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jwhop
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posted August 29, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know the demoscat party has moved radically left when solid Democrats are urging other Democrats to leave the demoscat party of Barack Hussein O'Bomber.

It's become the party of radical extremist leftists.

August 28, 2012
Ex-Obama ally Artur Davis uses convention speech to ask other Democrats to leave party too


TAMPA, Fla. — Ex-Obama ally Artur Davis — the former Democratic congressman from Alabama who in 2008 gave a speech in support of Barack Obama at the Democratic convention, but has since renounced him — says he feels at home with the Republican Party and is encouraging others to leave the Democratic Party too.

“Thank you for welcoming me where I belong,” Davis told delegates who gave him roaring applause throughout his Tuesday night primetime speech at the Republican National Convention.

He used his speech to encourage “Democrats and independents whose minds are open to argument” to “listen closely to the Democratic Party that will gather in Charlotte and ask yourself if you ever hear your voice in the clamor.”

“Ask yourself if these Democrats still speak for you,” Davis said.

“Now, America is a land of second chances,” Davis said, “and I gather you have room for the estimated 6 million of us who know we got it wrong in 2008 and who want to fix it.”

Davis said Americans supported Obama is 2008 because “no candidate had ever spoken so beautifully,” but said “dreams meet daybreak.”

“Maybe the Hollywood stars and the glamour blinded us a little: you thought it was the glare, some of us thought it was a halo,” Davis said.

He criticized Obama for gutting the “welfare work requirement” and knocked him for not reaching across the aisle as he “rammed through a health-care bill that took over one-sixth of our economy.”

“Let’s put the poetry aside,” Davis said, “let’s suspend the hype, let’s come down to earth and start creating jobs again.”
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/28/ex-obama-ally-a rtur-davis-uses-convention-speech-to-ask-other-democrats-to-leave-party-too/

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posted August 29, 2012 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was G-R-E-A T


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI

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posted August 30, 2012 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep. Lots of Democrats have already left the party and become Republicans or Independents. Admittedly Republicans have left the Republican Party and become Independents too.

But, you'd be hard pressed to find many Republicans who have left the Republican Party to join the current radical leftist demoscat party.

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posted August 31, 2012 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The usual suspects don't wanna talk about that Ami!

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posted August 31, 2012 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
The usual suspects don't wanna talk about that Ami!


Of course not, Jwhop but we have the usual suspects on the run. Do you notice they don't swagger as much as they used to? Go Jwhop. Go Ami

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posted August 31, 2012 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Ami, O'Bomber's lost his Mojo and the usual suspects can't find it anywhere!

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posted August 31, 2012 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah Ami, O'Bomber's lost his Mojo and the usual suspects can't find it anywhere!


*Slaps self silly*

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posted August 31, 2012 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the silliness was there before you ever started slapping. If people are on the run from the two of you, it's just to rejoin the realm of sanity.

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posted August 31, 2012 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think the silliness was there before you ever started slapping. If people are on the run from the two of you, it's just to rejoin the realm of sanity.


People ROLFL

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posted August 31, 2012 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha There outta be a law against someone as divorced from reality as you even uttering the word sanity acoustic.

Or, maybe like a lot of other words, you just don't know what it means.

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posted September 02, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Radicals push members out on a wing

Date July 14, 2012

Nick O'Malley

It took one of the United States' most prominent conservative judges just a handful of words to sum up the uneasiness some on the right have been feeling of late.

"I've become less conservative since the Republican Party started becoming goofy," said Justice Richard Posner in a radio interview last week.

Posner is no lightweight and no liberal. He was appointed to the appeals court by President Ronald Reagan and is considered by The Journal of Legal Studies to be the most cited legal scholar of the 20th century.

Posner was prompted to speak out after virulent attacks by conservatives on the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, also a conservative whose recent decision upheld the central plank of Barack Obama's healthcare package.
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"What would you do if you were Roberts? All the sudden you find out that the people you thought were your friends have turned against you, they despise you, they mistreat you, they leak to the press," Posner said.

"What do you do? Do you become more conservative? Or do you say, 'What am I doing with this crowd of lunatics?'"

It is a question being asked more frequently.

The economist Bruce Bartlett began his political career working for the Republican Ron Paul in 1976. He went on to work for President Reagan, helping to shape the economic reforms that became known as Reaganomics. He later worked for George W. Bush and has been a member of prominent conservative think tanks.

In a February appearance on The Daily Show, Bartlett, said, "Frankly one of our political parties is insane, and we all know which one it is."

Today when you discuss the Republican Party with him he seems in turn baffled, outraged and hopeless.

"They have descended from the realm of reasonableness that was the mark of conservatism," he says.

"They dream of anarchy, of ending government."

Bartlett argues a new radical right in the Republican Party will oppose anything - even good conservative policy - if Democrats agree to it.

Driven by Bartlett's friend Grover Norquist, the founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform, Republican members of Congress are urged - or bullied - into signing a pledge to support endless tax cuts.

"This mantra of cutting taxes in any circumstances, rather than setting policy in response to economic realities, is more akin to religious belief than sound policy-making," Bartlett says.

"And I don't think it is a coincidence that the Republicans have become the party of religious fundamentalism," he says, arguing that once you have accepted a set of ideas that are founded in belief rather than reason - such as in one's religious life - it is easier to transpose similar thinking to other politics.

This is why, he says, many in the new right believe ideas that seem preposterous to those who live outside its circles.

"In a recent poll only 31 per cent of Republicans believed Barack Obama was born in the United States. Who are the others? They are either stupid or crazy."

These others, he says, get their news entirely from right wing media, which magnifies their dislocation from the real world.

Anyone within the party who challenges the dogma is ostracized, he says.

"It's like the Middle Ages where people were jailed for saying the Earth revolved around the sun."

Bartlett's own ostracism dates back to 2005 when he was sacked by the National Center for Policy Analysis for his criticism of George W. Bush.

David Frum, the Bush speech-writer who gave us the term "axis of evil" in the 2002 State of the Union address was forced out of the conservative think tank The American Enterprise Institute in 2010 after he dared challenge the campaign against President Obama's healthcare reforms.

It was not that he entirely supported "Obamacare", just he thought the blanket opposition was poor politics, and improving America's healthcare system was a goal noble enough to warrant some compromise.

Writing in New York Magazine last year, Frum explained, "I've been a Republican all my adult life. I have worked on the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal, at Forbes magazine, at the Manhattan and American Enterprise Institutes …

"I believe in free markets, low taxes, reasonable regulation, and limited government … But as I contemplate my party and my movement in 2011, I see things I simply cannot support."

He wrote that he left the party machine thinking, "I want no more part of this cycle of revenge".

Unlike Bartlett, who says the leaders of the new populism are driven by self-interest and cynicism, Frum says many of them believe their own angry message.

"Some of the smartest and most sophisticated people I know - canny investors, erudite authors - sincerely and passionately believe that President Barack Obama has gone far beyond conventional American liberalism and is willfully and relentlessly driving the United States down the road to socialism," he writes.

"No counter evidence will dissuade them from this belief: not record-high corporate profits, not almost 500,000 job losses in the public sector, not the lowest tax rates since the Truman administration.

"The billionaires [funding the party] do exist, and some do indeed attempt to influence the political process … Yet, for the most part, these Republican billionaires are not acting cynically. They watch Fox News too, and they're gripped by the same apocalyptic fears as the Republican base."

Bartlett believes the drive towards populism can be traced partly to the Bush strategist (and Romney fund-raiser) Karl Rove, who realized it was easier to outrage the core of your political base to make them more likely to turn out on polling day than it was to broaden it.

"How do you do that? … by scaring the **** out of stupid people."

The conservative journalist and former paratrooper Michael Fumento wrote his treatise against what he calls the new right for Salon.com in May.

He described how after writing that global warming was real (while stating he did not believe there was an economically viable response) he was likened to the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, as well as Charles Manson and Fidel Castro in a series of billboards paid for by a conservative think tank he had done work for, the Heartland Institute.

"I … founded a conservative college newspaper, held positions in the Reagan administration and at several conservative think tanks, and published five books that conservatives applauded," he wrote.

"I've written for umpteen major conservative publications - National Review, the Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal and Forbes, among them.

"But no longer. That was the old right. The last thing hysteria promoters want is calm, reasoned argument backed by facts. And I'm horrified that these people have co-opted the name "conservative" to scream their messages of hate and anger."

Fumento fulminates against both the voice and the message of the new right. He laments that Mitt Romney allowed a question suggesting President Obama should be tried for treason to pass unchallenged at a town hall meeting.

He castigates the Florida Republican Allen West for saying that he estimated there were "71 to 78" Democrats in Congress who were members of the Communist Party. (Joe McCarthy claimed to know of only 57.)

And he rails at the recently deceased blogger and new right hero Andrew Breitbart, who was caught on camera in February bellowing for a minute and a half at peaceful protesters, "You're freaks and animals! Stop raping people! Stop raping people! You freak! You filthy freaks! You filthy, filthy, filthy raping, murdering freaks!"

Fumento argues true conservative ideology not only demands open debate but civil debate.

"Ever-consummate gentlemen like Buckley and Ronald Reagan would have been mortified by such behavior as Breitbart's - or West's or Heartland's," he writes.

Speaking with the Herald Fumento says such abuse "prevents people from sitting down together and negotiating, and you cannot have a democracy without that process".

The revolt against the new right has been echoed in the elected ranks of the Republican Party. In May, the former California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote in the Los Angeles Times "in the current climate, the extreme right wing of the party is targeting anyone who doesn't meet its strict criteria."

Senator Olympia Snowe criticized the new right earlier this year when she announced she would not seek re-election.

So far, Mitt Romney seems unwilling or unable to challenge the new orthodoxy, says Bartlett. He says Romney's record as governor of Massachusetts suggests he was a moderate conservative, but since he sought the presidency he challenged no positions of the populist right and recanted on many of his own.

Bartlett does not believe the November election will temper debate whatever the outcome. Indeed he fears an Obama victory could force the right to radicalize further, while a Romney victory could provoke the Democrats to adopt the same obstructionist tactics in Congress that has stalled government over this term, leading to even more years of economic stagnation.

"I don't believe our political system can stand that," he says.

"Us public policy analysts aren't meant to make comparisons with the 1930s, but it is beginning to look like the Weimar Republic.''

Fumento's view is equally bleak, though he looks to the Bible for analogy.

"If King Solomon was in the United States today and threatened to kill the baby, you know what the Democrats and Republicans would say?

"They'd say cut the little ******* in half."
http://www.smh.com.au/world/radicals-push-members-out-on-a-wing-20120713-2218k.html#ixzz25KcgyZxj


Good to know that my thoughts aren't out of line with a former Reaganite economic policy advisor.

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posted September 02, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hahaha There outta be a law against someone as divorced from reality as you even uttering the word sanity acoustic.

Or, maybe like a lot of other words, you just don't know what it means.


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posted September 02, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why Ronald Reagan Would Not Lead Today’s GOP

By BRUCE BARTLETT, The Fiscal Times
June 15, 2012

This week, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, heretofore a pillar of the Republican Party, both for his successful governing record and family history as son and brother of presidents, came in for criticism from members of his own party. Americans for Tax Reform president Grover Norquist, who enforces party discipline on tax issues, attacked him for being a “yokel off the bus” who was echoing Democratic talking points.

Bush’s sin? He suggested that the GOP had moved so far to the right and was so radically opposed to compromise of any kind that his father, George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan couldn’t be nominated by the party today. As Jeb Bush put it:

"Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party — and I don’t — as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground."

Conservatives might have ignored Bush’s apostasy except that this was the second time in two weeks that he had strayed from the reservation. On June 1, he told the House Budget Committee that he would be willing to accept a budget deal that cut spending $10 for every $1 of tax increase. The GOP party line is that taxes must not be increased by so much as a penny for any reason. Bush also denounced the so-called pledge against raising taxes that virtually every Republican has signed, noting that he never signed it.

Norquist said that Bush had insulted Mitt Romney because he has taken the pledge.
I think Jeb Bush has the better of this argument. It is indisputable that Reagan was vastly more moderate, at least in terms of how he actually governed, than today’s GOP. At the risk of being pedantic, here is a partial list of Reagan’s actions that would have him expelled for treason to conservative principles if he were running for president today.

• As a Hollywood actor, Reagan had been the head of a labor union, the Screen Actors Guild, and was proud of the higher pay and benefits he negotiated for his members. As president, he praised labor unions, saying, “Collective bargaining…has played a major role in America's economic miracle. Unions represent some of the freest institutions in this land. There are few finer examples of participatory democracy to be found anywhere.”

• Franklin D. Roosevelt was Reagan’s political hero and he voted for him for president 4 times. As president, he said, “F. D. R. was an American giant, a leader who shaped, inspired, and led our people through perilous times.”

• As governor of California, Reagan signed into law the largest state tax increase in history up to that time. It increased California taxes by a third, including an increase in the top income tax rate. There were other tax increases as well, which raised the top rate to 11 percent from 7 percent when he took office, a 57 percent increase.

• Also as governor, Reagan signed into law California’s first law permitting legal abortion – at the behest of his two most conservative advisers, Ed Meese and Lyn Nofziger. On other social issues as well, Gov. Reagan was far more progressive than his image. For example, he authorized conjugal visits for prisoners for the first time in the state and broadened environmental protection.

• In 1981, Reagan proposed a large tax cut. But when deficits became a problem, he supported tax increases and signed 11 of them into law. Among them was the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982, the largest peacetime tax increase in American history.

• Reagan supported an increase in the capital gains tax to 28 percent from 20 percent as part of the Tax Reform Act of 1986.

• In 1986, Reagan supported an immigration reform that gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens. During the 1984 election, Reagan said, “I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and who have lived here even though sometime back they may have entered illegally.”

• At the Reykjavik Summit with Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev in 1986, Reagan, to the horror of his advisers, offered to abolish nuclear weapons. To their relief, Gorbachev declined the offer.

For these reasons, Barack Obama has often praised Reagan. Meanwhile, Republican leaders admit that Reagan would clearly be out of step with his party and would not be able to secure its presidential nomination today. Jeb Bush is not the only one.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee: “Ronald Reagan would have a very difficult, if not impossible time being nominated in this atmosphere of the Republican Party.”

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA): Reagan “would never be elected today in my opinion.”
Other Republicans note Reagan’s commitment to compromise and working with Democrats to find solutions to pressing national problems.

Former chairman of the Republican National CommitteeHaley Barbour: “Let me make sure that one thing is clear about Ronald Reagan’s Republican Party: Reagan did not demand or expect everyone to agree with him on every issue. He wasn’t a purist. Some candidates are vying to be the most conservative candidate, and some voters are seeking purity in their choice. Well, in politics purity is a dead-dog loser. You need unity. And purity is the enemy of unity.”

Former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE): “Reagan wouldn't identify with this party. There's a streak of intolerance in the Republican Party today that scares people. Intolerance is a very dangerous thing in a society because it always leads to a tragic ending. Ronald Reagan was never driven by ideology. He was a conservative but he was a practical conservative. He wanted limited government but he used government and he used it many times. And he would work with the other party.”

I worked for Ronald Reagan, and believe he was a great president. But he was not a radical who made extravagant claims or sought to destroy government, as most Republicans appear willing to do today. He believed in conservative governance and getting things done, and if bending on principle was necessary, then so be it. I think Republicans would be better off emulating the real Ronald Reagan and less demanding rigid adherence to unachievable principles.

Read more at http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2012/06/15/Why-Ronald-Reagan-Would-Not-Lead-Todays-GOP.aspx#IOjUWKyhMZ5htvFe.99

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You'll excuse me acoustic if I'm unwilling to accept your definition of "conservative".

Posner is just another RINO establishment insider type like the others we're trying to get rid of...and are succeeding in doing in some cases. He's no "conservative" and I don't give a rat's ass who appointed him.

You think "Morning Joe Scarborough" is a "conservative".

And let's not forget that you're the far left radical extremist who thought a certified Liberal with impeccable Liberal credentials was a "conservative"..when he wrote.."Leaving the Left". Of course, to a far left extremist like you acoustic, anyone who isn't 100 light years to the left of Karl Marx IS a conservative.

So acoustic, do everyone a favor and don't venture opinions on subjects you don't know a damned thing about. You merely confirm that old axiom I told you about.

Neither you, the rest of the usual suspects, the drooling O'Bomber press, O'Bomber and his lying campaign staff or his lying PACs are going to frame the issues of this election.

Those issues are already framed and it's O'Bomber's economy and utter failures which are squarely inside that picture frame.

O'Bomber can duck, bob, weave, evade and point fingers and so can you usual suspects on his behalf. But in America, you get your job done or you get your ass fired.

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You attempting another smear campaign about sources, Jwhop?

People that can see will see. People that can't see probably have their heads in the sand.

Yes, I do believe both Posner and Scarborough and any other Conservative I've posted from is actually Conservative. One is allowed to choose their political philosophies, and you're not in a position to question nor disparage them. How exactly would you attempt to prove they're not Conservatives?

Labeling me inaccurately isn't going to help you. You can't make out a practical man as any sort of radical, especially considering all you've posted here over the years. I will continue to be the center-left guy I've always been.

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So acoustic, do everyone a favor and don't venture opinions on subjects you don't know a damned thing about. You merely confirm that old axiom I told you about.

There it is. The "shut-up" move. You like posting about an ex-Obama guy telling Democrats to leave the party, but when the tables are turned the fangs come out. Of course, I'll never see them as fangs. Toothless is more like it.

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O'Bomber can duck, bob, weave, evade and point fingers and so can you usual suspects on his behalf.

You mean YOU can duck, bob, weave, evade and try to steer the conversation into an area where you feel like you've got more control. Sorry bubba.

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yes sirree, split that baby in half so both mothers can be happy. NOT...you are so lost in your "right"ness you can't see beyond the end of your nose.

shut the opposition the hail up so you can crow about the first amendment for those who agree with you.

and by all means, distort the golden rule which jesus preached and do unto others as has been done unto you.

but remember, if everyone thinks that way, those whose freedom and lands and families have been taken from them are FAR more RIGHTEOUS in their anger. and that is getting to be more and more of the world; once upon a time it was just the indians, blacks and immigrants, but now we have EXPORTED our might-makes-right philosophy.

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posted September 03, 2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No way is Scarborough a conservative. Wake up and smell the espresso

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So we can now determine who is and who is not a Conservative?

No, I'm pretty certain Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman from Florida is indeed a Conservative. Like you, he quite enjoyed not only Romney picking Ryan, but also enjoyed Ryan's speech the other night despite how devoid of fact it was.

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Republican & Conservative generally go hand-in-hand

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posted September 03, 2012 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So we can now determine who is and who is not a Conservative?

No, I'm pretty certain Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman from Florida is indeed a Conservative. Like you, he quite enjoyed not only Romney picking Ryan, but also enjoyed Ryan's speech the other night despite how devoid of fact it was.


Nope. Actually, I saw him in person but he was boring

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like the way both ami and jwhop ignore all the info that tells them how "ronaldus magnus" would have gagged at what is being called conservative these days, and how interested he was in keeping the lines open to the other side of the political fence throughout his political career.

in fact he was successful as a politician because he was able to talk business without insulting or completely ignoring the ideas and VOTES represented by the other side.

he was a negotiator. a politician. the two are basically equivalent. unless of course you want a LEADER for ONE SEGMENT of the population only.

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posted September 03, 2012 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever you think of Reagan, he would never have done an O'Bomber on the economy

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he raised the capital gains tax and called it what it is, income tax pure and simple. he may have lowered the top margin rates but he also arranged for the elimination of a lot of loopholes.

he gave amnesty to immigrants who had been here for awhile and "grown roots"

he created many czars and depts for them to run, in fact grew government considerably

when he first came to office there was a "mild" recession which got worse when he lowered taxes.

he learned from his mistakes, whether tip o'neill forced his hand or not.

and let's not forget that it was reagan who passed the mandatory treatment act which we all have been paying for ever since, and which obamacare seeks to address and make more affordable for all of us. the cost of treating people gratis has been a HUGE part of the runaway escalation in medical costs.

and STILL not one conservative will admit that that MANDATE was a big part of the problem...no attempt was made to find a way to pay for it.

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AG:

I just read your O'Malley & Bartlett articles. Thanks for posting them.

I have yet to figure out how Norquist managed to gain such power. He says jump, and the answer is "How High sir"?

I've watched him in interview, seems a little mousy, retiring, that sort.

Finally, we are getting some blow back from old school conservatives. Better late than never....interesting they are speaking up at the 7th hour. [June and July respectively]

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