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jwhop
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posted August 29, 2012 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
August 29, 2012
We Will Win
By Bruce Walker

It is hard in the midst of battle for us to see, but we are winning. We ought to win the presidential election this year, and we must do everything in our power to make that happen, but the defeat of the left today is sure. The only way to lose this war is for us to quit, and we are not doing that.

Begin with the basics. Americans, overwhelmingly, are conservative. The latest Battleground Poll shows what every other Battleground Poll has shown for the last decade: Americans, by a huge majority, choose to call themselves "conservative," even when they can choose "moderate" or "unsure" as well as "liberal." Look at May 2012, or the twenty consecutive Battleground Poll reports dating back more than ten years in which conservatives have always been an overwhelming majority.

http://gspm.gwu.edu/files/questionnaire_and_results.pdf

The Gallup Poll findings are just as stark. The last poll in February 2012 showed that conservatives outnumber liberals in every state except Massachusetts, and the one in February 2011 showed that conservatives outnumbered liberals in every single state. The one in August 2010 showed that conservatives outnumbered liberals in every state except Rhode Island; in February 2010, again, conservatives outnumbered liberals in every single state. And yet again, back in August 2009, conservatives outnumbered liberals in every single state.

Every time the question is asked, by every polling group which asks the question, and however the question is worded, the answer is still the same: conservatives dramatically outnumber liberals. Even polls limited to particular states show that this is true, like in Washington State or New York State or Minnesota. This is a salient fact in American life which separates the United States from every other nation.

The political problem which conservatives have faced reflects an elitist leftist control of the nongovernmental institutions of American life. The establishment media, for example, is not an organ of government so much as government is an organ of the media. Remove the leftist media, and how long could leftism last in America? What has been happening over the last quarter-century is the inexorable rise of a media -- sometimes more akin to an underground press -- which reflects accurately the conservative values of America.

Moreover, the left has proven unable to stop this rise. Rush Limbaugh, of course, is the ultimate example in broadcast media, and the boycotts, the name-calling, the smearing of Rush have all failed miserably and shown other conservatives how toothless the censors of the left are in American society. Fox News is the most popular television news network, and the leftist media is losing audience rapidly. CNN, for example, now has the smallest number of viewers in ten years.

The left controls academia, but one consequence of that domination is that very little real critical thinking occurs on American campuses -- a phenomenon which is diminishing the value of leftist indoctrination passing as education. One result has been the rise of online colleges, which has raised the ire of leftists like Senator Harkin of Iowa. These are often for-profit academic institutions, which means that real market forces drive enrollment and curriculum decisions. These courses are not conservative; the courses, instead, tend to be practical and non-ideological. The education of children is also moving from public schools to home-schooling, which is rising exponentially.

What is true of the media and the educational system is true of entertainment as well: July 2012 data shows that movie audiences have dropped to a 25-year low. Television viewing in May 2012 was reported to have declined for the first time in twenty years. The tools of leftist manipulation of the conservative majority in America are losing their power.

In areas like book publishing, the brilliantly irreverent Regnery Press's PIG series (Politically Incorrect Guide) tweaks staid and dreary leftism with sharp and clear laser beams, and the Christian Science Monitor reported in late August of this year that conservative books were dramatically outselling liberal books.

But it is not so much that conservatives are gaining control of these media of influence as it is that the left is losing control of these levers. Without totalitarian domination of education, information, and entertainment, the left has only its own disciples, which in most states are about 18% of the population; even in Vermont, such people make for only 28%. Winning these battles -- the battle which we fight every day when we turn off the television set, pass up the lame tripe which masquerades as cinema today, sign up for nontraditional college learning, and buy conservative books -- and not quitting means winning the war.

There is a final and fatal nail in the coffin of leftism: it has no ideas, and it scarcely pretends to have ideas anymore. Listen, when you can bear it, to the drivel from the Obama campaign. What is true of this presidential campaign is true of the whole of leftism in our land. It is sterile, vapid, and boring. The recent exchange between Anderson Cooper and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the Newsweek editorial against Obama show just how sick even the flacks of the establishment have grown from the nausea of leftism.

We will win. Indeed, we cannot lose.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/we_will_win.html

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posted August 29, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info, as always
Listen up, Sheeple

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posted August 29, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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AcousticGod
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posted August 29, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a classic reason you guys don't understand much about politics. Virtually none of this analysis hits the mark. The problem isn't the free speech of what you've deemed "liberal" media (it's promoting candidates that won't win Independents, because they're too extreme). Pricey things like education, movies, and television are only declining due to standard market factors, not political ones. Liberals have no ideas? That's rich from the obstructionist party of the day. How many proposals by liberals have Conservatives shot down over the last few years? What's the record filibuster number at now?

This is the kind of thinking that gets you guys in trouble around here. You listen to nonsense like this, and just believe it instead of utilizing your own brains to analyze things.

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posted August 29, 2012 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, yes, it is so obvious that conservatives outnumber liberals in, say, california...where even millions couldn't buy a conservative seat last election...

face it bud, it is a matter of time, and your time is past...this is the definition of conservative, harking to the past or at least to preventing change...

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posted August 29, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know it's a sore spot for leftists that only about 12% of Americans agree with them and only about 23% are even Liberals...while 60% identify themselves as conservative.

In the meantime the sand is shifting out from under the feet of the leftist press and hardly anyone believes a word they say. Fox News is the most trusted News Network in America and it's all slipping away. Poor babies.

And after the debacle of the drooling press failing to do their jobs...they're supposed to be...and claim to be America's "watch dogs" and hell, they didn't even bark at O'Bomber...Americans are even more fed up with them and even more disinclined to listen to them.

Their viewing audiences are down. Their subscriptions are down, their revenues are down in direct proportion to their lying...which is UP.

And what are those Marxist professors at those leftist universities going to do when conservative parents tell them...UP YOURS? I'm not paying you to indoctrinate little Johnny and Sally with your leftist bullshiit.

Another leftist dominated industry...entertainment, is already getting whacked too. Movie revenues are way down. Every time they roll out a leftist piece of crap, it bombs. Conservative theme films and books go right to the top.

Leftists haven't had an idea that didn't come straight out of the ass of Karl Marx 150 years ago...and it shows. It's nothing but shopworn drivel.

Endgame! And, it's just a matter of time.

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posted August 29, 2012 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes we need more "perils of pauline"...they sell like hotcakes in hard times...but those who DO have movie money are spending more of it on the bourne legacy than on the anti-obama infomercial.

you talk about the decimation of industries as if it makes you proud. a true, fine american who cares about the economy would not be rubbing his hands in glee over such.

the conservatives have enjoyed a good run, jwhop, but unfortunately all such runs come to an end. what people say to pollsters is no indication of what is to come.

the only person i know who's ever been asked to answer a poll told a bunch of absurd answers to them. i'm sure he was not completely unique.

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posted August 29, 2012 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know it's a sore spot for leftists that only about 12% of Americans agree with them and only about 23% are even Liberals...while 60% identify themselves as conservative.


Change Liberals/ Leftists name to Sheeple

ROLFL

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posted August 29, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm quite happy to see the lying press get what they deserve. They've earned it. Same with Hollywood, they've earned it too. Same with Universities preaching Marxist drivel. They've all earned it.

They're deadwood that needs to be cut out to make room for new productive growth.

Maybe they can get new jobs doing something they're qualified for. Washing dishes comes to mind. Or, maybe they should do us all a favor and emigrate. Cuba or North Korea sounds about right to me. They can practice their Marxist horseshiiit there and be happy.

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posted August 29, 2012 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I maintain my assertions. All of this supposed argument is nonsense. It's the same kind of wishful thinking we've come to expect from these two. If it makes no logical sense, then you can bet they'll be propping it up as an excuse for something.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another pathetic argumnet from you acoustic...with nothing to back it up.

On the other hand, newpapers are in the toilet..like I said. Hollywood movies are down in gross revenues...like I said.

Leftist cable and broadcast news networks are down in viewers..big time...like I said

In fact, I've posted examples for everything I've said AND you've just been flapping your gums and looking silly to rational people.

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posted August 29, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Another pathetic argumnet from you acoustic...with nothing to back it up.

On the other hand, newpapers are in the toilet..like I said. Hollywood movies are down in gross revenues...like I said.

Leftist cable and broadcast news networks are down in viewers..big time...like I said

In fact, I've posted examples for everything I've said AND you've just been flapping your gums and looking silly to rational people.


You must be a saint with all your patience, Jwhop. I guess God made you to be the Ambassador to Sheeple

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posted August 30, 2012 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sheeple,

everytime I read that word, I laugh

Anyone recall rainbow using the word like a wet noodle to beat jwhop up?

Not a mean bone in her body but she was hilarious when wound up on politics. Fond memories, sheeple indeed.

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posted August 30, 2012 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably best to pass on Sainthood.
Saint Hop just don't have the right zing Ami.

Whereever you are rainbow...

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posted August 30, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The "back up" for this argument is everywhere. It's common sense. For the opinion on why Republicans aren't winning, I got that straight from a Republican from Florida: Joe Scarborough.

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On the other hand, newpapers are in the toilet..like I said. Hollywood movies are down in gross revenues...like I said.

Now you're taking credit for the things your article said? Ami was trying to make WHO out as sheeple?

Newspapers, as has been the case since 2005 or whenever you started your dumb debate, has been losing money for business reasons. Namely, people have been moving to the internet for news. That has been the case for some time now. It's so indisputable and common sense asking for "back up" on it is a ridiculous proposition.

Movie industry is down only as a reflection of the larger economy. This fact is also obvious for anyone capable of simple thinking.

Non-Fox cable news outlets are losing ground. That's something that is easily measured. What's not easily measured is whether it has anything to do with politics. As "Leftists" continue to be better informed than "Rightists" I don't see the drop in viewership as anything inherently politically meaningful. Network news, which you also believe to be "leftist" continues to pull better ratings than Fox, and it's too boring for most people to watch.

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In fact, I've posted examples for everything I've said AND you've just been flapping your gums and looking silly to rational people.

That's funny, because "rational" people would take issue with your obvious misfires that I've listed.

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posted August 30, 2012 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Probably best to pass on Sainthood.
Saint Hop just don't have the right zing Ami.

Whereever you are rainbow...



OK
No saint. Stick with Ambassador

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posted August 30, 2012 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
max planck once said that new scientific theories are not accepted because people are "convinced" by explanation or argument, but because the people who can't accept them eventually die off.

true of most progress, really. some just want to hold back the tides of time, but they don't live forever..

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posted August 31, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"true of most progress, really. some just want to hold back the tides of time, but they don't live forever.."..katatonic

How true katatonic.

Karl Marx is dead and buried...for more than 100 years now. At best, Marx was a 5th rate thinker. Do all your Marxist friends a favor, do O'Bomber a favor. Tell them.

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posted August 31, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
marx doesn't interest me, jwhop, you're the one who seems obsessed with him.

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posted August 31, 2012 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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marx doesn't interest me, jwhop, you're the one who seems obsessed with him.


No American with any sense wants O'Bomber with his Marxist ideas. That leaves...................................

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posted August 31, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no american with any sense thinks obama is a marxist, ami. back to GO...

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posted August 31, 2012 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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no american with any sense thinks obama is a marxist, ami. back to GO...

If you say anything about the O'Bomber regime, you will need the "Get Out of Jail Free" Card


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posted August 31, 2012 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why is it now a crime to speak about the president? not that i've heard of, and not if this forum is anything to go by.

if obama were the totalitarian marxist you try to paint him, YOU would be in siberia about now...and jwhop would have been there years ago.

all those who "pulled in their horns" when they saw obama coming and are now complaining about how his policies don't work, well, thanks for your faith in the american people and your obvious desire to see the economy thrive only when republicans are running the show.

and for all the businesspeople in the republican party who swear THEY built their own, how about repaying the millions of federal loans, grants and credits that helped you get to the convention?

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