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juniperb
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posted September 15, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a very trying time for our country and we citizens. I know we are all horrified by recent events and we do need to talk about it.

I ask we all try to keep our tempers, refrain from insulting name calling , keep personal religious beliefs in Divine Diversity and try work through this together.

I know we all don`t agree on the political front and I am not censoring discussion but asking it be kept civil.

In appreciation for reading !

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Randall
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posted September 15, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seconded. We have several Knowflakes here who are Muslim (including a Mod), so everyone please be aware that it is extremists doing these heinous acts and not the entire religion of Islam...and thusly please show cultural sensitivity when posting.

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Faith
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posted September 15, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to add my heartfelt apologies as an American to the thousands of innocent Muslims our troops and drones have killed and harmed, because of wars based on lies. I apologize for not doing enough to stop these occupations.

My apologies to the people that statement offends.

My apologies to those same people for not laying out my arguments clearly enough, which might have the power to make you see things differently, IF I were more intelligent.

My apologies for not being humble enough to realize that I am just one small voice, and my apologies for not being grand enough to use that little voice better.

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katatonic
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posted September 16, 2012 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when someone, anyone, asks jwhop to be civil, then i will be back.

faith i don't think you need apologize for being frustrated by truculent old men who can't understand that their is a big world out there we have no right overrunning.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2012 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate that you call Jwhop that, Kat. I am so hungry for truth. Sometimes, I am so discouraged I could cry.

Sometimes, I am in utter despair. Jwhop will, often, be the one part of my day that lifts me up.

I won't allow you to call him that without my giving my opinion.
Love you, Jwhop

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juniperb
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posted September 16, 2012 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread isn`t intended for contention

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Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juni
Please talk to Kat, then, as she called Jwhop a name I did not like. I appreciate your fair moderation.Please use wisdom to all. Thank you

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juniperb
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posted September 16, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, I know you like the last word but it isn`t beneficial to anyone.
The post was ALL inclusive.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwwww shucks.....................................last word

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jwhop
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posted September 16, 2012 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see! A call for moderation by Juni turns into a political attack on the US by Faith and a personal attack by katatonic.

Perrrrrfect!

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Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Let's see! A call for moderation by Juni turns into a political attack on the US by Faith and a personal attack by katatonic.

Perrrrrfect!



Last, LAST word

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juniperb
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posted September 16, 2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Ami Anne
quote:
Awwwww shucks.....................................last word

Last, LAST word


quote:
Being a Mod means checking your ego at the door. You must put the good of LL over getting your last word in. You are here to stop conflicts, not contribute to them, As such, it is certainly no shame that one or more may not be cut out for that type of a job.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 16, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
[QUOTE][b]Being a Mod means checking your ego at the door. You must put the good of LL over getting your last word in. You are here to stop conflicts, not contribute to them, As such, it is certainly no shame that one or more may not be cut out for that type of a job.


Yes, that was for everyone, Juni dear


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juniperb
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posted September 16, 2012 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop,I am indeed trying to moderate. I don`t expect hugs & handshakes all around but I do desire consideration for the job at hand Some days are easier than others and when events of the day are ugly, it is a little more difficult to keep my own bias in check.

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jwhop
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posted September 16, 2012 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Understood Juni and it's an unenviable job too.

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juniperb
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posted September 16, 2012 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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shura
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posted September 16, 2012 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
This thread isn`t intended for contention


I trust it was not. And so my apologies ...

quote:
Being a Mod means checking your ego at the door. You must put the good of LL over getting your last word in. You are here to stop conflicts, not contribute to them, As such, it is certainly no shame that one or more may not be cut out for that type of a job.

Randall, very respectfully, your forum members will justifiably sink as low as you allow your forum moderators.

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Lei_Kuei
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posted September 16, 2012 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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charmainec
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posted September 17, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:

Ami Anne
[QUOTE][b]Being a Mod means checking your ego at the door. You must put the good of LL over getting your last word in. You are here to stop conflicts, not contribute to them,
As such, it is certainly no shame that one or more may not be cut out for that type of a job.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Being a mod does mean checking your Ego at the door.
It also means RESPECTING your fellow mods. Juni has made a reasonable request; no contention is needed. Yes, the new mod rules apply to ALL mods and just because this is GU, it doesn't mean anyone has a free pass to bad behavior.

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Faith
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posted September 17, 2012 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ROTFL Lei_Kuei

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jwhop
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posted September 17, 2012 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, perhaps I've misread the intent of Juni's request. I took it as a request to moderate the debate on the middle east so as not to offend the sensibilities of some of our members.

Some seem to have interpreted the request as a call for a moderator bash on this thread.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 17, 2012 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is in of itself a red herring, never mind the subsequent pronouncements contained herein.

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katatonic
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posted September 17, 2012 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
many apologies if describing jwhop as a "truculent old man" is seen as on a par with being told on a regular basis by that same person to, basically, stick it where the sun doesn't shine, lumping all here who disagree with him as, basically whiners and traitors, etc ad infinitum - was considered a "personal attack".

jwhop, you attack everyone who does not back you up here, with a very few exceptions. not their ideas or posts, but the people themselves.

so if it comes back on you sometimes, sorry. i do try not to get overly angry at what is, really, your problem not mine, but when i see calls for civility on a board where no one seems to think YOU need to be civil, and in fact you are far from it most days, well, you saw the result.

in any case, you are truculent, and "old" was just about your attitude, not your age. for the record i have never called you a fascist, a pig, or any other name, though i have taken issue with most of your posts and your insulting style plenty of times, as have others who would like to be able to discuss these things, however heatedly, without personal verbal assaults.

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juniperb
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posted September 17, 2012 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To all, thank you for taking the time to post your opinions here.

My post was indeed ALL inclusive.

I, too, understand it is all about perceptions on what we read posted here.

Fact of the matter is, rules are given to keep perceptions monitored and preventing them from becomming actions/behavior.

When rules are broken, so is the trust and foundation on which we are attempting to build.

No one breaking those rules are flipping their finger directly at me. I am but a mod with a job to do and not all are going to like how I provide that service. ..

Rather the finger is being flipped at the one who made them.

Take a deep breath and move forward as there`s an election comming at you

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jwhop
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posted September 17, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose a thread calling for moderation would be seen by some as the perfect venue for attacks. Hey, perception is everything. Right! Check!

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