stand up to terrorism and tyranny, and project power and influence on the world stage."


Obama Disses Brits, Will Media Miss?
By Warner Todd Huston
February 15, 2009

Barack Obama loves Lincoln. It seems not a day goes by that he isn't quoting the Civil War icon or comparing himself to that great man. But it looks like we are finding one great leader that Barack Obama doesn't like so much: Winston Churchill.

It appears that President Obama is dissing the Brit's most famous and stalwart leader by quickly returning the most famous bust of the man loaned to this country by the United Kingdom in the aftermath of 9//11. The return of the bust of Churchill flustered the British government because they didn't ask for it to be returned. Our best ally was nonplussed and even quickly told Obama he could keep it in the Oval Office where Bush had displayed the piece of art. Obama told them no thanks which made the Brits even more amazed.

So, Barack Obama, the man that would "fix" our "bad image" with the rest of the world, we were told by the media, has just dissed Churchill after only a month in office? And, according to one of the only stories I can find on this incident, the British government has been made nervous about the relationship between England and the U.S. because of the casual return of their generously loaned Churchill bust.

I mean, this abrupt return of the Churchill statue is sort of odd. Would it have hurt anything to keep the thing? After all, it made the Brits feel good and American's have a connection to Churchill, too (besides WWII). His mother was from our shores after all.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2009/02/15/obama-disses-brits-will-media-miss


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posted August 06, 2012 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The answer to the original question is yes. It was reported. Not super loudly, but it was there for anyone paying attention.

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posted August 06, 2012 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from the british embassy(and delilah's first link)
In February 2009, the British Embassy told The Telegraph that the bust “sits in the palatial residence of ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald … a British Embassy spokesman said: ‘The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W. Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship. It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the president was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009.

The new president has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the ambassador’s residence

good call Delilah, i doubt your links were opened by those who know everything so have no need of information

from the same story

Like a plot twist in a sitcom, IT TURNS OUT THERE ARE TWO CHURCHILL BUSTS!!!!!

The one in the White House residence was a gift to the White House from the British Embassy during the Johnson administration.

The other one was loaned to President George W. Bush by British Prime Minister Tony Blair. (the one that was returned, as was scheduled even before obama took over the white house).

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posted August 06, 2012 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was not a diss to return a bust that was on loan from a former prime minister to a former president. Obama's choice not to extend it is as far as the story goes and is not wrong-headed. When countries and museums loan artifacts they have to be returned at some point. Having a bust in the White House is not the same as having an embassy in our country. It has no significance whatsoever and symbolism is weak when measured against working with the British government.

Lol. Quoting someone from the Margaret Thatcher center for freedom is a farce. She was and still is one of the most hated figures in British history. It's a joke that "freedom" is even in the same line as her name. Try looking up the mess she created during her time in office, i.e. her blunders with British allies, not to mention colonialism was still alive and well under her treacherous reign, and it was the first time since the Great Depression that the U.K. had experienced a recession. Women had less rights and support for the whole decade that Thatcher was prime minister; hardly any could find full-time employment.

Any way, returning something that never belonged to us is not a slap in the face. Lol. It's so ridiculous how something that has no real sustenance is being blown out of proportion. Honestly, it's so laughable. This is what you've chosen to take issue with? LMAO.

Hmm... Yes. I see. You have no real argument and have chosen to take snippets from people, who British citizens shun, with the mistaken belief that their idiotic views are sufficient enough to support an exaggeration. It "made the Brits feel good" for us to have the bust of Churchill? Lol. I don't know what Brits you're thinking about, but not one that you stop on the street would say that they gave a sh!t about it. There are bigger things to worry about rather than hardened clay. Oh, and the British generally love President Obama in comparison to a whole list of past presidents and hopefuls.

So what if he admires Lincoln. Big deal. Republicans constantly express their admiration for Reagan and ignore the major issues with his presidency. But I see that your only interest is to find half-thought out articles to support your severely limited views. I have no doubt that you didn't bother to read the linked articles because you think that the more you repeat something, no matter how grossly wrong, the more your convictions will hold up. They don't, which is why you'll likely say the same thing or rather quote articles because you are incapable of analysation and speaking for yourself. You wanted proof and I presented it to you.

And before you lable me as a democrat or demoscat (how clever of you), I'm a registered independent who favors President OBAMA. I would call him on his mistakes just as much as Romeny, Palin, Bush, and Reagan, but his sh!t pile is nothhing in comparison to the mountains they have created.

Do you have anything to say about the fact that Romeny held a fundraiser while in London with American bankers? Or would you like to completely ignore it and continue to point the finger at the President?

Oh, and President Obama's gaffes were hugely blown out of proportion when they were current. Did he backtrack? Hell no. He acknowledged his mistakes.

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posted August 06, 2012 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Kat for pointing out that there are two busts.

You have to admit that it is comical. Lol.

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jwhop has already answered the news of romney's FOREIGN FUND RAISING by saying such practices are illegal...and implying that it must therefore be a lie.

seems he doesn't realize the extent to which campaign moneygrubbing has been deregulated. more like won't EVER admit that is exactly what romney did, (even though a few weeks ago he didn't much like romney himself) raise money in europe and israel for his AMERICAN campaign.

i lived in england awhile too, delilah. the reagan worshippers here would never believe that maggie's Special Relationship with him was one of the more laughed at ingredients in her "reign"...

in fact for all the posturing about america being the greatest thing since world maps, the ONLY republican president since reagan who was not considered a laughingstock by the brits was pappy bush.

but brits don't really expect yankees to understand what makes any of obama's "gaffes" forgiveable, while mitt has already earned the nickname "mitt the twit" while picking up his foreign bucks.

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posted August 06, 2012 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't know that he/she had addressed it. Isn't it funny how anything in the media that doesn't support the Republican party is a lie? Oh well. My only wish is that our government would prosecute these bankers and politicians, granted there won't be many left.

This "better-than-not-having-anyone" stance will be the death of the Republican party. It's not that hard to find viable candidates, at least it wouldn't be if the far right would stop persecuting them and if they had stronger spines.

*Sighs* And none of them want to address the fact that Reagan sold weapons to Osama Bin Laden, was a part of the witch-hunt for communists in the early part of his political career (not something to be proud of if you know history), and the lack of financial help given to minority farmers while he was president. Yes, he was an upstanding president.

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posted August 06, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No 2 ways about it, O'Bomber dissed Churchill and embarrassed the British government. This led to doubts among the British about O'Bomber's commitment to the American/British relationship.

Of course, this thread is about gaffes and O'Bomber is way ahead in the gaffe department.

He gave the Queen a gift...of his collected speeches yet. Wow, the narcissistic gaffer O'Bomber at his best!

And he gave the British PM a movie or movies in the wrong format..American..which the PM couldn't play.

Throw in the gaffe about Austrians speaking Austrian..not German..and pulling the rug out from under Poland and the Czechs by withdrawing the US missile shield...already agreed to and wow...on the anniversary of the Soviet Union invasion of Poland...and O'Bomber is way ahead of Romney in the gaffe race.

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posted August 06, 2012 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you find enough British citizens who do not work for the right wing media to support your claim of an alleged diss? No.

This thread is about Romeny's gaffes overseas. Hence the title.

He presented her with more than just speeches. Who knows, she might be a big fan of his speeches. You and I do not know. It's not narcissistic either. Many leaders have done so in the past and will continue to, especially those seeking world peace. I will admit that unless a poet or fictional writer gifts their work to someone, it's rather boring.

They have universal dvd players in the U.K. And there is a software that you can download that will allow you to watch dvds from different regions. Not only that, but there are directions all over the internet that tell you how to get around the regional block.

The Austiran thing is an easy mistake and doesn't hold weight. Everyone puts their foot in their mouths from time to time. George W. Bush did it everytime his mouth opened.

President Obama didn't pull the rug out from Poland and the Czech Republic. They're still there. It wasn't his decision alone in removal of the missile shield and it was done as a part of NATO's slow reformation, which he is not the leader of. Also, it was a stupid idea that has wasted a ton of money. Didn't think that maybe it was symbolic as Poland is a strong country now and these aren't exactly the same Russians from World War II? But of course, big-mouthed politicians who don't even have the respect of their people cry fowl.

President Obama's gaffes have, so far, been understandable and forgiveable. He has yet to address our allies as if they were all third-world countries without an ounce of common sense. Yes, he has erred, but he is not out of touch with the world.

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Well, it's the silly season again. The silly season when O'Bomber supporters or supporters of the Socialist flavor of the day come out of the woodwork to convince us our eyes didn't see and our ears didn't hear what their Socialist candidate said or did.

It's comical really because there is absolutely no defense for what the Marxist Socialist Zero O'Bomber has said and done.

On the foreign front, O'Bomber has bowed to every Royal in the world..except for the Queen. Hell, if O'Bomber ever ran into the Burger King he'd bow to him too.

I know the egomanical narcissist O'Bomber thought the Queen would swoon when he presented her with a gift of his speeches. I mean the idiot Matthews at MSNBC gets a tingle in his leg when he hears his master O'Bomber's voice. But the Queen has heard real orators speak, orators who actually changed the world...Churchill, whom O'Bomber dissed, Thatcher and Ronald Reagan who worked together to put the Soviet Union on the ash heap of history..without firing a shot. So, I'm sure the Queen was underwhelmed by O'Bomber's gift of HIS collected speeches.

And, of course we're not supposed to believe our own eyes and ears when O'Bomber's mouthpieces tell us the Poles and Czechs weren't pis$ed when O'Bomber reneged on the ballistic missile shield negotiated with them by Bush. Yep, we're not supposed to believe our own eyes and ears but believe O'Bomber's mouthpieces who are spreading bullshiiit on the landscape.

Oh, and this is priceless. The Poles and Czechs don't need that missile shield anyway because those bad Russians...who invaded Poland are gone. Really? Gone? Really? Gee, I seem to remember that Putin was KGB..part of that bad Russian machine which invaded Poland. And, wasn't it Putin...from the former bad Soviet Union who sent Russian troops to invade part of Georgia...just recently. Again, don't believe your own eyes and ears, believe O'Bomber's mouthpieces instead.

But here's one of the biggest lies of all.

The US ballistic missile shield doesn't work anyway...so apparently O'Bomber did the Poles and Czechs a big favor by reneging on the agreement.

Yep, we're supposed to believe Putin..KGB moved heaven and earth to make sure O'Bomber didn't deploy that missile shield...because it doesn't work. Right! Check!

Yep, it's the silly season again and O'Bomber's mouthpieces are out in force to divert our attention from the facts that:

there's more Americans on Food Stamps than at any time in US history.

More Americans in poverty than at any time since the 1960s.

More Americans unemployed or underemployed than at any time since the Great Depression.

That unemployment is and has been above 8% for more than 40 straight months..longest since the Great Depression.

That Americans have lost $4500 in wealth under O'Bomber while O'Bomber has loaded up each family with more than $30,000 in additional national debt.

And that economic growth in the US is going backwards...down!

So, neither O'Bomber or his mouthpieces want to talk about their Marxist Messiah O'Bomber's utter failure as Prez.

They want to talk about Romney's supposed gaffes..without talking about O'Bomber's bigger gaffes.

It's not working!

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Well, it's the silly season again. The silly season when O'Bomber supporters or supporters of the Socialist flavor of the day come out of the woodwork to convince us our eyes didn't see and our ears didn't hear what their Socialist candidate said or did.

It's comical really because there is absolutely no defense for what the Marxist Socialist Zero O'Bomber has said and done.

On the foreign front, O'Bomber has bowed to every Royal in the world..except for the Queen. Hell, if O'Bomber ever ran into the Burger King he'd bow to him too.

I know the egomanical narcissist O'Bomber thought the Queen would swoon when he presented her with a gift of his speeches. I mean the idiot Matthews at MSNBC gets a tingle in his leg when he hears his master O'Bomber's voice. But the Queen has heard real orators speak, orators who actually changed the world...Churchill, whom O'Bomber dissed, Thatcher and Ronald Reagan who worked together to put the Soviet Union on the ash heap of history..without firing a shot. So, I'm sure the Queen was underwhelmed by O'Bomber's gift of HIS collected speeches.

And, of course we're not supposed to believe our own eyes and ears when O'Bomber's mouthpieces tell us the Poles and Czechs weren't pis$ed when O'Bomber reneged on the ballistic missile shield negotiated with them by Bush. Yep, we're not supposed to believe our own eyes and ears but believe O'Bomber's mouthpieces who are spreading bullshiiit on the landscape.

Oh, and this is priceless. The Poles and Czechs don't need that missile shield anyway because those bad Russians...who invaded Poland are gone. Really? Gone? Really? Gee, I seem to remember that Putin was KGB..part of that bad Russian machine which invaded Poland. And, wasn't it Putin...from the former bad Soviet Union who sent Russian troops to invade part of Georgia...just recently. Again, don't believe your own eyes and ears, believe O'Bomber's mouthpieces instead.

But here's one of the biggest lies of all.

The US ballistic missile shield doesn't work anyway...so apparently O'Bomber did the Poles and Czechs a big favor by reneging on the agreement.

Yep, we're supposed to believe Putin..KGB moved heaven and earth to make sure O'Bomber didn't deploy that missile shield...because it doesn't work. Right! Check!

Yep, it's the silly season again and O'Bomber's mouthpieces are out in force to divert our attention from the facts that:

there's more Americans on Food Stamps than at any time in US history.

More Americans in poverty than at any time since the 1960s.

More Americans unemployed or underemployed than at any time since the Great Depression.

That unemployment is and has been above 8% for more than 40 straight months..longest since the Great Depression.

That Americans have lost $4500 in wealth under O'Bomber while O'Bomber has loaded up each family with more than $30,000 in additional national debt.

And that economic growth in the US is going backwards...down!

So, neither O'Bomber or his mouthpieces want to talk about their Marxist Messiah O'Bomber's utter failure as Prez.

They want to talk about Romney's supposed gaffes..without talking about O'Bomber's bigger gaffes. But they sure don't want to talk about the O'Bomber economy.

It's not working!

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i thought virgo merc had a talent for LISTENING as well as critiquing. oh but i forgot, yours is combust your stubborn leo sun so PRIDE is the first filter, and any suggestion that you don't know what you're talking about must imply that someone is a SOCIALIST DEVIL.

once again you insist that someone who has lived in britain knows less about the british reactions/motives/ideas than you, the insular american.

delilah is not particularly an obama fan so basically your WHOLE PREMISE IS SH*T, jwhop. there are people here who would like to discuss these things in an ADULT manner, not like so many kids in a sandbox chucking sand.

grow up. this thread is about romney, not obama. you don't want to discuss it GO AWAY! simple.

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posted August 07, 2012 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the usual suspects need a refresher course on Mercury in Virgo and in particular the analytical side of this placement.

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katatonic
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posted August 07, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just for the record, jwhop, my mercury is conjunct yours. and mine is NOT overshadowed by my sun.

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posted August 07, 2012 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop,

We've seen far too much poor analysis to endorse the view that your Mercury allows you to excel in it.

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