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katatonic
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posted August 28, 2012 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-says-loud-hopes-blacks-latinos-wont-show-185558772.html

while boehner "hopes" latinos and blacks will not bother to vote this election, others are more candid about their attempts to discourage or at least not make it easy for these groups, who typically can't get time off work because they are on the lower end of the employment ladder, to get to the polls...

but it's all in the paranoid minds of the "left", according to their followers. ?

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katatonic
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posted August 28, 2012 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
while i wouldn't accuse boehner of "suppression", he is obviously aware that obama is leading in ALL voter categories except the white vote, and even there, the college-educated white vote is in favour of obama.

so the only hope apparently is that the blacks and latinos will live up to their "lazy moocher" caricature and not bother.

no racism here, madear.

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iQ
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posted August 28, 2012 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thumbs up to the vast majority of people who commented against Boehner's views.
GOP should take everyone along if they want to win. GOP's negativity towards minorities will ensure annihilation in future elections [2020 and beyond] when the demographics of USA change. I would love to see Oprah as their next Presidential Candidate

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Node
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posted August 29, 2012 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Less prominent Republicans have made essentially the same case in other terms. Doug Priesse, chair of the Franklin County, Ohio, Republican Party, indicated restrictions on early voting hours and voter ID laws were meant to keep blacks from voting. In an email sent earlier this month to The Columbus Dispatch's Darrel Rowland, Priesse said

"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine… Let’s be fair and reasonable."

Priesse is on the elections board and voted against keeping polls open in the weekends. In June, Pennsylvania House Republican leader Mike Turzai conceeded the point of voter ID is to help Republicans win when he said, "Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done."


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AcousticGod
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posted August 29, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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GOP should take everyone along if they want to win.

Rand Paul recently said the same thing.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80238.html

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katatonic
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posted August 29, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine… Let’s be fair and reasonable."

particularly revealing when you realize that ohio ALREADY HAD extra voting hours for the general public and reduced them...then when the fed tried to reverse that accused them of trying to restrict the military vote ...

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posted August 29, 2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“This election is about economics… These groups have been hit the hardest. They may not show up and vote for our candidate but I’d suggest to you they won’t show up and vote for the president either.”

Ummm, raw, naked truth here. Whassa matter? You leftists can't stand the truth?

"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine… Let’s be fair and reasonable."

More raw naked truth. Why in the hell should we contort, twist and distort our voting laws to accomodate anyone...or permit illegals, felons, the dead or other important but illegal demoscat voting blocks to vote?

For those who are elibible to vote:

GET OFF YOUR DEAD A$$ES, GET THE RIGHT VOTER IDENTIFICATION AND REGISTER TO VOTE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN AMERICA. ON ELECTION DAY, HAUL YOUR CARCASS DOWN TO THE RIGHT POLLING PLACE....AND VOTE. NOTHING TO IT. AND IF THAT'S TOO DAMNED HARD FOR YOU WUSSIES, DON'T VOTE.

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AcousticGod
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posted August 29, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only party advancing the idea that the laws should be "twisted and distorted" is the Republican party.

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jwhop
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posted August 29, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're the poster boy for Illogic acoustic.

It's demoscats who don't want voter id laws enforced.

It's demoscats who attempt to subvert the election process by registering illegal aliens, by attempts to prevent states from preventing those not elibible to vote from voting and by filing law suits to prevent military personnel from voting early...in the face of federal law what permits them to do so.

You're the "Wrong Way Corrigan" of this forum acoustic.

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posted August 29, 2012 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're the poster boy for Illogic acoustic.


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Node
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posted August 29, 2012 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's demoscats who attempt to subvert the election process by registering illegal aliens,

Prove it.

If there is any validity to this claim,
Prove it.

If not it is a lie.

And how many of these illegals actually voted??

How many?

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Node
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posted August 29, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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by attempts to prevent states from preventing those not elibible to vote from voting and by filing law suits to prevent military personnel from voting early...in the face of federal law what permits them to do so.

you should copy & paste the spin. Saves time. Plus, nullifies pesky grammar and spelling.

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AcousticGod
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posted August 30, 2012 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Jwhop, you're still not in a position to speak of other people being illogical.

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It's demoscats who don't want voter id laws enforced.

The promulgation of these laws has been at the hands of Republicans. Hence the "twisting and distorting" of voting laws. It's not just DemoCrats that don't want voter I.D. laws enforced.

Texas' voter ID law struck down in federal court

Texas no less!

    This is the third court ruling in the past three days out of the federal courts striking down Republican voter laws. A federal panel on Wednesday blocked a Florida registration measure from continuing in effect. South Carolina's strict photo ID law is on trial in front of another three-judge panel in the same federal courthouse. A court ruling in the South Carolina case is expected in time for the November election.

That whole article is devastating to Republicans that would rather wish that they're above reproach where fairness and equality are concerned. There are plenty more articles echoing the same facts.

As for the rest, I think Node's covered it with her call for proof.

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PixieJane
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posted August 30, 2012 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And then there's this that's gone viral:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAvwSp86hY

Don't skip, it ruins the effect.

And btw, his number for actual voter fraud was actually higher than I heard before.

It would be much harder for someone that old to get the ID as well (all kinds of physical problems are common and even the waiting at most DMVs would be a trial from many that age, and some have arthritis that even writing is near impossible). But if someone wants to say "even one false vote is too much" I can then, just for fun, switch to another topic dear to Republicans these days and watch them switch tracks instantly on how "it doesn't matter when it's statistically insignificant" as convenient to the issue at hand.

ETA: Btw, that vid reminded me of some of the things said by conservative darling Goldwater.

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jwhop
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posted August 30, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tea Party...American Taliban. Hey, up yours!

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posted August 30, 2012 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Btw, many Iranians said one election couldn't make things that bad because most Iranians would never allow it. The fundamentalists won and decades later they still hold the land in the terror. That, and other real world examples, makes me wonder if Republicans might not manage to pull the same stunt right here in America.

I know a few Republicans who want the party to return to how it was before 2010 and are talking voting Third Pary, not at all, or even Obama to send a message to the Party to regain its sanity (and I also know some Independents who voted for Republicans promising jobs and then became infuriated when they instead took to attacking women & gays and even mind boggling petty stuff like "affirming God" and something about a baseball game, IIRC, instead and said they won't be voting Republican in 2012), but many others are allowing for it. Actually, I know many many more Republicans not happy with the current direction, but they still see it as a lesser evil and also (like those Iranians decades ago) don't think the strong fundamentalist elements can actually assert themselves so powerfully. I hope they're right, but given what's happened in other countries it's entirely justified to be concerned.

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katatonic
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posted August 30, 2012 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for posting that pixie, i haven't the skills!

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